My Personal Conspiracy Theory (Tinfoil Hat Time!)

[IdaBriggs]

I expect Barack Obama to become the Democratic Presidential Nominee.

Then I expect him to be assassinated before things get too far into -- probably before the convention, which will make room for some other candidate. The 'powers that be' will be suitably shocked -- SHOCKED I SAY! -- about it, but he'll be like a whole bunch of other Sainted Martyrs to the cause, while serving as a suitable object lesson about what this country isn't ready for (or so the media will tell us).

I don't think it will matter who the (weak) Democratic candidate is -- most likely the mud that has been slung will have sufficiently splattered Senator Clinton, so its probably not going to be her. "The voters didn't have time to get to know fill-in-the-blank'" will be the meme the media puts out, while Grandpa McCain is so-o-o-o dependable and likable and stuff. Like Reagan, you know.

:eyes:

But, with all of the sorrow, grief, hand-wringing, etc., I think it will be an easy shoo-in for any necessary election fraud to be within a 'plausible reported' thing for Senator McCain to become president.

Then I think McCain will pay back his handlers by ignoring all of the crimes they've committed, and it will continue to be 'business as usual' with all of the usual players. Gas prices will eventually stabilize at around $5 a gallon (for a while), and health care can be ignored some more, and our veterans can be ignored, while the march toward war with Iran goes on, guaranteeing some serious profits for those who have engineered the Perpetual War Machine that is our government at the moment.

Its just a theory. I hope its wrong. I hope the Democrat becomes President and jail time for all those who deserve it heralds the Return of the Rule of Law.

But I doubt it. :shrug:

[thereismore]

1. I also have thoughts like this, but I am hoping things will be different. nt

[mckeown1128]

5. Me too. NT

[me b zola]

42. This is why I believe

that despite conventional wisdom, Obama must choose a running mate who is to the left of him or someone who scares the powers-that-be even more than himself. Practically--in terms of "electability"--I don't know how he will walk this tight-rope, but I believe that he is a wise enough man to pull it off.

[mythyc]

2. Assassination predictions feed fear and induce nausea

[IdaBriggs]

4. I'm afraid, and nausea has definitely been induced.

With Republicans killing off thousands of people so easily, not just over in Iraq but here in the United States (health care/New Orleans come to mind REALLY fast), and the mysterious plane crashes of top Democratic Senators/unsolved white powder substances all over the Democratic leadership offices, it doesn't seem as far fetched as it should.

I want to be wrong. I want them to be 'play by the rules' folks who bow to the whims of the (uneducated?) masses.

But then I wake up, and reality is *really* depressing.

[TNOE]

21. I understand & I have those same fears

but please don't succumb to them - pray or think or hold Obama in White Light so that THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN. THERE IS A POWER GREATER THAN THE EVIL OF THIS ADMINISTRATION - FOCUS ON GOOD. PLEASE!

[mythyc]

24. no matter how small the dose, nihilism is a lethal pill to swallow

i know it's hard not to be cynical, but this too is self-defeating if over-indulged. Rather, while I believe skepticism, if moderated rather than imbalanced, is essential to the operations of any healthy, pragmatic mind, don't forget what our venerable elder yoda said:

“Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. I sense great fear in you.”

not messing with you. i believe with all my heart, a heart nourished by a lifetime of balancing studies of politics with studies of the humanities, i honestly trust that we shall overcome. at the most essential cruxes of our history we if not harmonize then at least mediate the two, and never has the opportunity been more ripe than now. keep the faith, and remember not everyone is effed. :)

[Sulawesi]

3. What does it say about how we feel about our nation, and race...

that we fear for the life of a politician because of his color. We need a leader like Barack Obama to lead, and by example (not by pressure), alleviate the burden of bigotry.

[IdaBriggs]

6. His color would be an EXCUSE. His *integrity* would be the real reason. nt

[blm]

38. I agree completely. Stirring up the racial aspect was deliberate to increase the chances of

an action intended to remove Obama physically from the race.

