RE: Obama's excuse that he "wasn't in church" during Wright's sermons

[Clintonista2]

Anyone want to explain why a man who claims to have such strong faith apparently skips church every week?

[Maddy McCall]

1. When he was at Harvard, he had Wright tape his sermons and mail them to him.

[TheZug]

2. Why the hell do you give a rat's ass? Who cares about his damn preacher?

[Clintonista2]

It's actually more about Obama's character than his preacher

[leftofcool]

11. And his judgement is taking his children to a church where that shit is preached

[TheZug]

19. Well, I used to be Catholic, and talk about shit being preached . . .

[TheZug]

13. MSM inserts meme into your brain, you dutifully obey.

[movonne]

48. Let's talk about hillary's character...and some of the one's who

support her..you will not be happy until mc cain wins this election...because I really don't think hillary can... that is why she has to go on O'Reilly..it seems like hillary can do no wrong..it's fine with you that she would Obliterate Iran, vote to keep cluster bombs, etc...

[oviedodem]

3. Obama said he was not in church FOR THE COMMENTS IN THE LOOP!!!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

4. Don't you feel at least a little bit stupid?

Pretending this shit is an issue?

[Clintonista2]

8. Yea, we really should get back to the "REAL" issues. i.e "Snipergate" and "Bookbag-gate"

:eyes:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

14. How about the war in Iraq?

Hillary voted for it.

[ProSense]

21. "REAL" issues. i.e "Snipergate" A candidate for president making up a sniper incident out of

whole cloth is far worse than Obama knowing Wright.

[cali]

33. and this is no more germane than stupid snipergate

[yellowcanine]

5. See dead horse. Beat dead horse. Rewind. Repeat.

[DeepBlueC]

20. you cracked me up! thanx

[rocktivity]

36. .

rocknation

[leftofcool]

6. I am waiting for the good Rev to put out a video showing Obama in the pews

while he was singing Goddamn America. Or a Sunday church roll count showing Obama there.

[SeaLyons]

24. Me too, I think we'll see that before it's over

[leftofcool]

34. If Obama didn't set this up himself to garner sympathy and

Rev Wright is really offended, this will come out

[scheming daemons]

7. His church attendance is as much your business as Hillary and Bill's marriage sanctity is ours....

...

[leftofcool]

18. Yet Obama supporters love to harp on this very thing

[Forkboy]

46. And if that bothers you then so should this.

No?

[Avalux]

9. I'm sorry you won't let this Wright thing go.

The rest of us have moved on.

[anonymous171]

10. They have 3 services on Sundays.

http://www.tucc.org/service_times.htm
Odds are against you, even if the sermon was given on a sunday.

[tridim]

12. You're obsessed.

Get back to us if/when you want to talk about actual issues.

[FrenchieCat]

15. Was Hillary in the room while the husband, a serial adulterer and liar, a man that she picked

had sex with those women?

Just asking. :shrug:

[Clintonista2]

30. I would assume not.

Was Michelle in the car with Obama and Larry Sinclaire?

[FrenchieCat]

40. You're bringing up made up shit versus what Bill Clinton admitted to?

Shit, guess you'll do and say anything!

You are a sad but true reflection of your candidate. Two peas in a pod.

You dare judge Obama via a double standard not applicable to Hillary Clinton.

You are intellectually dishonest, and then some.

How can you sleep with yourself at night? You must be single and alone! :puke:

[Clintonista2]

52. I'll take that as a YES

She was.

[FrenchieCat]

66. She was at your house, talking to you......

since we're making shit up.

[Clintonista2]

68. Larry Sinclaire?

Is that you?

[still_one]

16. and what was Hillary's reason for sticking with Bill's whore mongering? /nt

[MannyGoldstein]

17. Obama Wrote An Essay In Kindergarten

Stating that he wanted to be President. We must never forget this.

Oh my.

[TheZug]

22. This is nothing but crass shilling for HRC, the Queen of Crass.

[democrattotheend]

23. 5 sermons out of hundreds have been showcased

Is it not conceivable that he might not have been present when these particular 5 sermons out of hundreds were preached? Didn't one of the networks have someone who attended the church for years say that he was surprised when these sermons first showcased, because they were not all that typical?

[Vyan]

45. MSNBC

has a corresponded who has also attended Wright's church. She never heard or saw a thing.

