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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:14 PM
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Goddamit! When will the fucking media stop obsessing over fucking Rev, Wright?
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 05:16 PM by Armstead
They're a bunch of morons. The whole fucking lot of them.

Just one example. Some MSNBC reporter was interviewing a voter in Indiana. Asked her what is important to her, and she replied the economy and healthcare. Then the nitwit moves quickly beyond such unimportant matters and zeroes right into the BIG REV. WRIGHT QUESTION.

Fuck you you stuipid idiots!

The panel shows are all obsessing over Rev, Wright. Saying such idiotioc crap as "he has to move beyond that." But what questions and comments do they choose to air? Gas prices? The ecocnomy? Nooooo. Rev Wright. Fuck you, you stupid asshole idiots.

Even if I were a Clinton supporter I would find the mindlessness of this offensive.

They are fucking idiots. IDIOTS!


I know, I know...Just turn off the TV. But the problem is I would like to learn about what is actually going on......Rev. Wright. Rev. Wright. Rev. Wright....


Rev. Wright....rev. Wright.....Rev. Wright......
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:17 PM
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1. Nobody is interested in Wright (it's over)
kind of Britney Spears - passe
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:20 PM
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6. In the real world, yes. In the media it is all that matters.
Hell this shouold be a brawl between Clinton and Obama over real issues.

But we're in an issue free zone...except, of course for Rev Wright.

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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:23 PM
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15. Who do you think you're kidding. The world can't get enough of the charismatic Reverend Wright
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:17 PM
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39. I hate to say it, it is only the media, pundits
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:00 AM
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91. Think of it as...
a circle jerk for people who were never going to vote for Obama anyway.
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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:48 PM
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37. the media will repeat it over & over & over till everybody who's only source of news
is television has heard it & absorbed it and obama will be toast. hell, obama is already toast & he did it to himself.

FYI, it is not over & never will be over.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:16 PM
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38. Like Paris Hilton?
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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:24 PM
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58. yep. just like that.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:46 PM
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101. My Mother, a highly educated "Obama elitist" who eats arugula & reads NYT, doesn't know who Hagee is
Edited on Thu May-01-08 12:50 PM by Leopolds Ghost
That is how bad the media double standard is.

On Edit: Not to denigrate my mom, of course,
the Clintonites would call her that... despite
the fact that none of them would consider me
employable because I'm not an upwardly mobile,
low-information office worker or mechanic like
"typical working class whites" who I have
always supported and argued with my "elite"
friends in favor of. The reality is most
Americans believe in the "socialism of fools"
-- they attack both "elites" and poor people
and think only people in their own income
group or higher (where they themselves would
reasonably aspire to be) are truly deserving.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:18 PM
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2. Probably at about the same time that DU stops obsessing...
I love Rev. Wright.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:19 PM
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3. Obama vs Bill / Hillary / MSM.. And Obama will still win
They can try to get her in all they want. The math doesnt work out for her.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:42 PM
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33. Don't forget to include the GOP in that
They are all in the tank for her. Operation chaos.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:19 PM
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4. Character assassination replaced the assassin's bullet.
They tried to bring down Dean, and now Obama, with MSM character assassination.

It's the 21st century method of whacking political leaders.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:22 PM
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12. I think it;'s more that they are clueless assholes.
Their inanity is bipartisan, though it does tend to favor the corporate candidates.

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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:19 PM
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5. I've heard it takes a couple of days for the adrenaline to leave their bodies.
Getting the stupid to leave their brains, however, is a different story.

- as
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:20 PM
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7. November 5, 2008.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:25 PM
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22. I doubt they'll stop obsessing even after Obama is in the oval office.
The Repukes still obsess over the Clenis.
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Innocent Smith Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:21 PM
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8. Give it another day or two
It should run its course by next Tuesday night at the latest.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:21 PM
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9. November 5 of this year...
I would imagine, given the track record of the Whoreth Estate, that this topic will become history on November 5.

We won't hear about it again, except as a topic of historical interest...
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:21 PM
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10. Another major news story.
A school shooting, a weather catastrophe that kills a lot of people, a terrorist attack in Europe (Americans are much too desensitized to terrorist attacks in the Third World), or the unexpected death of a very famous person in the US.

