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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:35 PM
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Will the GOP glean 'bush* bashing' soundbites from tonight's magnificence?
The media (i.e. GOP) spent the better part of the day setting up their 'Dems are bush bashing' talking points.

What a shock for them when all references to bush were oblique - was his name mentioned by any of our powerhouses tonight?

If they do use soundbites they'll have to explain to viewers how the particular clip IS bashing bush.

I can't wait to hear people start saying bush wants to continue giving Bill Clinton tax cuts.

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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:49 PM
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1. Its a really good point
Our speakers trashed them but didn't give them much to attack. Masterfully done.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:07 AM
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2. Worse for them
Most of the negatives against Bush were said in factual tones, rather than as attacks, so playing the soundbytes could even backfire, making people think about the facts.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:10 AM
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3. The only way they can...
...is to either lie, and just make shit up (which they've not hesitated to do before), or play actual clips, which reasonable people will not be outraged by unless they think the "unnamed target" of the attacks actually is 'worthy' of the attack.

As you said, they'd have to explain, and the explanation would give rise to questions, and the questions they most certainly don't want answered.

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ChipperbackDemocrat Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:25 AM
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4. The GOP "Truth Squad" Just Learned What The Truth Is.
Edited on Tue Jul-27-04 12:25 AM by ChipperbackDemocrat
Ed Gillespie has nothing to hit, and deep down he knows it. Jimmy Carter calmly and cooly hit them. Al Gore was classy, cool and on message. Bill Clinton was Bill Clinton and the GOP couldn't beat Bill if they lives depended on it.

I especially enjoyed Clinton because he got right to the derma of why the Republicans have to beg, borrow,lie, cheat and steal.

The Republicans MUST SELL HARD, because their product is a lemon, and they know it.

I'm listening to the Right-Wing Dead-Wrong All-Stars (Hannity, Coulter, Scarbourough, O'Reilly, Pillbaugh, Tucker Carlson, Brittney Hume) all get to the spin cycle going.

This week is the show, but the all the way to November 2nd is the fight. If we all do our jobs, it will not matter how much spin they run. It won't matter how many negative ads they run. They will have to buy a billion preprogrammed Diebold machines, because straight up on the issues, they lose.

The best defense against Diebold? Total Repudiation From Maine to Maui!!!!!


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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 01:06 AM
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5. Right Wing Dead Wrong All Stars - so hilarious! What excellent
analysis for your '1 posts.' Welcome to DU!

:hi:
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ChipperbackDemocrat Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 07:48 AM
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6. This is actually my third post now (a.k.a. Chipper's Morning Rant)
Edited on Tue Jul-27-04 07:50 AM by ChipperbackDemocrat
The vast right-wing conspiracy fried the harddrive on my other computer so I had to get a new name and a new password :(

When I can find Post #1 I'll reprint it.

I like this username my nickname fused with my politics.

After years of despair, disappointment and being in the wilderness I've decided to come back and fight for my party and and what we truly believe than withdraw and allow the Democrats to slouch further to the cheap-labor Gommorrah that the Republicans want to build.

I voted for Nader in 2000 because I respected him and always have, but there is no way in hell I'll do that in 2004. Its a moral imperative to have George W. Bush back in private life. John Kerry has his flaws, the platform has its flaws, but those flaws can be worked out. The flaws of the GOP and their agenda is so rigid and untenable that it must be replaced.

What President Clinton said in his speech should be the drumbeat of our campaign against the Cheap-Labor Conservative.

"They need a divided America, we don't.

To me that was the line of the evening, and I dare the Right-Wing Dead-Wrong All-Star Team to dispute it. They can't and they know it. They know they need to pit American against American. They know they need to pit white against black, men against women, straight against gay, young against old, white collar against blue collar.

They have to act as the scene in Star Wars suggest..

"Fear will keep the local systems in line..."

I am watching Garrison Kellior on CSPAN right now...and he being asked why Democrat?

Here's my answer to "Why Democrat"?
Because as a lad growing up in Nebraska (a state that is heavily Republican)

1. Every Republican administration that has stayed in the Governor's mansion in my Nebraska has engaged in deficit spending while at the same time cutting social services, cutting education to hell and gone, and been the best friend Big Agribusiness has ever had at the expense of backbone of our agriculture, the family farm.

Every Democratic administration that has stayed in the Governor's mention in my Nebraska has paid its bills, built surpluses, and at the same time got roads built, schools on the right footing, and actually have been an ally to farmers instead of an ally to Big Agribusiness.

2. The Republicans have to pit urban against rural to win.
The Democrats built coalitions that stretch from Omaha and Lincoln west to the Panhandle to win elections, and more importantly to build a better state.

3. Omaha's Democratic Mayors: Expanded public safety with community support. Became an advocate for building up the urban centers and rallied for the city in the Unicameral and in Washington. Fought for expanding the educational, housing and political process in my hometown since the 1970s.

Omaha's Republican Mayors: Dismantled community policing. Dismantled cooperation between the mayor and the city council. Became advocates against building up the urban centers. Became advocates for big money politics and for business interests for whom Omaha begins in the suburbs. Engaged in division politics pitting working class against middle class, urban against suburban.

Voting Republican to me is 100% untenable.

It's against my economic interest. I work for a living. I invest. I save, but I'm not in the top 1% by any means. When they say "tax cut" they aren't refering to me. Now when they say "we're against Big Government" they are referring to me, because they want Government smaller Just for me

Whenever you hear a Conservative say, "we're against Big Government", remember.

Halliburton, Carlyle Group, ChoicepointDBT, ABT, Rockwell, Lockheed Martin, Bechtel, the airline industry, and really remember The Department of Homeland Security (a.k.a. KGBAmerica)

They want Government bigger for themselves.

Voting Republican is against my social interest. I support the rule of law and that no American shall be denied equal under law.

The are willing to ignore the Constitution (Patriot Act) and ignore the rule of law (support of racial profiling, "minimum mendatory sentences" the drug war, "Defense of Marriage")

They are willing to engage in a rollback of civil rights and call those "Traditional American Values" (opposition to voting rights, opposition to affirmative action, changes to access to fair housing, capital and education)

Voting Republican goes against my moral compass. I do not believe offensive preemptive violence. They do and they'll lie to exercise that belief. I do not believe in being brave with another man's body. They find it easy to be brave with another man's body.

They say Bring It On!
But where were a lot of them when they were called to Bring It On?

I do not belive in using the word of the Lord and Saviour of my life as a political blunt weapon. Whenever I see the Republicans singing hymns and swaying with those modern-day Christian Coalition Pharisees like Jerry Falwell, Pat Robinson and those Bob Jones University type people, it make me want to do what Jesus did when he saw the money changers in the temple.

I do not believe in using discrimination and half-truths start wars, bred fears and enhance their own fortunes. They have no problem doing these things.

When you get right down to it, our opposition calls us unpatriotic, but issue for issue they are truly opposed to the American way.

Our opposition is truly the "Sunshine soldiers and springtime patriots," that Thomas Paine talked about. Rather than build a country together, they'd rather build their own fortune separately.

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