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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:56 PM
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419 to 2 - House prohibits election delay!
Score another one for our side. Their tepid trial balloon, which they quickly declared an orphan, has been stepped on and popped.

The two congressmen who voted against the resolution were Reps. Brian Baird, D-Wash., and Scott McInnis, R-Colo.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-07-22-election-terrorism_x.htm

Who the heck is Brian Baird and what is he doing voting for delays??
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:58 PM
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1. EXCELLENT
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 03:59 PM
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2. The dissenters didn't vote FOR delays.
They voted against outlawing them.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:09 PM
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3. Isn't that just as bad?
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:10 PM
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4. You must've received an A in reading comprehension as a kid.
Gold star for you.

Of course, I still think their vote was wrong, though...

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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:11 PM
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5. McInnis, thankfully, is retiring
He's already a bad nutjob.

John Salazar is taking over and he's a Dem - an easy 3rd CD takeover.

Hawkeye-X
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Wabbajack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 08:50 PM
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15. Easy
In a district that went for *?
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:17 PM
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6. Now that everyone is
happily assured the election will occur on schedule, do you really think it will be free, fair, and honest?

Not to mention, as I've been saying over and over for a year or so, Kerry has vulnerabilities that will be (that are being) exploited to the fullest by the Bush re-election cabal. (Don't get me wrong: the same applies to every other person running for the nomination, it's just the specific vulnerabilities that differ.) And of course, we still have Fox news and all the other "mainstream" news organizations that really don't hold Bush's feet to the fire the way they should.

I'm not incredibly optimistic.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:25 PM
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8. Can you pretend?
Re: I'm not incredibly optimistic.

They are running out of ammo over there. No delaying the election. Terror alerts getting called "politicized." Iraq war a mistake. Bush now viewed as a strong mis-leader. They are quickly withering down to just the Kool Aid drinkers.


We're winning - I sincerely hope you can enjoy it.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 12:48 AM
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16. Listen very carefully.
The idea that the election could be postponed or even cancelled has been put out there, and it didn't fly. Which means that the cabal realizes they have to let the election go ahead as scheduled. So they need to manipulate things within the time frame of a scheduled election. So they have to work between now and November 2nd to make the "election" go to George W.

Kerry needs to be thoroughly discredited (from their point of view). And they're doing a good job of it so far, aided by Kerry's own disinclination to take them on properly. He doesn't really strike back at them as hard as he should. Every single time he's out in public he should have yet another vet whose life he saved, to show up the important difference between him and Bush regarding serving in the military.

I feel so helpless, because I can see so clearly several ways the election can be stolen and no one really notice, unless they are looking very closely. Do not for one moment think these people will go quietly into that good night. They came to power in a coup, and will not leave without a struggle.

Just because the election occurs on November 2nd as it should does not mean we will win. They're trying to lull us into a false sense of security.
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Johnyawl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:23 PM
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7. Brian Baird is a congressman from a swing district...
Edited on Fri Jul-23-04 04:23 PM by Johnyawl
...that went from bleeding heart liberal (Joleyn Unseld) to fundy fruit bat (Linda Smith).

Baird's a nice moderate Democrat that should be able to hang onto that seat for a good long time. That answers the first part of your question. As to why he would vote to allow delays, I don't have a clue. Did they just draw lots and have one from each party vote against it, for some obscure reason? There's nothing in the local news,(so far) abouit the vote, much less his rational for voting agaisnt it.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:26 PM
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9. thanks for that info
I guess I expected to see 2 repubs against it, not a mix.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:28 PM
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10. Doesn't mean a damn thing friend
If another attack happens in the days before the election, Bush will go to code red, declare martial law for the next week or more, and all the good little sheeple will go BAA BAA.

This vote is simply window dressing to pacify the sheeple after their trial balloon riled up the herd. Martial law trumps all, including the election. And remember, somewhere upwards of 2/3 of the sheeple believe, nay even want martial law to be declared if there is another attack.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:40 PM
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12. Oh yes it does friend
Nice try at whiping the smile off my face. The trial balloon was crushed, even by GOP. Look at the quotes from Repugs.

I'm sorry but martial law nationwide just aint gonna happen. Never has happened and never will. Kerry is going to win and he is going to the Whitehouse. We will all have to get used to not being underdogs anymore.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:35 PM
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11. Statement from Baird's office
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:43 PM
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13. Who are the two capital "N" Nazis?
who voted for an election delay?
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:50 PM
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14. oooh.... I just got a good political dark future story idea...


I'll start with the title, "The Caretaker"

Let's say its the year 2016... after having the last two presidential elections disrupted by terrorist attacks... Congress, the Executive and the Judicial agree to form an emergency "Caretaker Government" that would step in with executive powers in the event of a major terrorist attack that disrupted our election cycle. Ideally this caretaker government is 'bi-partisan' but in a very 911 Commission 'can't we all get along type of way.'

Late October, early November 2016: Several terrorist attacks disrupt the election and it is postponed three months. The Caretaker Government is installed in January 2017.... that is when the story would begin.
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