As Race Turns Hot, What About Dean's Collar?

[Zomby Woof]

As the Race Turns Hot, What About Dean's Collar?
By Rick Lyman, New York Times, Saturday January 3, 2004.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/03/politics/campaigns/03TEMP.html

Would Howard Dean's temper be a drawback in a race against President Bush? The closest that Howard Dean has come to truly exploding in public anger during his presidential campaign, top aides say, was at a network television interview after a rally in Boston this fall. When a local news crew tried to muscle its way into the interview, its cameraman banged into someone in the network crew.
Dr. Dean "stopped the interview and started yelling at the guy," said Bob Rogan, who was deputy chief of staff when Dr. Dean was governor of Vermont and is now a top official in the campaign.

That Howard Dean has always had a temper is beyond dispute. He mentioned it himself in an essay he wrote for his high school yearbook. And stories abound from his days as governor of his snapping at Statehouse reporters or blowing up at political opponents.


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I don't know about you all, but I am not thrilled at having an ill-tempered, hot-headed commander-in-chief.

This isn't about being "angry because we want our country back". This isn't about an occasional flare-up.

This is a lifelong problem of his, Dean even noted himself in his high school yearbook!

Howard Brush Dean III has no business being President of the United States. We need to replace the pinhead in there now, but not with a hothead prone to violent outbursts and putting his foot in his mouth.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

1. Kucinich is the best candidate!

Kucinich has been consistently anti-war, pro-peace, and strong on national defense! That's the kind of person we need in the White House. Go DK!!!

[molly]

2. We need an adult in the WH - not a child prone to

temper tantrums.

[babzilla]

3. dupe

posted a mere hour ago. The cycle is really revving up. troof out.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=56450

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

4. He yelled at somebody?!

You're right! He's a hothead and has no business running for President!



And here's another one with an anger management problem:

Kucinich criticized Koppel during Tuesday's debate for beginning with a question about Al Gore's endorsement of Howard Dean. Later, he was angered when Koppel asked whether he, Braun or Sharpton are ''in this as sort of a vanity candidacy."

http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-prez12.html




The horror!

[Zomby Woof]

6. Bush is the pinhead

Dean is the hothead. Get my designations straight. ;-)

There are many more compelling reasons he should not be president, but I like doing one at a time. I posted a litany of them in one thread some weeks ago, and it caused lots of chaos for our viewers at home. ;-)

[XanaDUer]

10. Yeah

It really is better to dissect and examine this stuff bit by bit. It's like a jigsaw puzzle, the whole picture becomes clearer as each piece is added.

:hi:

(LC hunting and pecking typing due to pain)

[Zomby Woof]

23. take it REAL easy

Use your toes to type if you must! :hi:

[arewethereyet]

5. wants to raise taxes, hotheaded guy who adlibs horrible gaffes

yeah, this is the guy to beat Bush alright.

picture the headline in Le Monde when Chirac gets him pissed off over something. he'll get barbecued by real polititians, even hacks like Bush. Cripes he gets shown up by everyone but Clark in debates.

People see this, when it comes time to decide, they'll remember.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

7. Let's say Chimp cut taxes to zero.

If Dean raised them to 1% he'd still be an evil taxraiser, right?

[arewethereyet]

27. to John Q Public, yes

the right is very successful at this game mon ami you can be blythe about it if you want but their tactics are tried and true.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

8. I don't believe the "gaffes" thing

I can't stand Dean, but I don't buy this "gaffes" thing. Dean may be a corporate whore (and I think he is) but he's no more blunt than your average Democrat.

[Desertrose]

9. you know, if that was the only photo of Dean

with his angry face, I mean , sure ...we all get pissed sometimes...I mean the way the world is nowdays & all...but crikey....I have seen too many photos and even seen him in action televised- not live. I tell you...the expression on his face sometimes is just...well, unsettling is the nicest word I can think of......