NO, I am not wishing for any of this to happen. I am merely stating the facts and what I believe would have to happen to make Rev. Wright disappear from the news.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:38 PM
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62. You're right on. They just need some other story to report on
that doesn't discuss an actual political issue. Something like a politician sleeping with someone or Britney doing something and they will all jump on that.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:21 PM
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11. Why do think they're doing it? Do you think it's because of ratings? Do
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 05:23 PM by wiggs
you think it's because they're idiots misreading what's important? Or do you think it's because corporate media managers know what's good for the parent companies? Do you think WH and GOP are still feeding daily faxes to media outlets telling them what's newsworthy?

(IMO, ratings and idiocy have nothing to do with it.)
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:23 PM
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14. I think the journalists left their brains on the bathroom floor.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:40 PM
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31. Wow...you're fast. Just edited my comments. nt
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:43 PM
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51. Corporate pressure is nothing new. The passive stupidity of journalists is.
The big problem today is that the peopel who work in newsrooms no longer stand up to the corporate bosses. Folks like Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkheit stood their ground and at least resisted pressures from upstairs.

The otrehr difference is that thanks to deregulation, networks no longer have any obligation to serve the public interest. So newsrooms become nothing but circuses and megaphones for the corporate inetrests.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:52 PM
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102. It's all engineered by mil-industrial propaganda platforms. They even brag about whos on the payroll
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:46 PM
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36. It is because
most of their "political pundits" are Republicans.
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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:22 PM
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13. AMEN. I am so sick of the media telling us what's important.
Its fucking nonsense. Huge distraction.
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jpertello Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:23 PM
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16. Time to say Bye-bye to the Reverend Jeremiah Wright
Because hard as it is to believe, Rev Wright didn't make headlines by speaking outrageously. The MSM made the headlines by not only carrying his comments live in their entirety, but by replaying them over and over again ad nauseum. And then discussing the comments 24/7 as if there was no other news to report. Then they all sit around in wonder at how this tumor of a story metastasized into the STORY OF THE WEEK!

Joe Scarborough: Gee, I wonder why this REV WRIGHT story won't die? Let's talk about it some more.

Mika Brzezinski: Yeah, the REV WRIGHT AND HIS OUTRAGEOUS COMMENTS just story won't calm down. Let's watch that clip of his speech again.
Chris Matthews: Do you think this REV WRIGHT story is all anyone else is talking about? Do you think the media has become obsessed with the REVEREND JEREMIAH WRIGHT? Let's ask these journalists and political analysts what they think of the REV JEREMIAH WRIGHT AND HIS OUTRAGEOUS COMMENTS and all speculate on what is keeping this story alive.

Wolf Blitzer: Coming up after the break we watch the National Press Club speech yet again and focus the next 120 hours on this story which, for some reason, won't die.
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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:24 PM
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17. Telephone MSNBC....
I did....

they have an operator answering the line,
she asked: "What was it that you object to? Is it a particular person?"

Be nice to her. She only works there..

But call.... every damn day...tell them they have 'jumped the shark' for a news organization.

Apparently, Tweedy was in a frezy: "When will the Wright go away?"
The answer? "When you stop blathering about it, stupid."


MSNBC.... 202-885-4800
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:24 PM
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18. They are doing it because people are voting next week.
They have built up Indiana to be the goalpost so they are trying to make sure she wins.

They don't have an issue but Wright right now. So you are going to hear about 24 hours a day until Indiana.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:25 PM
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19. Your Junior Senator told MSNBC that this was old news in very strong terms
and listed the real issues that they needed to get back too - very strong push back.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:45 PM
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53. When was that? I'd like to see it online if it's available
That's what politicians ought to do is push back.

Journalists should be reflecting the agenda -- not creating it.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:29 PM
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60. Here you go
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:37 PM
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67. Thankee
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:50 AM
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80. Here's a link - though you might have seen the other threads
http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=1669b75b-d1d1-4ed6-9052-70e2d82cae06

The 1:55 clip is pretty much the same as Huff post.
The 4:33 clip is part two.

