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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 09:46 AM
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Orlando Sentinel reveals today who drew up bogus "felon" list for Jeb...
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/state/orl-asecfelons11071104jul11,0,5010731.story?coll=orl-home-headlines

"This list has been an unwise policy from Day One," said Ion Sancho, Leon County supervisor of elections. "We knew there were problems with it from the outset. But now it appears there are so many flaws it's rendered completely useless."

Sancho said the latest disparity involving Hispanic names would never have been revealed if the list had not been made public.

"None of these records would've come to light if the secretary's office was successful in keeping the list secret," he said. "I think there should be an investigation into how this list was put together by the department."

Hood has said little about how the list was developed by her office, in cooperation with Accenture, a technology firm whose lobbyists include Van Poole, a former state Republican Party chairman, as well as two former party staffers and a former top aide to Bush.

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We can thank one of those "activist" judges who upheld the people's right to know, and forced the state to make this bogus list public. How convenient that this supposed "honest" error would work to the benefit of the Republicans and that Republican campaign operatives were the ones the state turned to to compile this list-- and then the Jeb-appointed Republican Secretary of State went to court to try to keep it all secret. By the way, this same attorney, Joe Klock, represented Dubya in the 2000 recount.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 09:49 AM
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1. Great find Flpo ...
The GOP has become one, massive criminal organization without parallel in the american political landscape ...
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OpSomBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 09:51 AM
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2. To find a parallel you'd have to look at the Mafia.
n/t
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 10:38 AM
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13. We've still got the touch screens.
Don't forget to show up at a "The computer ate my vote" rally on Tuesday. We're having one at the Little Rd Govt' Center In New Port Richey, Florida (Pasco County) at 9:30am.

Featured speakers will be 5th District Democratic Congressional Candidate John Russell, Candidate for Pasco Supervisor of Elections Patrick Bergy (No Party Affiliation), Voting Machine Task Force Coordinator Jan Lentz, and former 9th district congressional candidate, little ole me.

Get rid of these machines and count our votes!!!!
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 09:52 AM
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3. Does this mean that an investigation is about to take place?
If so, can they go back and investigate 2000 also. By the way, isn't Accenture the company that just won a major contract for biometric identification?
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 10:05 AM
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11. There will be no investigation by Jeb Bush or Ashcroft's Justice Dept.
Edited on Sun Jul-11-04 10:05 AM by flpoljunkie
You can just about take that to the bank. If forced, due to public pressure, there will, no doubt, be a whitewash.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 10:09 AM
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12. Geg Palast spilled the beans on this before....zero media coverage
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 09:54 AM
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4. Don't forget that Accenture was formerly
Arthur Anderson Consulting which collaberated with Arthur Anderson Accounting on the Enron debacle. (of course among many others).

If I'm not mistaken, Accenture came about after Enron went belly up and Anderson's role was revealed.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 09:57 AM
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7. Yep, Name Change
Just like Worldcom went back to MCI. This should be illegal. If a corporation is a person, then they shouldn't be able to change their names for fraudulent purposes anymore than you or I can.

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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 10:02 AM
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9. Yes, the Bermuda-based Accenture has as $10B Homeland Security contract
Accenture seems to be the accounting company of choice for the Republicans.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 09:56 AM
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5. A handful of people should go to jail for this.
It isn't very hard to determine motive in this case. Denying *democrats* the right to vote by *republicans*. It is pretty obvious they were going to steal Florida again this year, I am just glad they were caught in the act. Who goes to jail? What political officeholder and what members from Accenture? Surely there is a conflict of interest if Accenture are donors to the GOP, which I am sure they are.

So many nasty little twists to this story, I am sure we are still only hearing the beginning.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 09:56 AM
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6. Accenture - Arthur Anderson
Oh yeah, I trust that company. good lord. :eyes:
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blueknight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 10:04 AM
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10. why in the fuck
dont people go to jail for this kind of shit? these people make john gotti look like a choirboy! these are the most corrupt,rotten,lie telling bastards i have ever seen in my life. and of course, the media for the biggest part will give them a free pass on this. the florida newspapers should be all over this.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 08:50 PM
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17. Accenture = Andersen Consulting; Arthur Andersen is just Accountants
Arthur Andersen will help you cook the books; Accenture (formerly Andersen Consulting) will help you cook up just about anything else a consultant can make/make up.
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King of New Orleans Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 10:01 AM
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8. Yeah, they'll try to sweep this under the rug as fast as they can
But somebody should be fired right now, whether it was incompetence or malice, that was behind this fraud of a list. Fire 'em now for incompetence, investigate and charge 'em later for fraud.
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 10:46 AM
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14. Their desperation has now reached the point that they
are considering postponing the elections.
We are dealing with some very dangerous people who will stoop to anything and justify any means to maintain their power.
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 11:13 AM
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15. They will now don their teflon suits,
congratulate each other on dropping this particular list and this will slide down the memory hole.

I hope not. It's wonderful that some of the shennanigans (honest errors) are getting exposed, but - This doesn't settle anything and actually opens more questions.

What happens next week when the Supervisors' offices are handed an updated list to contend with? Or the week after? Will anything actually change? Has the criteria for adding new names been corrected? Is it still going to be based on arrest records? Has the 'system' been updated so the criminal database now includes Hispanic, or has the state's voter registration dropped the category?

and What the hell is Accenture still doing in the mix? What role do they have in this? Aren't they frying bigger fish now?

Accenture Awarded US-VISIT Contract. A U.S. corporation based in Bermuda will receive more than $10 billion from the Department of Homeland Security to build US-VISIT, a massive government surveillance system that tracks visitors to, within, and from the United States. In February, EPIC urged (pdf) the agency to define how Privacy Act obligations affect the program, to consider the significance of international privacy standards in the collection and use of personal information on non-U.S. citizens, and to prohibit the expansion of US-VISIT uses beyond the program’s defined mission. These issues remain unresolved. (June 1, 2004)
http://www.epic.org/privacy/us-visit/default.html


Accenture Faces Daunting Task with US-VISIT Contract
June 9, 2004
By Nathan Root

UPDATE: House Approves $10B Accenture Deal
(from EarthWeb News)

The Department of Homeland Security awarded a five-year, multi-billion dollar contract to Accenture (formerly known as Andersen Consulting) to redesign and implement the United States Visitor and Immigrant Status Indicator Technology (US-VISIT) program.

The contract is for five years plus five optional one-year extensions. Under the contract, Accenture will lead the "Smart Border Alliance" in providing a range of professional and technical services to support the modernization of DHS border management processes and information systems. The end result will be a new entry and exit system deployed at more than 400 air, land, and sea ports of entry.
http://www.insideid.com/credentialing/article.php/3365761

Note: my apologies for running off topic. What a twisted web of wealthy corporations, manipulation and corruption - um - 'honest errors'.

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If anyone registered to vote in Florida has any doubts whatsoever, they need to call their county Supervisor of Elections office every week or two to check that their names aren't on an updated list.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 12:42 PM
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16. Article answers your question re what election supervisors will now do...
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/state/orl-asecfelons11071104jul11,0,5010731.story?coll=orl-home-headlines

County officials will now go back to their conventional approach of verifying voter names based on lists of felons provided by local court clerks, Cowles said.

The change effectively returns Florida to the system used before Bush took office, said Howard Simon, ACLU of Florida executive director.

"Purging was based on the good judgment of county supervisors," he said. "There's still going to be purging. It's just not going to be polluted by the list developed by state officials."

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This seems to rule out Jeb sending them any more bogus "felon" lists. What they may try next to stymie the vote and the vote counting (read electronic voting machines) in Florida is deeply troubling.
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