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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:51 PM
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Battle for superdelegates is over
Obama backer predicts victory in Hill war

By AMIE PARNES & JOSEPHINE HEARN | 4/30/08 4:31 AM EST

Capitol Hill insiders say the battle for congressional superdelegates is over, and one Senate supporter of Barack Obama is hinting strongly that he has prevailed over Hillary Rodham Clinton.

While more than 80 Democrats in the House and Senate have yet to state their preferences in the race for the Democratic nomination, sources said Tuesday that most of them have already made up their minds and have told the campaigns where they stand.

“The majority of superdelegates I’ve talked to are committed, but it is a matter of timing,” said Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.). “They’re just preferring to make their decision public after the primaries are over. ... They would like someone else to act for them before they talk about it in the cold light of day.”

Obama currently holds an 18-13 lead among committed superdelegates in the Senate, while Clinton holds a 77-74 lead in the House. Asked which way the committed-but-unannounced superdelegates are leaning, McCaskill — who has endorsed Obama — said: “James Brown would say, ‘I Feel Good.’”

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McCaskill said that the campaigns have all but given up on lobbying her Senate colleagues because they know their minds are made up.

Clinton backer Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) acknowledged that the lobbying is no longer as aggressive as it once was.
“I think there’s a different touch now,” he said. “We’re staying engaged. Right now, it’s about making sure everyone still feels loved and wanted.”

Montana Sen. Jon Tester — one of the Democrats who has yet to commit publicly — said the campaigns “haven’t applied much pressure” of late. “I haven’t heard much, and it’s been a few weeks,” he said.

“All the low-hanging fruit has already been picked,” said one Democratic Senate aide. “The rest are waiting to see who the winner is or are doing what’s in their best interests. Most of the people that are remaining just don’t want to pick the wrong side.”
Uncommitted superdelegates have many reasons for waiting to announce their support publicly, but chief among them is a desire to preserve their options should their favored candidate suddenly tank.

Some of the uncommitted superdelegates are in tenuous electoral situations themselves, and they fear that they might lose a reelection fight if they miscalculate the presidential race. Still, these delegates follow the contest with the same enthusiasm of committed delegates, and they want to let their chosen campaigns know of their support. They will often place a courtesy call to the opposing campaign, a move that helps preserve a relationship while also ensuring that they won’t be lobbied further.

Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) said Tuesday that he plans to remain uncommitted because of the fight to seat the Michigan delegates. He insisted that he’s still trying to decide who has “the best chance of winning” in November and that he honestly doesn’t know the answer yet.

more... http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9968.html
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:53 PM
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1. Carl Levin HAS NO SD VOTE (as of now)
and i hope he does not get it back ...he's an architect of the Michigan debacle..
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:53 PM
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2. I will not think it is over until Obama takes the lead in supers.
And he needs to do it before primary season is over.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 02:04 PM
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9. Well, at the current rate, that'll be in about a week or two.
The superdelegate gap is down to 24. Not sure if that counts today's three. At the current rate, it shouldn't be long before he has the SD lead as well.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 02:31 PM
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11. Correction: that does NOT include today's three. So it's really 21 superdelegates. nt
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:46 PM
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27. It has been in the 20s for a month now yet supers keep flooding in.
What gives?
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:55 PM
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3. Technical Question
If a superdelegate "commits" can they uncommit? In other words super delegate John Doe from Kokomo says I am committed to candidate X but come convention time can he vote for candidate Y with no explanation given?
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:57 PM
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4. Yep
They can change at any time. There would doubtless be political fallout from backing down from an announced decision, but nothing at all stops them. Remember not all superdelegates are public officials either.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:58 PM
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5. Any delegate can do that n/t
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:58 PM
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7. Certainly, but they rarely do. Once they're committed they're usually loyal. nt
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:59 PM
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8. Yes.
Several John Does have already switched over from Candidate X to Candidate Y, although they often cite reasons, such as Candidate X's shameful campaign reasons.

Of course, those John Does "committed" themselves quite early, in many cases before the primaries actually started, and they're far less likely to change their minds now.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:58 PM
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6. the secret super delegate argument thread number 5000000... lol
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 02:56 PM
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14. you're scared shitless, ain't ya?
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 04:00 PM
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21. shaking in my boots
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 04:10 PM
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22. you defecated in your boots?
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 02:10 PM
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10. My favorite question: How many SD's have switched FROM Obama TO Clinton?
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 02:11 PM by powergirl
I'll wait right here for the answer. :popcorn:
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 02:38 PM
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12. These superdelegates need to stop acting like cockroaches and come into the light.
"Right now, it’s about making sure everyone still feels loved and wanted.”

Oh COME ON!

These are our "Washington warriors"?

Really?

Where did anyone ever get the impression that Dem leadership was spineless and weak?

:eyes:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 03:40 PM
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16. If Obama wins in North Carolina and gets at least 40% of Indiana
I think the SD floodgates will open...and flow in his direction.

:headbang:
rocknation
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 04:23 PM
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26. Maybe they need a phonebooth to change in?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 02:39 PM
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13. 3 today for Obama - its fork time
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 04:12 PM
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24. Its BIG fork time!
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 04:15 PM by sparosnare
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 03:35 PM
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15. We're almost home
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 03:42 PM
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17. This is only congressional superdelegates. What about all the other superdelegates?
Could they swing the race to Clinton?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 03:50 PM
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18. Theoretically, but not likely at all.
There's currently 247 uncommitted superdelegates. To clinch the nomination, Obama only needs about a third of them, and he's been outpacing Clinton by more than two to one in SD endorsements.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 03:56 PM
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19. interesting
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 04:00 PM
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20. This confirms earlier reports,
including in this week's TIME.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 04:12 PM
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23. K&R n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 04:15 PM
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25. Obama is now 286 delegates away from winning the Democratic Party’s presidential nomination.
according to a news report I posted today on Rep. Baron Hill's endorsement of Obama. Hill is an Indiana Blue Dog Democrat.
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FedoraLV Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:00 PM
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28. kick /nt
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