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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 09:16 AM
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White House won't guarantee elections in November
http://seetheforest.blogspot.com/2004_07_01_seetheforest_archive.html#108941537052661734
White House Won't Guarantee Elections in November

Press Briefing by Scott McClellan
<http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/07/20040708-15.html>:

"Q On Ridge's security warnings, can the President today guarantee Americans that no terrorist attack can upset the U.S. elections this November, that they will go ahead as planned?

MR. McCLELLAN: Ann, I don't think anyone can make guarantees. But the full intention is to move forward and hold those elections. I don't know specific information related to election day or any other of the high profile events that we have coming up. What we can guarantee to the American people is that we will continue to take strong steps to make sure that we are doing a better job every day of protecting the homeland and enhancing protective measures in certain areas of the country. And we will continue waging the war on terrorism, on the offensive, to defeat the terrorists. That's what we will continue to do.

These are threats that we need to take seriously, and that's why it's important to keep the American people informed. "
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 09:18 AM
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1. The trap has been set
Who is going to take the bait? The media has.
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 09:19 AM
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2. WTF!?!?!?!?!
They are going to cancel the elections no matter what it seems...

"Q: On Ridge's security warnings, can the President today guarantee Americans that no terrorist attack can upset the U.S. elections this November, that they will go ahead as planned?"

"MR. McCLELLAN: Ann, I don't think anyone can make guarantees..."

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 09:26 AM
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3. October Surprise: Martial Law
Edited on Mon Jul-12-04 09:26 AM by zulchzulu
It's coming. Get ready to hit the streets.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 12:09 PM
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10. This is Why Bush* is Appealing Only to His Hardcore Base Now
He wants the help of the RW fundie militia types to put down any demonstrations
that may occur as * shitcans the Constitution to stay in power.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:45 PM
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16. The genie is out of the bottle now
With this rumor (that will only increase and spin out as Election Day gets nearer), the Bush administration may finally be seen for the utter failures of democratic values that they have been feigning somewhat effectively with the electorate.

I say we drill this story way into those that are either on the fence about voting for the Chimp or the Undecideds that have yet to grasp the importance of this election.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 02:29 PM
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18. Bad News for *: The militias would be on our side
The ONLY thing more precious than their guns is the Bill of Rights and Constitution. They would throw down with us.
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smb Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 10:13 AM
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23. Never Give A Man A Gun Unless You Know Where He's Gonna Point It
He wants the help of the RW fundie militia types to put down any demonstrations that may occur as * shitcans the Constitution to stay in power.

LOL -- the far-right reaction is that he'd better not try unless he wants to start the Second American Revolution.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 09:27 AM
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4. Uh - Scotty Boy, why can't Bush guarantee that the Constitution will be
followed - According to the Constitution, only Congress can change the date of a presidential election. Didn't Bush swear to uphold the Constitution?
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 09:29 AM
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5. If they cancel the elections, join me in a march on Washington.
If we wouldn't postpone elections for the CIVIL WAR of all things, why should a relatively minor act(compared the the Civil War, 9/11 was peanuts) stop our election?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 09:32 AM
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6. Say Whay You Want About The Israelis But They Ain't Wusses When It Comes
Edited on Mon Jul-12-04 09:32 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
To Terrorism.....

You don't hear them talking about cancelling elections...


Americans need to get a collective spine....
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 10:22 AM
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7. Rove is playing with fire - I am amazed that they let this out. Even if
if it gets shot down quickly - which I predict - it is going to be hard to cleanse the suspician from the public's mind that Bush is weak on holding elections on the scheduled date. Bush just lost a couple more percentage points that he won't be getting back. Heh.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 10:33 AM
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8. Look at some of the Freepers' posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1169396/posts?q=1&&page=1

Some are calling for dictatorship while some have the good sense to realize this could be a disaster.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:22 PM
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14. Its interesting to read how most of them
think this is a "liberal" conspiracy. Aside from that, most of them are saying the same things we are.
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Protected Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 09:57 PM
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22. This is too much...
Take newsmax with a grain of salt. It's not going to happen, this is liberal spin, see the above linked article.
What freeping world are these people leaving in?! NewsMax... Liberal? LOL.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 11:05 AM
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26. I was just going to post that myself.
Does that Freeping Moran really think NewsHax is Liberal?? Then he must think FAUX is the World Socialist Workers Review :scared:
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smb Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 10:16 AM
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24. It's A Conspiracy, I Tell You!
Its interesting to read how most of them think this is a "liberal" conspiracy.

