We need Hillary Clinton........ NOW

[Hillary for Pres]

I am a big Kerry & Edwards fan. But as much as I hate to say it, they are just not exciting me at all this year. It's fun to be at their rally, hear the music, and see them come out, but they don't physically excite me to go home, and act. I need a Candidate who makes me want to walk door to door, register voters, and speak mainly on what they believe. Kerry isn't talking about health-care enough. He has no charisma. We need to make that one of the main issues this year, and there really is only one person that can do it. That's Hillary. I have come to accept that Kerry is and will be our nominee. Its exciting, because we all know Kerry himself is very Presidential. I am not yet convinced that he can rally our base, and get out our core votes. When women vote DEMOCRATS win! I want Kerry to win, because I want Bush OUT. But I am interested in knowing what those in this forum think will happen if Bush prevails, and we have a democratic Primary for 2008. It maybe far away, but the only two people I can think of would be Edwards and Hillary. And I don't believe on a moment that Edwards would be a more exciting candidate then Hillary. She has the most name recognition, and still will after this election. She can raise more money then anyone else, shes has been a fabulous Senator -- sponsoring many bills with members from the other side of the aisle. I almost believe the DNC is nervous allowing her to speak at the Convention this year. If you notice, she is the one name missing off of the roster. Although she has been there for how many years prior to this. I think it is a huge mistake to have left her off. I wouldn't be surprised if people started shouting out her name and chanting it at the convention. Hillary has got her own base and its called the Democratic Party. She has more full time staffers on her campaign staff (Friendsofhillary.com)year round, then does any other Member of Congress. She has her own PAC (HILLPAC.com) that easily competes with all of the leadership PAC's. There is one thing everyone will be saying at and after the Convention: We Want Hillary.

[Tweed]

1. The LAST thing we need is Hillary.

She is too polarizing.

[Sugarbleus]

37. I don't like Hillary lately. I do agree that Kerry is not very

stimulating. All of a sudden, Gore seems like the guy with the "fire in the belly". Maybe Kerry is saving his big grabber for the final lap. I sure hope so.

[vickie]

41. We do NOT need Hillary. The Clintons will then become

story of the convention - and Kerry/Edwards doesn't need that. There are plenty of women in the Dem party that will be represented on the stage. (Bill Clinton has a speaking roll, which is perfectly appropriate.)

Remember, the right wing press has a sick, twisted, pathological/psychological obsession/fixation with the Clintons that makes them see every political event in terms of the Clintons. This is pathetic and it must end if we are to move forward as a party. The right wing cable screamers and squawkers (and that's who's providing the most convention coverage this time around) would love nothing better than to have the story of the convention be about the Clintons and Hillary's future ambition. (And guess who that distracts from? The Kerry/Edwards ticket of course - which is the LAST thing Kerry needs!)

This convention needs to be all about the Kerrys, the Edwards and the Dems optimistic view for the future of the nation. And to do so, our party needs to turn the page!


Vickie Carter
Redondo Beach, CA

[West Coast Democrat]

2. It would be a Drudge/ O'Reilly dream come true!!!

[cprise]

3. What is this, Entertainment Tonight?

[SW FL Dem]

4. I disagree - we have a great ticket

and we need Hillary in the senate

[bigwillq]

5. I agree with your statement

Hillary's role is in the Senate, where she is fascinating to watch speak.

I also agree that we have a great ticket, a ticket I feel will appeal to more voters than if Hillary were on the ticket.

Hillary has plenty of supporters but she also has those people who despise her, more than Kerry-Edwards detractors.

[rasputin1952]

6. Just about the last thing we need right now...

is more dissention in the Dem Party. While the notion of Hillary running for president is fine with me, this is not the time to push for such a thing.

This would be a field day for the GOP, and almost guarantee a bush victory.

Kerry/Edwards is the team that will beat bush and the cabal from hell, there simply are no other options at this time. I will vote for Kerry/Edwards, as I hope all the rest of us here will do, as well, I hope 80% of the rest of the country will. I want to see bush crushed, not beaten, I want to see him sent back, kicking and screaming to Crawford, and Hillary cannot do that...Kerry/Edwards can...:D

[Hillary for Pres]

9. But I asked

I asked about Edwards in Hillary if bush prevailed. Not Hillary running this year. What do you think?