I also took a lock for it - though I am clear in saying that it is EXPECTED to happen by a certain camp - and NOT happening BY the camp's direction as some perceived.

[The Night Owl]

7. Well, at least you realize that your theory is of the kind which...

...comes from people who don tin foil.

[C_U_L8R]

8. Fear Uncertainty Doubt

tools of the enemy.
effective tools.

[cali]

9. Despicable. And sick. keep it to yourself.

This has no business being posted.

[IdaBriggs]

13. Its the elephant in the room, and no one can talk about it?

Because we celebrate Martin Luther King, Jr. day for what reason again? And Malcom X died from what? And John F. Kennedy died how? And Bobby Kennedy died how?

And the Republicans really want a Strong Democrat in office because that will be good for the country.

Yeah, right.... :sarcasm:

I am talking about FEAR. Address it, solve it, tell me why Barack Obama had no police protection a few months ago in Texas, and that the man is impervious to bullets/falling airplanes, and that there were good and reasonable answers for why planes keep falling out of the sky when Democratic Senators fly in them.

And keep your own ignorant opinions to yourself -- I bluntly stated this is a tin-foil hat thing, and I'm sticking by that.

[cali]

20. it's bushit fear mongering

the last time there was a serious assasination attempt it wasn't even on a dem. It was on Reagan, a quarter of century ago.

And listen up and listen good, dear: YOU don't tell me where and when I can post. And it's your stupid fear mongering crap that's ignorant. And pathetic.

[IdaBriggs]

30. There have been many attempts since, but they don't get reported anymore.

Isn't there a guy in jail who went after Clinton because of Jodi Foster?

Whatever.

But I'm sure your personal assurances that the white powder the Democratic leadership received wasn't *really* an assassination attempt, plus a whole bunch of plane crashes with Democratic Senators in them weren't *really* anything to worry about is going to assuage the worry.

Nothing to see here. Move along. Nothing to see.

[cali]

32. It was my Senator who was targeted, I certainly do take

that seriously. And yet, I know that we don't know the genesis of that anthrax. Don't put words in my mouth. If you had any decency, you wouldn't have.

I think fear mongering sucks, Ida. It's that simple. On a meta scale, I think it just feeds negative energy. And on a more specific basis, I think it does nothing but produce fear and anxiety.

YOU are fearmongering with your sad little tin foil crap.

[azmouse]

10. I don't think this at all.

The Secret Service knows all the candidates are targets for nutcases.

Obama will be kept safe. It's a matter of pride for the agents that protect our candidates.

[IdaBriggs]

14. So why didn't he have any police protection in Texas a bit ago? nt

[azmouse]

22. ??? Link?

I think you're off the deep end with this one. Obama will be fine.

[IdaBriggs]

25. Here's the link -- it was just 'stopped screening for guns' --

or something like that.

In Texas.

Don't know how I could have been so confused about him not getting appropriate protection.

In Texas.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4758826

[KittyWampus]

11. if anyone would have been useful as martyr, I'd say our current Resident. This is counterproductive

and I'd rather not feed this energy. Okay?

[knixphan]

12. Barack has already addressed the issue, Michelle also.

Their response, paraphrased:

'Worrying about Barack's safety is OUR JOB.

VOTING is yours.'

[IndependentDem]

15. does DU have a Conspiracy Theory section? n/t

[Muttocracy]

16. They don't have to go that far to stay in power

That could backfire on them anyway depending on the whims of the voters.

I'm more worried about a scare with Iran in late October, and the resurrection of the "don't change horses midstream" crap.

[Texas Hill Country]

17. what? seriously? people believe this?

