Andrew Sullivan has endorsed Kerry?

[ButterflyBlood]

is this true? I've heard his latest article is called something like "Kerry: The Right Choice for Conservatives"

[David Dunham]

1. I think you are right due to the gay marriage issue.

[coloradodem2005]

2. Who is Andrew Sullivan?

[vi5]

3. He was an editor of the New Republic for a while....

One of these social liberals but fiscal/military conservatives who manages to find everything wrong with liberals and very little wrong with Conservatives.

He's gay so gay rights and gay marriage are his one area of focus in his writing.

He gained notoriety when a few years back he lambasted the gay community for their sexually reckless lifestyle but then was caught placing ads in gay personal pages looking for some....er...interesting stuff.

At least I think that is the deal

[charlyvi]

9. In addition to the gay rights issue

He thinks Bush* is incompetent--no peace plan for Iraq mainly. At least that's what he rants about some days. Other days he gushes over shrub as though * could walk on water. I think Sullivan is a devout Catholic too, if that makes any difference.

His blog is here:

http://www.andrewsullivan.com/

[fujiyama]

4. WTF?

Are you serious? He's been a big cheerleader for Bush, especially on the war.

God, this is getting to be bizzare, but I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. He was really pissed about the gay marriage amendment.

[w13rd0]

5. He has been disillusioned for a while...

...didn't know he was disillusioned enough to endorse Kerry though.

[salonghorn70]

6. Here Is What Sullivan Has Said

Doesn't sound like an endorsement to me.
http://www.advocate.com/html/stories/920/920_sullivan.asp

[nightperson]

7. Recently he has said:

"My only dilemma now is whether to support Kerry or sit this one out."

In your article he says "Yes, Kerry is by far the lesser of two evils."

In light of Sullivan's foreign policy beliefs, I call this a "neo-endorsement" ;-) .

[dsc]

8. Here is some stunning illogic

Stirring stuff—and right. But—and here’s the nub—all of this was said in the context of Kerry opposing marriage equality. He was as clear in that speech as he is today: “I am not for same-sex marriage. I have said that publicly. I would not vote for same-sex marriage.” In other words, Kerry’s opposition to our right to marry is potentially more damaging than Bush’s, because it clearly cannot be ascribed to bigotry or prejudice or pandering to the far right. Of course, Kerry has never explained exactly why he opposes marriage rights for gays. His first attempt was that gay marriage wasn’t procreative, but he soon dropped that argument. But no new argument has taken its place. All Kerry says now is that he simply personally believes that marriage should be reserved for straights. Twice, if necessary, as his own civil divorce attests.

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I always prefer bigots to non bigots. (sarcasm) What an utter crock. He is such a hypocrite.

[Alex146]

10. Sullivan seems like a good guy to me

I was writing a paper on how republicans talk tough about states rights but really don't care. Any way I found an article in time by Sullivan which was saying exactly what I was thinking, that Bush was bad for small government Conservatives etc. At least he stands behind his beliefs which is more than can be said for most in the conservative media. Most of them would rather jump of a bridge then admit the republican party could do anything wrong.

[troublemaker]

11. The man is crawling shit

You can find an article by him on just about any position, so one frequently sees Sullivan stuff one agrees with, but he's a dishonest asshole.

[nightperson]

12. OK, I wasn't up to date, here's that new article,

some freeper fallout, etc..

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. They're Animals....

NT

[Classical_Liberal]

14. The neocons view Bush as a sinking ship and are casting lots

with Kerry, who is pandering to them mightily. Kerry's Presidency will just be a recalibrated neocon administration. Mark my words.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. You'd Have To Define Neocon...

Madeline Albright and Richard Holbrooke have Kerry's ear on foreign policy....


I have much faith in their decision making....

[Classical_Liberal]

16. So does the pnac. Will Marshall member of the PNAC, Kerry's foriegn

policy speech writer, and head of the New Democrats think tank has Kerry's ear too.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. I Don't Like PNAC

but I thought Madelaine Ablbright and Richard Holbrooke are sound foreign policy makers who are able to the balance the national interest with a healthy respect for the interest of other nations...

[Classical_Liberal]

18. His foriegn policy statements and positions show more influence from

Marshall. He supports staying in Iraq, he supports the settlers and the wall in Israel, and is opposed to Hugo Chavez and in favor of replacing him with conservatives. It is worth getting rid of Bush, but I am not deluded that Kerry is going to do anything to challenge the pnac. The most disturbing sign of Kerry's lurch toward neocon foriegn policy is Sullivan and TNR's support for Kerry.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. We Should Turn Over Iraq To The UN

and work to stabilize it...