[rasputin1952]

31. I think Hillary is a remarkable person...

She is intelligent, well meaning, and a dyed-in-the-wool Dem, I love her to death. This is why the GOP despises her so, she is a force to be reckoned with, and being female, drives the neo-cons insane.

I think Hillary would make an excellent president, just as I think she is an excellent Senator...:D

[stinkeefresh]

7. "We need paragraphs..........NOW"

seriously. it'll improve your readership vastly.

[doctorbombeigh]

8. Love Hill, but... umm....

Why give the freakshow something else to whine about?

Her time is coming (if she's lucky), until then - she'll just have to wait.

[Hillary for Pres]

12. Her time is coming, if we are lucky.

If she's lucky? I think if we are lucky. We would be so lucky to have her in '08... just in time for when the GOP runs out of viable candidates. There guys will have slim to none name recognition. She maybe Polarizing, but all she needs to do is rally the base to win. She got more votes in NY then anyone would have ever thought.

[formernaderite]

28. Why would we need her in 08?

If Kerry Edwards win...they will be the nominees in four years. Personally and politically I can't stand Ms. Hillary....I'd love to see a woman or minority candidate but not one who rode someone elses wagon.

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24. check out this individuals profile

address 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue

LOL

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. God Help Us

If Dems are saying after ((((this)))) convention "We Want Hillary"....

[no name no slogan]

13. Um, we HAD the primaries already

And like it or not, Kerry won.

What's the big deal about Hillary, anyway? If her last name was just Rodham, she'd be a non-entity. Just another DLC corporatist Democrat who supported the war in Iraq and the Patriot Act. She's doing a great job representing her corporate constituents in the Senate-- leave her there.

[Hillary for Pres]

15. Thats total BS

That is such BS. Give her the credit she deserves. She has done just as much with her life as President Clinton. She was part of the team when he ran for president, and she still ran for Senate in the end. Read the book, and look how lucky he said HE was to marry her.

[no name no slogan]

17. You're assuming I LIKED Clinton, aren't you?

He's another corporatist DLC Democrat who helped lead this party down the road to ruin in the 90s.

Just look at the record: NAFTA, "Most Favored Nation" trade status for human rights abuser China, "Welfare Reform", "Defense of Marriage" act, support of murderous dictator Suharto in Indonesia, the health care "reform" debacle, no decrease in automobile pollution requirements,......there's more, but I don't have time to list them.

Clinton was the best Republican president we've had since Eisenhow. Hell, he even made Nixon look liberal on some things.

Hillary, the ex-Goldwater Girl, is cut from the same cloth. She's in the back pocket of the corporations, too. She'd fit right in to the Republican party of the 1970s, as would Bill Clinton.

We already have one corporate party in the Repubs. We sure as hell don't need another.

[Hillary for Pres]

18. I am sure very few democrats agree with what you are saying

about the Clintons and the road in the early 90's. snap into it. Why is Kerry running on Bill Clintons record?

[cprise]

22. On THIS board they do

Plenty of us here dislike the Clinton legacy, to put it mildly.

[jonnyblitz]

25. to put it VERY mildly. n/t

[no name no slogan]

30. Thanks.

Yeah, quite the "legacy" we got from him. We lost the House, the Senate and more governorships. And Democratic membership in state legislatures is at its lowest level since 1964.

With a "legacy" like that, it's no wonder we're not completely hammering the sh!t out of Shrub/Smirky by now.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

38. I Liked The Clinton Legacy....

No....


I loved the Clinton Legacy.....


Peace.... Prosperity.... A 3.9% unemployment rate... Appointment of center-left justices....... A genuine standing ovation for our leader at the U N.....


What's not to like?

[cprise]

40. Indifference... Suharto... Rwanda... No Thanks!

Oh, and if you can't get dark-skinned people to kill themselves by the millions with your weapons, then demand ownership of their power and water supplies.

At home, what didn't I like: DOMA, destructive Welfare "Reform", an insincere dog-and-pony show for universal healthcare, legalizing media monopolies, token oversight of Wall Street, an exploding prison population, and yes... sex scandals.