[JMDEM]

49. Hundreds?

Try thousands. Try 20,000. 1000 a year for 20 years. (3 per each sunday)

[NewHampshireDem]

25. Take one

[casus belli]

28. LOL! Love it...

[casus belli]

26. Oh my god.

:shakes head in disbelief:

[backscatter712]

27. Tell it to someone that gives a shit. Pastorgate is dead.

[shraby]

29. I don't care if he never went to church.

That's not a criteria to pick a president.

[shaniqua6392]

31. Now an Obama supporter will bring up Bill's infidelity.....

Ready.....Set.....Go.....!! LOL!! Or maybe sniper-gate....back pack gate.....Look away! Don't analyze Obama. He is perfect. :sarcasm:

[Dr Fate]

32. I think that Hillary should make scary black people a central theme of her campaign.

She should hammer, hammer, HAMMER it home until every non-elite, "working class" person in Pennsylvania is in a proper lather.

Isnt there some way we can tie Obama to Willie Horton? Rodney King? I'll bet we can.

Once this is accomplished- an army of noble, salt-of-the-earth, Christ-like "working class" folks will rise up and do tireless campaigning for Democrats. Err- unless they believe Mccain's talking points once he uses similar guilt by association tactics on Hillary- but let's cross that bridge when we get to it.

It's all a major win-win for someone I'm sure.

[solara]

35. I have a very strong faith and I rarely if EVER go to church

just sayin' :shrug:




INVESTIGATE IMPEACH INDICT INCARCERATE :patriot:

[Window]

37. Hell no. No one has to explain a damn thing to you. No one.

IF, someone were to waste their time, would it make a difference to you. HELL NO! Get a freakin' life.

[uponit7771]

38. I didn't know Hillary was an asshole for 15 years either

[ShortnFiery]

41. No truer words have ever been typed. DAMN, I regret that I ever defended her and ...

and her morally bankrupt husband, Bubba "Big Dawg" ... Throughout the 90s I "defended the indefensible" ... no more!

The Clintons are the DLC version of Bush's GOP. :thumbsdown:

[uponit7771]

50. Yeap, I talked to a black lady yesterday & deep in her critic of Hillary there was disappointement..

...in her actions against Obama and moving to the right to attrack a group of voters who'll NEVER EVER like her because she's a woman.

[Clintonista2]

73. "Yesterday I talked to a black lady"

And you guys call us racist? Why wouldn't you just say "yesterday I talked to a lady blah blah blah"? The fact that she was black had nothing to do with your little story.

[Texas Hill Country]

39. LOL, no kiddin

[LSK]

42. where did Obama work and where does he work now???

Do those locations have churches???

Are you really that fucking stupid?

[DemGa]

43. Obama must not have read the "Pastor's Page" much

JERUSALEM – Sen. Barack Obama's Chicago church published an open letter from a Palestinian activist that labels Israel an "apartheid" regime and claims the Jewish state worked on an "ethnic bomb" that kills "blacks and Arabs."

The letter, discovered by the blog Sweetness & Light, was published on the "Pastor's Page" of the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter reserved for Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., whose anti-American, anti-Israel remarks prompted the presidential candidate to deliver a major race speech last week.

"I must tell you that Israel was the closest ally to the white supremacists of South Africa," wrote the letter's author, Ali Baghdadi. "In fact, South Africa allowed Israel to test its nuclear weapons in the ocean off South Africa. The Israelis were given a blank check: they could test whenever they desired and did not even have to ask permission. Both worked on an ethnic bomb that kills Blacks and Arabs."

The June 10, 2007, newsletter, which is still available at Obama's church's website, identifies Baghdadi as an Arab-American activist, writer and columnist who "acted as a Middle East advisor to the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, the founder of the Nation of Islam, as well as Minister Louis Farrakhan."


http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=59884

[noel711]

54. Hey, my congregants don't read my pastor's page neither....

the man has a life....

[Vyan]

44. It wasn't every week

those clips go back to 2003, 2001 - it was over the course of fives years. Barack says he wasn't there, Wright says he wasn't there, we do have the video tape, find him in the crowd if you can or else give it up.

Vyan

[NeedleCast]

47. what's Hillary's Excuse

For NAFTA?
For IRW?
For Lying about snipers?

[jbnow]

65. She was tired, that's what. Also tired when she claimed

credit for SCHIP
The Clinton administration was against it before they were for it

Family and Medical Leave Act
She had nothing to do with it except it was the first bill that Bill signed

passing FEMA reform
But you get tired sometimes.