PS The name is not that accurate - Kerry didn't yell - he was much much better NOT yelling. (I don't actually think I've heard Kerry yell at anyone on any clip.)
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:25 PM
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20. Aw, but try looking at it another way...
the more these mindless whores keep shopping WRIGHTAPALOOZA! the more turned-off the voters get... and the more turned-off the voters get by their unbeliavable freaking idiocy... the more will learn not to trust the soulless parasites!

See? Bright side. :hug:
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:25 PM
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21. What's your problem?
Turn off your telly.
Twas ever thus. this folly of assured mutual destruction is irresistible until you turn it off.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:26 PM
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23. what's this, like day four in a row for this latest eruption?
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:47 PM
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56. If you'd set your partisan blinders aside you might recognize....
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 07:48 PM by Armstead
that this syndrome hurts your candidate too.

Lately she's been on an upswing. But she's just as susceptable to these pile ons too.

And her message and agenda also gets overshadowed by crap like the obsession with distractions like Wright.

I can deal with bad news for Obama. But I can;t abide badly done news that neglects what the campaign coverage should be about.

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:33 PM
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61. you're so partisan that you couldn't even imagine I was commiserating with you
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 08:34 PM by bigtree
I have no sympathy at all for you, personally in any of this. You relentlessly attack Clinton here with the most personal characterizations of her and her supporters.


But, I've said repeatedly that I don't believe Obama shares the controversial views of Wright and that's the most important and relevant thing here.
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KellyW Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:29 PM
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24. Until...
The media has beaten down Obama so it still looks like Clinton still has a chance. The "media" want this to go to the convention-good for ratings.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:30 PM
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25. The Reich Wing media will never stop clucking about Rev. Wright
They forced Obama to publicly denounce Rev. Wright and I'm sure they would like to make him do it again.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:31 PM
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26. When Wright learns to shut his fucking mouth.
He only gives them more ammo.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:40 PM
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50. They don;t have to pay attention to him
Maybe they ought to endlessly dissect my ranting or your ranting or your barber's ranting.

The media doesn;t have to be hostage to this. They could keep it in its proper perspective, which ought to have been one of those one-day-wonder stories.

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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:32 PM
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27. so what did the person say?
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:00 PM
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45. I don;t remember...I was too busy waiting for the Wright question.
But seriously, she was an Obama supporter who had taken a buy-out on her job, and she was worried what was going to happen when the money ran out and the health insurance would expire in a few months.

Then it was on to Rev. Wright....As I recall she was angry at Wright for claiming to speak for all Black churches....But by that time my Wright shut-down filter was kicking in....
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:35 PM
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28. Actually, this may be the best timeline I can give.... from the looks
of things....

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:38 PM
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29. The answer is NEVER!! Too lurid and pornographic to let go.
Too easy to talk about they don't need to research anything, just play the youtube video...
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:58 PM
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43. I think you're on to something there...
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:39 PM
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30. That's how I felt the first time
it's just stupid, stupid stupid.

This time I'm not even paying attention.

Watch out! A big scary black man is coming your way!

David
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:42 PM
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32. Post-Wright Obama did better in PA than Pre-Wright Obama in OH
No one cares.

Except for GOPers and HRCers.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:43 PM
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34. turned on Race for the White House for a minute.
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 05:49 PM by ErinBerin84
The "just released" poll numbers asked specific questions about Obama's ties to Wright and Ayes, and 32% find it a "MAJOR CONCERN" (which David Gregory LOVED...despite the fact that the Bush/McCain relationship concerned a higher percentage of people!) Obama is up against Clinton (46 to 43) and higher up than Clinton against McCain. David Gregory also stressed that these numbers "may not reflect the recent Wright flare ups". God, they are so desperate.


Anyways, Pat of course ran with it. "People don't know who 'THIS GUY' (Obama. That's what Pat calls him) IS!!!"
It was funny though, because they cut from Pat saying that to Richard Wolfe, Michelle Bernard, and Ed Shutlz all given Pat (or the camera at least) DEATH STARES. Haha. Richard Wolfe was like "Yeah, surprise, surprise. People are actually concerned about the Iraq war and the economy."