Most of them think that traffic jams, Brood X cicadas, and the heartbreak of psoriasis are liberal conspiracies.

Aside from that, most of them are saying the same things we are.

Yeah; the ones who would support the Shrub on this are mostly the ones that even other FReepers think are nuts.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 10:40 AM
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9. I think it's up to the states. I don't think Executive branch can do much
about it.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 12:14 PM
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11. Why is it imperative to have elections in Afghanistan and Iraq...
while attacks are still going on yet the Nov election in the US may be postponed at the THREAT of an attack? I hope someone asks Scottie this question!
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:05 PM
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12. If they cancel the elections, the terrorists have won
and you know which terrorists I mean.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:08 PM
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13. Frankly I wouldn't put it past this white house to allow a terrorist
attack to occur just prior to the elections and in response "postpone" the elections.
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mdguss Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:35 PM
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15. This will never work:
I live in Maryland's second largest city (a suburb to D.C.), and we had a contested primary election for Mayor on September 11th. I said they should keep the polls open well into the night to allow everybody to vote (and really if another attack happend on an election day, that would be all we need). But Maryland law didn't provide for that. The election continued (some people couldn't get home because of traffic/transit problems), but most people voted anyway. Turnout was actually up over the previous GENERAL election held in 1997.

The election ended up being decided by 11 votes. They had a recount, everything went smoothly, and a local businesswoman beat the city councilwoman for the nomination. The businesswoman has went on to be our first female Mayor (and first Democrat in 12 years), and she has done a very good job as Mayor of our city.

So all in all, I say that the suspending an election is BS, and would cause a backlash. If we are fighting for our freedoms, we should never give up our most sacred freedom: the right to choose our leaders through elections.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 02:27 PM
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17. Weak Democrats let Bush get away with so much, so he thinks he is the king
Edited on Mon Jul-12-04 02:28 PM by Democat
This is how far we have let things get out of our control.

The president who wasn't even elected by a majority is threatening to cancel the election.

That's how weak our Democratic leadership has been for the last three years.

It's unbelievable.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 02:31 PM
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19. Have we forgotten our meme already?
Edited on Mon Jul-12-04 02:32 PM by Capn Sunshine
IF THE ELECTIONS ARE CANCELLED, THEN THE TERRORISTS HAVE WON"



Also:

"IF WE ARE ATTACKED, BUSH HAS FAILED US AGAIN"


SAY IT LOUD. REPEAT AS NECESSARY.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:06 PM
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20. It is NOT THE WHITEHOUSE who dictates when elections are or arent.
Anybody out in the media or in the Halls of Congress care to address that one?
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 09:20 PM
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21. If We Delay the Elections, Won't The Terrorists Have Won?

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smb Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 10:21 AM
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25. Even The Worst Case Would Be A *Local* Disaster
Taking a cold hard look at the matter, a terrorist attack would prevent most people in a few cities from voting. (If the entire country were that badly affected, the election would be irrelevant -- what's left of the population would be under long-term martial law.)

I've never heard of a national election being postponed because some region or other was being pounded by a hurricane, or whatever.
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AJ BENDER Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 11:14 AM
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27. Can You Spell R*E*V*O*L*U*T*I*O*N
Lincoln himself, who suspended most rights during the Civil was adamant on holding the 1864 elections.

If the Military-Industrial-Christian-Fascisto element wishes to suspend elections under any circumstances :

THIS MEANS WAR

:nuke:

And I... a pacifist non-violent type....will take it to the streets
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 11:15 AM
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28. This "mewzilla" person HAS to be a troll
Not even the Freeps could be that fucking insane. Actually begging for "Al Qaeda" to attack so the Idiot Son of an Asshole can be "pResident for life". But of course, the brainwashed FAUX trailer trash are so DUMB they can't see the obvious trolling.
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