[JoFerret]

51. I think that's all nonsense

I think maybe he did not plan to run for president.

[noel711]

53. Lots of folks at my church don't attend every week, or every month

yet I don't question their faith, or their spirituality....

Nor do I test them as to what part of my sermons they absorbed,

Nor do I expect them to pass a litmus test so that I control every

minute of their lives, and they parrot every damn thing I say.


Most of the time, they go about their business... of real life.


Statements like yours simply mimic the talking points of the right wing

And have absolutely nothing to do with people who belong to a church.

Real people of faith, really committed church members know that faith

means more than swallowing every word a preacher says...

YOu gotta get out more... go to church, listen to a preacher,

and see how much you 'absorb.'

[datopbanana]

55. He didn't say "GOD DAMN AMERICA" everyweek.

[uponit7771]

57. They think their wedding went "I now pronounce you husband and wife, now God dam America & Kiss the

...bride"

[book_worm]

56. In Washington? how many times does Hillary go to her church?

[Jed Dilligan]

58. Post on your own website if you want anyone to listen to you

You've already told this one what you think of it.

[Tribetime]

59. Walk a mile in my shoes

I can relate to that. I believe it's more about your actions toward God and others than how many times you go to church. JMHO...I do see a lot of people who go to church every week, but are full of hate toward others.

[Schema Thing]

60. Weird, I saw one or two snippets of one or two singular sermons

played hundreds of times on cable news. Not the same words said over and over at different times.


And in context, had I been listening to the "God damned America" sermon, six weeks later I would not have been able to remember that Wright said "god damned America!".

You know why?

Because he didn't really say that. He said "blah blah blah....prophecy, Isreal, Greece, Rome, prophecy, God told Isreal... blah blah blah... American government lies, do not put your trust in government, god prophesied AGAINST his people... blah blah blah, we cannot as a country do this, that, the other thing and expect god's favor, Israel, blah blah blah, the saying goes god bless america? No, I say god damn america".

Or substance thereof.

So yeah, I'd forget it. But that doesn't matter, cuz nobody claims Obama was there. And nobody (except hillary and mccain supporters) is claiming that Wright went around repeating his most controversial words over and over. So it's not hard to believe that a church member could miss them.

[RamboLiberal]

61. Oh let's see - Troops killed in Iraq - most since 09/07

Bush may be dragging U.S. into war with Iran - oh and who voted for that as well?

Billions of dollars of taxpayer's money still being poured in to the black hole of Iraq and defense contractors.

Homes being foreclosed at a rate unseen in decades.

Credit card debt at high levels.

No universal health care.

My 401k tanking.

Gas and food prices going up, up, up.

And I'm supposed to give a rat's ass about what Obama heard in church or if he went to church.

Hell if he was in church I hope he took note on some of the true things Wright said.

[redqueen]

62. Oh. My. God!

:rofl:

Keep shoppin it!

Voters are sooooo hungry for more WRIGHTAPALOOZA! :D

[iamthebandfanman]

63. I wanna know clintons excuse...

for being so dillusional and keeping this primary going when shes already lost.

think either of us will get an answer?

i know which issue is more important, thats for sure... and it aint some preacher talking out his arse.

i know when i attended church, i couldnt have told you what the guy said on any sunday.

personally, id rather have someone who didnt go to church in office. less things to blind his judgement.

[kwenu]

64. Are you serious? Unless there is video of Obama sitting in the audience during "the sermons"....

I really suggest you let this go. This attack is pathetic and it just makes the people bringing it up look far worse than any damage they think they're doing. And then to extend it to he skips church and therefore...well I'm not even sure what the therefore is, but that just underscores how pathetic it is.

[crimsonblue]

67. I guess you didn't get the memo...

Nobody's talking about Wright anymore. Story over. too bad. makes you sad.

[roguevalley]

69. work? life events? how often do you attend? or do you?

[RazBerryBeret]

70. I don't go to church every week.

and it wasn't a blanket statement....he didn't say he wasn't in church for any of Wright's sermons, it was that "God Damn America" sermon specifically that he missed. and AGAIN, I thought we all knew this by now...

[walldude]

71. So what's your excuse?

Want to explain why someone who claims to be a Democrat would experience such joy in posting flamebait as you do? On a daily basis..

[ecdab]

72. Democrats making church attendance an issue? Camp Hillary is

digging for more GOP tactics to use. Just when you think they can not sink any lower, they find a way.