David Gregory also turned it into a "How pathetic is it that the Democrat matchups against McCain are so weak in a year that the Democrats should be kicking Republican ass" story.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:46 PM
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35. Maybe when Obama stops talking about it.
On Today program and on the campaign trail giving interviews about Wright.

If he wants the story to go away...quit talking about him.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:56 PM
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42. Um he was answering questions he was asked
Michelle's response tyo the Toiday interviewer "Barak has already addfressed this eloquently. But how does this question help our children. How does it address the decisions we have to make about schools....."

Doesn;t sound like they're eager to dwell on it.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:00 PM
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44. I just love the imbecilic blame-shifting.
:puke:
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:20 PM
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40. I notice Rachel was missing from Race2WH
I know she was balking big time last night about media obsessing with Wright. Now today's she's not on a show that's supposed to be the first hour of her radio show. What's up?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:41 PM
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41. Who's fucking Rev Wright?
Did I miss a news story?

Guy or a girl?

Animal?

Geeze ..... I stay away from a computer for a day and this happens.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:03 PM
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46. Benedict Obama?
Barack stabber?

I don't blame Obama for his denunciation.

But - I was actually beginning to tune in to Wright. I see him still as an exemplar of ranting religiosity and narcissism but still - much of what he has to say makes a deal of important sense.

How come all of a sudden he is Obamafolk Enemy #1? (Or rather #2 after Clinton of course!)
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:06 PM
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47. Oh great! Another fucking post on Rev Wright. What is your malfunction?
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:37 PM
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48. My malfunction? Too much rev. Wright
Okay, if it makes you happy, here's a legitimate campaign issue they ought to be talking about. We ought to be talking about. The damn media ought to be talking about. (Particularly the last two points).

--------------------

From the website of Sen. Bernie Sanders:

Outrageously high oil and gas prices that Vermonters and Americans are paying constitute a national emergency that requires a bold response from the White House and Congress, Senator Bernie Sanders said Thursday. “It is clearly unacceptable that with gas at the pump at $3.50 a gallon and home heating oil outrageously high, the big oil companies like Exxon-Mobil are raking in huge, record-breaking profits and hedge fund managers are making billions speculating on oil futures. Today, senate colleagues and I demanded that Saudi-Arabia and other OPEC countries stop their collusion, and increase oil production – which should put more oil on the market and lower prices. But this is just one step in terms of what we have to do. Washington has got to step up to the plate and begin protecting American consumers,” Sanders said.

Sanders said millions of workers are seeing a steep decline in their standard of living because of high gasoline pump prices. Many older Americans, he added, will not be able to heat their homes next winter unless heating fuel prices are lowered. He also noted that energy costs impact the entire economy, including rising food prices. “While energy prices are soaring,” Sanders said, “big oil companies are reporting record profits and speculators at hedge funds and financial institutions are making billions investing in energy futures.”

Sanders is working with other senators on both long-term and short-term solutions to the energy crisis which include:

• Imposing a windfall profits tax on the oil and gas industry. Last year, Exxon-Mobil made $40 billion in profits, more than any company in history. Since President Bush has been in office, the five largest U.S. oil companies have made more than $500 billion in profits. Oil companies should be allowed to make a reasonable profit, but anything above that should be significantly taxed. This will take away the incentive of big oil companies to rip-off Americans at the gas pump. It is time that Congress and the President said “No” to the $213 million in campaign contributions that the oil industry has given to them since 1990 and “Yes” to consumers by taking this important step.

• Closing the “Enron Loophole.” Energy trading exchanges that were exploited by Enron and continue to be abused by other energy traders who are manipulating the price of oil should be re-regulated. Today hedge funds and speculators are making billions in an unregulated climate by bidding up the price of oil. Some experts believe that speculation is increasing the price of oil by 20 percent to 30 percent.

• Stopping the flow of oil into the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, and immediately releasing oil from this federal stockpile to reduce gas prices. This has worked in the past. When President Clinton released oil from this reserve in 2000, the price of gasoline immediately fell by 14 cents a gallon. When the first President Bush released oil from the reserve in 1991, the price of crude oil dropped by $10 a barrel. The time has come to do this again.

• Breaking up OPEC. OPEC is an illegal price-fixing cartel that is clearly in violation of international free trade rules. The president must file a complaint with the World Trade Organization and demand the dismantling of OPEC. The ending of collusion with regard to oil production will result in increased production and lower oil prices.