[Forkboy]

42. Yeah,but besides that

what was so bad about Clinton? :evilgrin:

[seasat]

14. Not insinuating anything about you Hillary for pres

You sound like a true Democrat but, I've noticed on other forums, obvious Repubs claiming that they are Democrats and Hillary is the one they would support. I like her and think she is a fine senator but the mere mention of her name fires up Repubs. It would rally their base like nothing else. I also think they are trying to push a split between Democrats.

One another point is I disagree about Kerry/Edwards. I like John Kerry. He was my second preference for our nominee and my wife's first. I think that after the 2000 election we tend to listen the Repub talking points and try to second guess ourselves. There is no perfect candidate. While Kerry doesn't have Clinton's dynamic speaking ability, his style is heads above the Shrub. He has broken all Democratic records in fund raising. He has a consistent record of environmental and consumer advocacy, foreign policy experience that puts Shrub to shame, a great legislative track record, and presents clear policy alternatives along with his criticism of Shrub. He is bypartisan in many of his dealing having good friends and working well with moderate Republicans like John McCain. I'm actually donating money to a presidential campaign for the first time in my life because of Kerry. He'll put respectability back in the White House and change the dangerous course our country is on.

[Hillary for Pres]

16. I am a true Democrat.

I am a true Democrat. I work for a Democratic Senator as well. But I respect your comments.

[Kahuna]

19. I Love Mrs. Clinton. She is a brilliant, gracious lady... But.... no!

It's not going to happen. Too bad though.

[blm]

20. This smells like yesterday's fish.

I notice you hit on all the wingnut talking points.

I highly doubt ANY big fan of Kerry and Edwards OR Hillary would post such tripe.

[blm]

21. That's what Zell Miller sez.

.

[Domitan]

23. From what I see

Hillary Clinton inspires more erections among the Right than among the Left.

[retread]

26. Hahahahahahaha!!! Subtlety isn´t your strong point is it?

*

[Lefty Pragmatist]

27. Hillary isn't the worst possible person to put in front of the tube.

Unfortunately, #1 is speaking in prime time at the convention (Teddy).

To be fair, #3 is also going to be blatting in Beantown (Teresa), so maybe Hillary does deserve inclusion as a sort of self-immolation hat trick.

Why does my party inevitably take a good opportunity and roll out the freakshow?

[Hillary for Pres]

49. haha, yes! you are right! teresa? I mean I cannot believe she is

addressing them

[oasis]

29. I believe Hillary should team up with Nader to win NOW. Thats' the ticket

that all lefties will immediately embrace. The Democrats missed the boat by not nominating her in the first place.

She should dump Bill after she gets in because he would try to hog the spotlight as usual.

[Hillary for Pres]

50. I agree they messed up not nominating her, but

she shouldn't team up with Nader.

[jab105]

32. uhhhhhhh.no.........

n/t

[question everything]

33. The House is still controlled by the pugs and President Kerry

will need all the help that he can get there. Leave Hillary Clinton there, for the time being. Also, she did promise her constituents that she would complete her term. You really do not need the William Safires of the world to talk about Hillary an habitual liar (or something like that)

[MichiganVote]

34. Grow up people

The Clintons are history. Their reign is O-V-E-R.

[AP]

35. Hilary would probably be the first person to tell you you're crazy.

She's way to polarizing right now to help Kerry.

And if you don't find Edwards exciting, Jack, you dead.

[ronnykmarshall]

43. I'll be the second!

This "Hillary Supporter" had a link to "Pro-Hillary" website that was full of links to RW crap.

NOW he has changed his profile link to go to Hillary's REAL campaign site. "Friends Of Hillary".

Now I ain't one to gossip .....

[Hillary for Pres]

47. it still goes to the same site

and always has forwarded. maybe it didnt forward the first time you clicked on it. who knows.

[counterpunch us]

36. agreed

[CWebster]

39. When asked if she had known then about bogus intel

what she supposedly didn't know then, but knows now, she claimed she would still vote to attack Iraq. That means there is blood on her hands.

She had her chance at bat and struck out. Now leave the field.

[Name removed]

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[sangh0]

45. Flame-bait

.

[Doosh]

46. she needs to speak at the convention

[Hillary for Pres]

48. Agreed.