I am in favor of the wall in Israel as long as it is on the Israeli side of the Green Line...

[Classical_Liberal]

20. Kerry is in favor of the wall even if it is not on the green line

and said the ICJ decision that Israel should not be building it on the West bank was "regrettable and harmed the prospect of peace"

Also if Kerry and Bush don't agree to stop kissing Sharon's ass, the UN should not agree to clean up America's mess in Iraq.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. I'm Not A Huge Sharon Fan...

And it's going to take a generation to stabilize Iraq....


Either Iraq will break up into three nations; a Kurdish one, a Shia one, and a Sunni one or it will be held together by a strong man like Saddam...


That's what happen when you let ideologues make foreign policy.....


The father of conservatism , Edmund Burke, said "we must take man as he is not the way we want him to be'... Bush's cabal is certainly not conservative...

[no name no slogan]

24. Unfortunately, the neoCons all used to be Wilsonian liberals

...who just got more hawkish over time. Albright, who supported the sanctions in Iraq, and supported the airstrikes on the pharma plant in Sudan, is only a couple of shades to the left of the neoCons like Marshall.

Albright has spoken out in favor of using force to achieve our foreign policy goals. She's been a strong supporter of Sharon and the Zionists, and has opposed the rights of Palestinians to their own state using the 1949 borders.

Albright is often portrayed as this great shining liberal hope of foreign policy, but her views are not too far off from the "New Internationalism" of the AIPAC/DLC/PNAC crowd. Some of the statements she's made are downright frightening, IMHO. :scared:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. Woodrow Wilson Wanted To Make The World Safe For Democracy...

There is nothing with using force in humanity intervention but only after all peaceful attempts have failed and then that force must be used judiciously...


I'm proud of what NATO and the Americans did in Kosovo and Bosnia....



Madelaine Albright supports the right of Israel to exist as do most Americans... I doubt she's a big fan of Sharon....


As for the borders she's taken the tradition American line that the borders will be the result of the agreement between the Israelis and the Palestinians...

[no name no slogan]

26. Yes, safe for *our* kind of Democracy

Wilson wanted to make the world safe for nice, American-style Democracy, but opposed the home-grown variety that sprung up in places like Haiti, the Dominican Republic, and Nicaragua, all countries that were occupied at one time or other by American troops during his term.

It was this same kind of mentality that overthrew the (social-democratic) Arbenz government in Guatemala in 1954, the Mossadegh government in Iran in 1952, the Sukarno government in Indonesia in 1965, the Allende government in 1973, and got us involved in the wars in El Salvador and Nicaragua in the 1980s. It has also led us into our current follies in Venezuela with Chavez, too.

As long as the "rights" of big American corporations were protected from local control by the people who lived in each country, "democracy" was encouraged.

But as soon as a leader steps forward and demands that the resources of the country be used to enrich its citizens (instead of big multinationals, supported by the US government), the country is no longer "democratic", and new leadership is "installed" by the US (or its proxies) so that the nation's resources can continue to be plundered for the benefit of the wealthy.

Unfortunately, the US has a long tradition of doing this abroad, whether it has been in the best interest of our country or not. Albright has been of the same mind as the other "New Internationalists" who believe "democracy" can only come about when a laissez-faire economy that rewards the rich and privatizes a country's resources is present. If there's ANY sort of resistance to an American-style WTO-dictated "free market" economy, it is quickly quashed, and a more suitable leader is "installed".

Most Americans (Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative) don't even realize that it's this kind of "New Internationalism" which makes our government one of the most hated among the inhabitants of the world. We are suckered into believing that the "only" way to achieve political and economic justice is to impose our model on the rest of the world, whether citizens demand it or not.

Unfortunately, Kerry/Edwards are both adherants of this "New Internationalism", which has caused this country more difficulty than any "communist threat" ever did. As long as we keep following this policy, we will remain a target for every terrorist organization on the map.

[mitchtv]

22. Horse Sh*T

voted against the DOMA- always a friend of gays. He wisely is trying to avoid the issue, for DOMA issue I give him a pass, this time cause the alternative is too scary to comprehend. Go somewhere else to trash our Candidate.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. He's Referring To Kerry's Foreign Policy...

On domestic issues Kerry's fine and I have no problem with his center left foreign policy...


I wish he'd support gay marriage and full equality for gays in the military but you have to be sensitive to the political climate....


If you don't win you can't govern....