• Authorize the president to impose price caps to stabilize prices in the event of market manipulation. Today, the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission has the authority to impose temporary price caps on electricity. When it used this authority to deal with the California energy crisis created by Enron, electricity prices fell dramatically. The president should have similar authority over gas prices.It is clearly unacceptable that with gas at the pump at $3.50 a gallon and home heating oil outrageously high, the big oil companies like Exxon-Mobil are raking in huge, record-breaking profits and hedge fund managers are making billions speculating on oil futures. Today, senate colleagues and I demanded that Saudi-Arabia and other OPEC countries stop their collusion, and increase oil production – which should put more oil on the market and lower prices. But this is just one step in terms of what we have to do. Washington has got to step up to the plate and begin protecting American consumers.

Also on Wednesday, Sanders joined Senator Charles Schumer at a Capitol press conference where they released a letter calling on the Bush administration to use its leverage with the members of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries to increase oil supplies or risk Congress holding up multi-million dollar arms deals with Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and other OPEC members. As Americans are paying more than ever to fill up their cars at the gas station ($3.50/gallon on average for regular gasoline), it is clear that oil production by OPEC members is below the capacity at which they could be producing. As a result, higher oil prices are affecting U.S. consumers from the gas pump to the grocery store. The Bush Administration has refused to be tough with so-called OPEC allies and in fact continues to provide huge arms deals, despite the economic pains taxpayers are feeling.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:38 PM
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49. soon enough.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:45 PM
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52. Awww, don't go wobbly Arm. It's gonna get much worse before it's over.
Hang in there... And...

NGU.


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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:49 PM
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57. I'm not wobbly....Just massivelky pissed off
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:27 PM
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59. That I understand.
:toast:

Channel it.

NGU.


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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:46 PM
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54. The day after Obama drops out.
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:46 PM
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55. as soon as he loses.
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:43 PM
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63. July or November, take your pick
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:45 PM
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64. Dude. I thought you liked quiet. You know, REM.
Why all the shouting all of a sudden?
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:39 PM
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69. I'm shouting quietly
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:40 PM
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70. Even quiet bullshit carries the same stench.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:49 PM
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75. You're an asshole
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:53 AM
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82. You're goddamned straight I am. And I don't tolerate bullshit from anyone.
You're so full of shit it's coming out your pores. You spent yesterday tending to two threads you started ragging all over Wright and, implicitly, Obama. And you made it oh-so-clear how you hate noise. Now this.

Yeah, I'm an asshole because I saw through your charade and called you on it. If you don't like it, quit being a tool or put me on Ignore.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:14 AM
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85. Yes I'm ragging Obama.....Right
"You spent yesterday tending to two threads you started ragging all over Wright and, implicitly, Obama."

Um, implicitly ragging on Obama? Hey, Beavis, listen to what Obama has been saying for the last couple of days about Wright. I kinda think he agrees with me about Wright's behavior.

As for noise....Please forgive me for originally expressing an opinion on a discussion board. I humbly apologize for actually having an opinion about something.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:17 AM
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86. Yeah, yeah, Mr. Obama Fan Who Suddenly Likes Hillary.
Pardon me if I'm not convinced.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:21 AM
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87. Oh sorry....I forgot to apologize for trying to be fair minded about a Democrat who i don't support
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:45 PM
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65. When your head explodes.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:38 PM
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68. Oh that happened about 20 years ago...
Still picking up the debris
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:59 PM
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66. About the same time DU stops
imo.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:41 PM
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71. Its done - for the most part.
A few loud mouths like Beck Oreilly and Scarborough.

Oh...and Hilary will bring it up as often as she can.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:41 PM
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72. I feel your pain
K&R
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:44 PM
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73. The mainstream media needed a story after the MS primary to fill up time
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Blondiegrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:55 PM
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74. Yup. Check out the highlights of this AP story from today:
snippet:

The issue threatens the multiracial coalition that is crucial to Obama's hopes of becoming the first black president, and it has highlighted a gulf between white and black Americans on matters of church and religion. But interviews with more than two dozen Indiana and North Carolina voters Wednesday suggested Obama may have made the best of a bad situation, even if belatedly ...