I just don't see how Dean will maintain as the nominee let alone Pres ( but IMHO -he won't get that far)

:shrug:

Peace
DR

[XanaDUer]

12. Lol!

It looks like steam will start coming out of his ears sometimes, does it not?

I wonder if he has high blood pressure..?

[Desertrose]

18. Man when I get that het up

I give myself a dang headache...maybe thats his problem...poor guy has a temper headache all the time.....or maybe it is high bp...yikes!

:wink:

Peace
DR

[BlueEyedSon]

11. You have no business telling anyone what to replace

anything with.
Thank you.

[Desertrose]

13. but this is a message board where we all get to

share our opinions out in public, right?

Like gee, who the heck is gonna listen to a bunch of damn liberals anyway...except maybe other liberals...


Peace
DR

[XanaDUer]

15. He has as much right as anyone to voice an opinion

as anyone else here.

It's Democratic Underground, after all.

[molly]

17. Last time I looked at OUR Bill of Rights - yep - each person

has a right to free speach.

[Zomby Woof]

24. I don't?

So you have business telling me I have no business? :crazy:

[Brian_Expat]

14. It seems to me the thing that matters are his COATTAILS

And those are much broader, longer, and Republican-defeating than Kucinich (who is a niche candidate with no chance to win the nomination, let alone the general election).

And that anger certainly helped gay people during the Vermont civil unions debate when "moderate" Democrats abandoned him, figuring he was "finished."

Where was DK in the Vermont civil unions race?

[Desertrose]

26. huh?

"niche candidate"....there's a new one...my my, how creative eveyone is getting with labels for Dennis......

Uhmm.... that was a state issue and Kucinich, just in case you aren't aware...is from the state of Ohio.

Peace
DR

[madfloridian]

16. Dupe and he should have gotten mad. Justified anger.

There is a time for anger.


QUOTE..."its cameraman banged into someone in the network crew.
Dr. Dean "stopped the interview and started yelling at the guy," said Bob Rogan, who was deputy chief of staff when Dr. Dean was governor of Vermont and is now a top official in the campaign...."

[XanaDUer]

20. There is a time for anger

and a time for cool , calculated planning.

Did the cameraman bump or bang the other person on purpose?

What does yelling do to help?

As a doctor, asking if the bumpee needed medical assistance would have been better than yelling.

[curse10]

25. exactly!

was it really necessary to yell?

I think not.

[Desertrose]

21. being angry is one thing...but its how

you deal with it & use it.

Losing your temper completely and taking it out on others....sorry-NOT acceptable for a man who wants to be the PRESIDENT of an entire country for chrissakes!

We are looking at him as a leader....right?

Peace
DR

[eileen_d]

19. So when are they reprinting the essay from his yearbook?

Ha ha... I wouldn't go so far to say that Dean's temperament disqualifies him to be president; however, I think his "internal censor" could use some tuning up.

[babzilla]

22. hotheadedness or a tendency to speak his mind?

also from that article

Now, as the Iowa caucuses approach and he shoulders the relentless scrutiny that comes with being the candidate in the lead, Dr. Dean's opponents in the Democratic field are jumping on every wayward off-the-cuff remark, trying to make his temperament an issue. They are questioning whether he has the judgment to be president, and trying to feed the impression that he is a man with lots of anger, an attribute that repels many voters.

His displays of temper are of a kind with political blunders he has made during the current campaign: in either case, they stem from what aides concede is an occasional tendency to speak his mind too quickly.

I like it when the candidate tends to speak his mind too quickly, it shows that he is not afraid to say what he is really thinking.

I'll take that anyday as opposed to those that feel it necessary to couch their words in nicely turned phrases in an attempt to be inoffensive to any who would find it adventageous to jump on all remarks, off-the-cuff or not.

I love that you chose the image from the cover of this months National Review to illustrate your post. Its perfect for the message you are trying to sell.

Kucinich supporters and National Review unite, strange bedfellows indeed.

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29. Dupe

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