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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:22 PM
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Talking points Memo: "Nonprofit Women's Voices Women Vote stops suspicious N.C Robo Calls."
This is the group's official response, I guess . It sounds really sketchy to me. The fact that they are going to "stop" these calls does not provide me much comfort, since so many calls have already gone out.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/04/nonprofit_womens_voices_women.php
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:28 PM
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1. I am not suggesting that the Clinton campaign is involved.
But because I am easily amused, I did laugh at this:

"As for why the group's calls had used an apparently fictitious persona named "Lamont Williams," Johnson first said, "as far as I know, it is a recorded message." But when I asked why the group had used that name when there is no such person working with the group, she said she did not know why the name had been used."


AS FAR AS I KNOW?!!! LOL. ( sorry, like I said, I am easily amused)
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:37 PM
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3. Well, I am suggesting that the Clinton campaign is involved after reading this:
According to the web archive Maggie Williams, Clinton's campaign manager, was on the board last year.

http://web.archive.org/web/20070706100052/http://www.wvwv.org/aboutwvwv/index.cfm?id=3

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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:42 PM
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7. So maybe Lamont Williams is Maggie Williams nom de guerre
What a coincidence that she was on the board last year.:eyes:

I'm trying to imagine being proud of my candidate if I was a Hillary supporter. But then, I guess her genitalia trumps integrity.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:58 PM
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8. LOL! Lots of coincidences in this story:
Women's Voices Executive Director Joe Goode worked for Bill Clinton's election campaign in 1992 as a pollster; the group's website says he was intimately involved in "development and implementation of all polling and focus groups done for the presidential primary and general election campaigns" for Clinton.

Women's Voices board member John Podesta, former Chief of Staff for President Bill Clinton, donated $2,300 to Hillary Clinton on April 19, 2007, according to OpenSecrets.org. Podesta also donated $1,000 to Barack Obama in July 2004, but that was well before Obama announced his candidacy for president.

"The reports from other states are very disturbing, especially the pattern of mass confusion among targeted voters on the eve of a state's primary," Democracy North Carolina's Bob Hall tells Facing South. "These are highly skilled political operatives -- something doesn't add up.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:33 PM
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2. Here's the original thread for those looking for back story.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5751417


Thanks for making this it's own thread. I am just seething about this.
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:38 PM
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4. Imagine that? Women undermining the vote! That is very unfortunate.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:40 PM
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5. In 11 states, no less
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:41 PM
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6. A TPM commenter does a nice little tally.
I do not claim to know who supports Women's Voices.Women Vote, but please take a look at the group's Directors/Leadership Team as posted on the WVWV website.

1. John Podesta -- Chief of Staff to Bill Clinton 98-01.
2. Mimi Mager -- Member Clinton-Gore Transition team.
3. Michael Lux -- Member of the Board of the Clinton Gore Alumni Association (ClintonGoreAlumni.org (CGA) is member-driven organization that seeks to maintain an ongoing network among those former political appointees of the Clinton-Gore Administration, the national '92 and '96 campaigns and Democratic Party activists around the country.)
4. Joe Goode -- the Senior Analyst on company CEO Stan Greenberg's work for the Clinton for President campaign in 1992.
(http://www.wvwv.org/about/board-and-bios)

I'm all for innocent until proven otherwise but according to Facing South the group has admitted that it is behind the calls. Even a cursory read of the WVWV website shows rather strong ties to the Clintons.

There are other members of the Directors/Leadership Team and they do have other affiliations. That said, there does appear to be a common thread here.

Link here: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/04/nonprofit_womens_voices_women.php#comment-2768708

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There sure seem to be a lot of Clinton-related flies buzzing around this particular pile of crap, no?

- as
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:59 PM
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9. Maggie Williams, Hillary's campaign manager
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