... In fact, in a day of interviews with North Carolina and Indiana voters of all races and ages, Sharpe was the only one to raise the Wright issue without prodding. Virtually all the prospective voters knew details of the matter. But unlike TV and radio talk show hosts, they found it far less interesting than the candidates' positions on health care, gasoline prices and other kitchen table issues.




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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:05 AM
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76. WHEN you ask? When obama answers the three questions
that have been there all along. those three are: Why did he stay a member of the congregation? Why didn't he speak up earlier? And why did he reward Rev. Wright with a campaign position even after knowing of his comments?

obama said for the first time a few weeks ago that HAD pastor Wright NOT recently resigned as pastor of the church, he would have withdrawn. But that only reraised the same questions: Why didn't he act before the resignation? Then what happened? After knowing about some of these sermons and having serious problems with some of their messages, why did Obama still decide to appoint pastor Wright to his official presidential campaign religious advisory committee?(later obama resigned him). WHY NOW?

Until obama answered the three questions this should still me in the main stream media asking the questions until 3 answers are givien....

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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:42 AM
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89. Let me make it simple for you.....None of that matters. It's trivial.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:13 AM
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94. trivial? you mean to tell me that a man that sat on his ass for 16
years and heard this vile bigotry and racist statements by wright should not be held accountable for not speaking out against them when he first heard them and not wait until all this broke? I say this is important because it goes to obama's judgement and he is big on judgement right? So, I hope if you hear-see bigotry or racism you will speak up....
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:49 AM
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99. I put up with obnoxious aspects of many people I know -- Most do
Maybe you demand total uniformity of thinking with everyone you have some kind of relationship with. But life is more complicated than that, as are people.

Neither you nor I were in Obama's shoes all those years. But my hunch is that Obama formed a connection with Wright and the church for positive reasons, he let some of Wright's more problematic beliefs or statements slide...A lot of people do the equivalent all the time.

Get over it. Wright is not the vice presidential candidate, I'm sure Obama would not appoint him as Secretary of Anything or seek his political advice on anything. The guy's a pastor.

It doesn't matter.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:37 AM
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77. the media will keep pushing this until no one cares, if it pisses you off they consider it a story
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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:38 AM
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78. Funny how Obama supporters want this issue over
after only a day, but they keep bringing up Lewisnky from 10 years ago.
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PseudoIntellect Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:41 AM
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79. Hannity: No no, ya' see, I don't think this Wright thing is gonna go away.
OF COURSE NOT, you 'tard; you keep pushing Wright and Farrakhan 24/7!
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:51 AM
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81. It appears Rev. Wright polls better than Bush in a favorability rating

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24390690 /

A new poll says Bush — not Wright or Bill Clinton — is voters' main concern

WASHINGTON - Sen. Barack Obama’s ties to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright could hurt his presidential hopes. So could his comment about “bitter” small-town America clinging to guns and religion. And Americans might question Sen. Hillary Clinton’s honesty and trustworthiness.

But according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, the bigger problem appears to be John McCain's ties to President Bush.

In the survey, 43 percent of registered voters say they have major concerns that McCain is too closely aligned with the current administration.

By comparison:

36 percent have major concerns that Clinton seems to change her position on some issues (like driver’s licenses for illegal immigrants and the North American Free Trade Agreement, which her husband signed but which she now opposes)
34 percent say they’re bothered by Obama’s “bitter” remarks
32 percent have a major problem with the Illinois senator’s past associations with Wright and the 1960s radical William Ayers
27 percent have serious concerns that Bill Clinton would have too much influence on U.S. policy decisions if his wife is elected