[crankychatter]

18. I'm sorry Ida... you have to wait until AFTER an event to concoct a theory

it's a rule

[IdaBriggs]

19. LOL! Thanks! Call it REPUBLICAN INDUCED PARANOIA instead!

:rofl:

[crankychatter]

35. if I couldn't laugh I'd be crying ALL the time

yup

[sagetea]

23. That fear is with me also...

Dec. 9 2000, I had a very strange dream. In my dream we were told to go out of our kitchens and when we did we were in this building that stood tall and majestic with four windows, out of these windows one was natural events, earthquakes, hurricanes, etc. out of another window was famine, out of another was war, and the last was biblical events. As my family and I were mingling with the many other people, I saw Al Gore in white leather patten shoes, I walked up to him and said, "I'm sorry you didn't get the presidency, Al." He put his hand on my shoulder and replied, "My name, That is okay, I did more out of office than I could have done in office."

When I woke up the next morning, needless to say, I was very disturbed, three days later well you know what happened.....

I am not religious or spiritual, but that dream I had has haunted me, and I worry. As the time goes by, I am starting to like Obama more and more, not necessarily as a politician but as a man, that I think, no, that I know will make a great president. I am scared to like him as much as I like Gore, just for that simple reason of that stupid but prophetic dream.

[mythyc]

29. duping because this is important

no matter how small the dose, nihilism is a lethal pill to swallow

i know it's hard not to be cynical, but this too is self-defeating if over-indulged. Rather, while I believe skepticism, if moderated rather than imbalanced, is essential to the operations of any healthy, pragmatic mind, don't forget what our venerable elder yoda said:

“Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. I sense great fear in you.”

not messing with you. i believe with all my heart, a heart nourished by a lifetime of balancing studies of politics with studies of the humanities, i honestly trust that we shall overcome. at the most essential cruxes of our history we if not harmonize then at least mediate the two, and never has the opportunity been more ripe than now. keep the faith, and remember not everyone is effed. :)

[sagetea]

36. Thank you for that !

This is very good advise, I know that I have told myself this and my friends have too, but I guess it is the "100 times theory."
That is the first time I have repeated this dream so public, there is more that happened in the dream, that I am not going to write, because I don't want to be called a conspiracy freak, lol.
Thank you again.

[mythyc]

37. you're welcome =)

we all have crazy dreams. some of us have crazy reality, but keep the faith :thumbsup:

[AndyTiedye]

26. They Probably Won't Have To

This election is shaping up to be a repeat of 1972,
but a repeat of 1968 (which is what you are suggesting) could well be plan B.

[Hoof Hearted]

27. You have this kind of spare time, do you?

[Cali_Democrat]

28. I don't think talk of assassination will do DU any good

Barack is a liberal black person so we know that the chances are increased that the unthinkable happens. There are a lot of angry whites in this country that take offense to a person like Obama. I mean look at Kennedy and he wasn't even black.

[TBF]

33. The possiblity is always there and it scares me... I try not to think about it.

There's just nothing we can do about it so I focus on the things I can do something about. I trust that Michelle has hired damned good security - I think she is very pragmatic and would make this her priority.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

31. That's Not A Theory. That's An Exercise In Utter Insanity. Come Back Down To Earth When You Have

the chance, k?

[graycem]

34. Every group has

its crazies. They are all in danger, that's why they're all given secret service protection. Try to think more positively. You can let things cross your mind, as I'm sure we all have, without allowing them to set up shop. :)

[Jed Dilligan]

39. Aren't you also the person who wants marijuana kept illegal?

:crazy:

[IdaBriggs]

40. For minors, yes. nt

[Jed Dilligan]

41. Then you've revised your position since last we interacted, methinks.

[Raejeanowl]

43. This Is Not Helpful To Anyone n/t

[Cieran]

44. It NEEDS to be discussed...

so that we all understand the magnitude of the possibility and have a contingency plan to counter the inevitable assassination.

Don't forget, the 'black nobility' had JFK Jr assassinated because he was about to run for the open NY senate seat in 1999, which would have interfered with the Bilderberg-approved candidate: Hillary Clinton.