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Thu Jul-22-04 12:28 PM
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"With Friends Like These . . . " -- Welcome, Sandy Berger! |
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For failing to disclose to the Kerry campaign that he was under criminal investigation for misshandling classified national security documents, Sandy Berger has earned a coveted spot on my "With Friends Like These . . . " list.
Other members of this exclusive club include:
1. Mayor Menino -- for publicly trashing John Kerry and for displaying extreme incompetence in failing to resolve years old labor disputes in time for the convention.
2. The picketing police unions -- for bullying Kerry into skipping a meeting with the national conference of mayors, and then rewarding him by threatening to picket the Democratic National Convention.
3. New York fundraiser Judith Hope -- for launching a very public a and highly critical personal crusade to give Hillary Clinton a prominent speaking role at the convention, even though a few well placed phone calls would have done the trick.
4. Donna Brazille -- for never missing an opportunity to provide highly critical, on-the-record remarks about the Kerry campaign. Sorry Donna, you had your chance in 2000. It's time to let it go.
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Thu Jul-22-04 12:30 PM
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1. Don't forget Mayor Ed Koch |
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Some members of OUR tribe are MORONS too.
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Thu Jul-22-04 12:43 PM
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Thu Jul-22-04 12:34 PM
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Edited on Thu Jul-22-04 12:35 PM by lancdem
The one question I have is, do we know Berger didn't tell the Kerry campaign? The reason I ask is, even Bill Clinton has known for months. It's possible he told them, but gave them the impression the investigation was over because no one from the FBI has interviewed him or contacted his lawyer for months.
Hey, if nothing else, this is good practice for Kerry in dealing with sudden developments that aren't exactly welcome.
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Thu Jul-22-04 12:36 PM
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This one is on Kerry. If he didn't know he should have known. The campaign needs another shake-up. They're too LAX.
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Thu Jul-22-04 12:38 PM
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6. Excuse me, but exactly HOW should Kerry have known? |
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Especially if Berger and his lawyer weren't talking?
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Thu Jul-22-04 12:37 PM
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5. All the reports I've seen indicate that the Kerry campaign was in the dark |
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I suspect that had the Kerry campaign known, Berger would have been discreetly dropped as a campaign adviser months ago.
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Thu Jul-22-04 03:22 PM
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I read that the lawyer said it wasn't supposed to be discussed. Even if Berger did tell the campaign, the campaign couldn't admit it because then Berger would have been talking about something he wasn't supposed to. Maybe that's why Berger isn't a paid consultant. And maybe that's why it was leaked now, to make it look like a leak ahead of the 9/11 commission so it will get buried between that and the convention.
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Thu Jul-22-04 12:34 PM
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3. Don't forget Donna's support of e-voting machines. |
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Thu Jul-22-04 12:46 PM
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8. You Forgot the Ultimate List Member |
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Thu Jul-22-04 12:53 PM
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...although Saint Ralph has gone so far over the deep end that it's hard to call him a "friend" anymore.
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Thu Jul-22-04 01:16 PM
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Edited on Thu Jul-22-04 01:19 PM by DoveTurnedHawk
Even though he hasn't done much of anything lately but cause trouble, IMO. You going to the Boxer event tomorrow night? :-) http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=141x1837DTH
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Thu Jul-22-04 04:40 PM
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14. Not sure, but thanks for the heads-up |
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If I can make it, I'll look for you there.
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Thu Jul-22-04 03:34 PM
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13. Taking the opportunity |
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to tell you I agree 100%.
As an aside DTH, I've got a joint county convention coming who might be interested in your recent project on foriegn relations we touched on a few weeks ago. If you get me something I'll print some up to take.
Julie
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Thu Jul-22-04 04:53 PM
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Zell to that list as well.
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Thu Jul-22-04 05:00 PM
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16. Well, I never considered Zell to be a "friend" |
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But sure, it's hard to think of any other "Democrat" who is working as hard to defeat Kerry as Zell is.
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Thu Jul-22-04 06:58 PM
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17. You sure Berger didn't tell the Kerry campaign? But I agree with |
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your list. Even if Berger did tell the Kerry campaign, he's on the list for doing something so stupid in the first place (whether it was intentional or accidental).
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Thu Jul-22-04 09:37 PM
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18. Well I never liked Berger anyway....so sour grapes or vindication? |
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Fri Jul-23-04 02:40 PM
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19. With DINOs like Lieberman and Miller, who needs Republicans? |
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Fri Jul-23-04 06:23 PM
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22. With misleading posts like yours, who needs the truth? |
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If you can't tell the difference between Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman, then you obviously haven't been doing your homework.
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Sat Jul-24-04 01:42 PM
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24. Thanks for the laugh! |
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I appreciate your sense of humor. :)
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Fri Jul-23-04 02:42 PM
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http://mediamatters.org/items/200407230001However it turns out, many at DU are pronouncing him guilty too soon.
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Fri Jul-23-04 02:50 PM
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21. Guilty or no is not really the point I don't think |
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He should not have kept the Kerry campaign in the dark as he (apparently) did.
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Fri Jul-23-04 06:23 PM
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23. He is guilty -- of screwing John Kerry |
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