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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:56 AM
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83. they won't and when wright is over with they will find something else to demonize democrats
this is the media that helped send us to war
the media that covered for abu gharib
the media that ignored the bu$h* crimes
the media that was 24/7 terry schiavo
this is a media with an agenda
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:57 AM
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84. never... hopefully.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:32 AM
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88. Nope. They won't. NOTHING ever dies in politics.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:58 AM
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90. The whores on NPR (Neocon Public Relations) ran a story focused SOLELY ON WRIGHT QUESTIONS asked to
Indiana voters. The voters kept asking about the issues, and the Neocon Public Relations whore kept going back to Wright over and over and over again.
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:55 AM
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92. Wright came up this morning again.
it won't stop.
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MediaBabe Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:08 AM
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93. Maybe when Rev Wright stops giving speeches?
Ya think Rev Wright's speeches may be the reason he is in the news? And Obama's speeches and news conferences about Rev Wright that keeps him there? Hmmm... Could be.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:33 AM
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95. I'm gonna kick this because I just turned on the TV and they're STILL AT IT!
Edited on Thu May-01-08 11:34 AM by Armstead
Idiot anchordope and idiot pundit and reporter.

"Hillary is going around talking about gas prices whiule Obama is still talking about Rev. Wright."


No. YOU JACKASSES are still asking and talking about Rev. Wright. If you weren;t such brainless assholes, you'd be talking about the differences between Obama's approach to gas prices and Hillary's.....Maybe, God forbid, you might ask Obama about that in your interviews with him.



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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:37 AM
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96. Because Reverend Wright is the REAL issue
If by real you mean the only way Hillary has a chance any more.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:42 AM
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97. Which media persons are effing Rev. Wright? Andrea Mitchell?
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:43 AM
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98. They're all effing us all with their obsessive compulsive disorder
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:41 PM
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100. It's all racial politics. No mention of Rev. Hagee... LOTS of mention of Wright's ACCENT.
"It's not just WHAT he said, it's the WAY he said it, in that angry,
flamboyant way we have come to expect from uppity, urban elites that
Obama, being black, must now disassociate himself from!

WILL he succeed?"
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:52 PM
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103. they wont... it gets ratings... even O'Reilly said it... Wright's ratings are thru the roof!
this is a big big big problem for Obama
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:25 PM
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104. It's a big, big problem for everyone
Edited on Thu May-01-08 03:26 PM by Armstead
Aside from my support for Obama and anger at what this is doing to his campaign, it is a larger issue of HOW STUPID the news media has become. And how Destructive.

I can live with Obama losing becauise peopel think he's too inexperienced, or his positions are wrong, or something else. But this kind of sideshow cuts off all reasonable consideration of politics in the larger sense.....It has even slipped below the level of dueling spin that used to characterize political coverage.

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:34 PM
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105. They won't- but what's impressive is that Wright's been out there and many of us knew
last summer and fall that this would end up as an issue.

Why is it an issue now, as opposed to then (when Obama was building up his support base, while getting kid glove treatment by corporate media)?

My surmise: it would have been easier for the Dems to pick what their strategists feared would be a sure winner come November, rather than be saddled with this baggage in the fall.

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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 05:38 PM
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107. In the real world, this is a coin purse as baggage
What is important? Someone's pastor or the fact that democracy and the environment and the middle and lower classes have been sold down the river for 30 goddamn years by both parties?

Let's argue about Hillary's hair color. That's about as important in the scheme of things.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:19 PM
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109. I agree with you
Edited on Thu May-01-08 06:20 PM by depakid
The deal is that Republicans (and DINO's and their corporate media sycophants) know full well that they cannot win a full and fair and rational debate about actual issues.

They lose every time- for the simple reason that their policies have proven to be failures, time and time again (and they're generally unpopular).

Hijacking the "debate" is how they win- not only elections, but fight after fight in Congress.

Here's an example of how it's gone most of my adult life (including on matters that I've prepared and given testimony on personally on state and local levels):

They Were Warned!

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/13858
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:32 PM
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110. When John McClain iniates War on Iran as President.....
Edited on Thu May-01-08 06:33 PM by Armstead
It'll be sad to look back and recall the days when Rev. Wright was the most important subject on the planet, according to the media.

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kmsarvis Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:42 PM
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106. Let them beat this big nasty horse till its dead.........
I actually think this makes things better for Obama in the long run. Just watch BBC World News until this passes.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 05:39 PM
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108. They're going to beat it until democracy is dead
Edited on Thu May-01-08 05:40 PM by Armstead
At this point, the impact on Obama matters less to me as much as the fact that it is driving an important election to the level of a 5th Grader.

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