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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 08:45 PM Original message |
An answer to the "why are all the black people voting for Obama" question |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. An excellent post. K&R. |
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BlueCaliDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
130. I second that motion - Positively EXCELLENT. K&R too. |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. Excellent OP! |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. Where does this little factoid come from, Iowa? |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Look at the 2004 Democratic primary results |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
52. What about"88, what about 2008? What is this 99% number? Is it some sort of |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:43 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. please don't call me fuckhead |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:50 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Can't answer the question? Didn't think you would even try. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. okay you're not a dumbass |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 05:34 AM Response to Reply #3 |
73. heh, couldn't resist, huh? |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #73 |
141. Couldn't resist calling out outright lies, is that what you mean? |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #141 |
190. outright lies, according to you. |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #190 |
193. Show me where this is the truth with links, guesses or exagerrations. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #193 |
196. I'm trying to figure out what you have a problem with about this statement. |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #196 |
201. white candidates have gotten 99% of the white primary vote where black candidates were also running |
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Connonym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:41 AM Response to Reply #3 |
83. have you ever even BEEN to Iowa? |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #83 |
144. Do you have a clue what you are talking about? I am questioning the paragraph from the OP, |
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Connonym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #144 |
199. yes I know what I'm talking about, do you? |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 01:17 AM Response to Reply #199 |
202. No, I used Iowa because that is where Obama won, so to the OP, I was showing that it is |
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Connonym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 01:51 AM Response to Reply #202 |
203. My apologies for misinterpreting your post |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 02:50 AM Response to Reply #203 |
205. no problemo. |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
4. This post makes entirely too much sense for GDP |
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frickaline (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
6. While this may be true of some, to make a generic, blanket statement about why a group voted the |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I don't think anyone is assuming that I am referring to entire black community |
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frickaline (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. I guess it must have been when you said: |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. That's why I put that in quotes |
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Voltaire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 07:09 AM Response to Reply #9 |
94. I applaud your post |
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jonestonesusa (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 09:35 AM Response to Reply #6 |
114. Why don't you try addressing the arguments |
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JustAnotherGen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
7. Excellent points Effie! |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
8. Sometimes people just vote what they know with no undertones or |
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GetTheRightVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
10. HRC gets the white older working class people |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
11. Great post Effie. Rec'd n/t |
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FlyingSquirrel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
14. I find it annoying when they show exit polls on CNN |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. That's one of my great pet peeves, as well |
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JustAnotherGen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:06 PM Original message |
Excellent point |
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MindMatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:29 PM Original message |
Me too |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
37. You are so right - I forgot about that! |
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retread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 04:43 AM Response to Reply #14 |
71. It reminds me of the days when public restrooms were labeled-- "men"," women", and |
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crankychatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
16. Perfect Post - I don't think we're worth educating BUT it's a necessary evil - n/t |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. :-) |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
17. I Still Haven't Seen Any Consistent Criticism of the Black Vote For Obama |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I think it's a matter of perspective |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Well, I Gotta Ask You, Then |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. I knew it was only a matter of time before YOU showed up with your b.s. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. And So Are You, My Friend |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 01:30 AM Response to Reply #32 |
66. Clintons using the GOP playbook |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. One of the problems we have is we have broken everything down |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 01:19 AM Response to Reply #17 |
62. If you don't know anything about 70s feminism, here's a big clue for you |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 08:46 AM Response to Reply #62 |
107. If You Knew Anything About Feminism, Period |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #107 |
184. My decision is to not support a patriarchal warmonger who wants to obliterate Iran |
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Willo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
18. K&R Effie! n/t |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
20. k&r |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
21. Beautifully done, Sister. |
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my2sense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
22. Excellent breakdown K & R |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
24. All of my Black neighbors voted for Hillary in the California primary |
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liberalcanuck (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 08:45 AM Response to Reply #24 |
105. This is a great point. Clinton was getting a greater share of the black |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #105 |
146. Being X military their #1 concern was on Defense |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
160. That was exactly my stance... |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
25. Great post, Effie. And I think a lot of people have forgotten that in the |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. You're right |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. That's the kind of "illogical logic" that makes my head spin. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
50. ". . . and the wisdom to know the difference . . ." |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 01:22 AM Response to Reply #50 |
63. Can't help it--I always think "and the wisdom-- |
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knixphan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 01:32 AM Response to Reply #28 |
67. yes...it's looney. |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
27. I think Whoopi's explanation was more accurate. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Oh, snap - you busted me |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Would you like a picture of my wedding party? |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. What does the racial makeup of your wedding party have to do with this discussion? |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. You're accusing people of being racist. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. You obviously did not read my post before you mischaracterized it |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 12:29 AM Response to Reply #33 |
61. What in the world?? |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #33 |
121. Wow, please be a cliche why don't you. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 05:37 AM Response to Reply #27 |
75. Her post was excellent and very understanding. Very positive. |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 07:07 AM Response to Reply #27 |
92. Is it possible you did a skim-and-post rather than... |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
35. ... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #35 |
64. You'd best send these wise observations to President Sharpton, ASAP! n/t |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 05:35 AM Response to Reply #35 |
74. Let President Jesse Jackson know about this. |
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jonestonesusa (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #35 |
117. Let's cut to the chase... |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #117 |
142. Truer words were never spoken |
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ExPatLeftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #35 |
123. So what is your point? |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #35 |
125. It has been for every Democrat that has gotten that same %. |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
36. AWESOME POST!!!!! You said it PERFECTLY!!!!! |
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mystieus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
38. You forget Hillary was getting 70% of the black vote before South Carolina. Do you know what happen? |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. No. Tell us. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:03 AM Response to Reply #38 |
78. Two things happened at the same time... |
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Jane Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
42. Great post. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 10:13 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Exactly! |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
43. that was a cool breeze after a hot summer`s afternoon... |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 10:27 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. Sweet |
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JBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
45. I loved this OP. Well done. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
48. Great OP. |
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TragedyandHope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
54. K & R "If you could walk a mile in my shoes." |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-07-08 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
57. Here's the breakdown of Obama states won and percentage of "white voters" |
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mcollier (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:11 AM Response to Reply #57 |
79. Thanks for the stats |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:33 AM Response to Reply #79 |
82. It's also very strange that those who are trying impute racist motives in the large black Obama vote |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
58. Exactly... |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
59. This is by far the best post I have read here in some time and I believe you are absolute correct in |
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knixphan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 01:33 AM Response to Reply #59 |
68. ditto. |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
60. Effie, you are a beautiful writier... |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:41 AM Response to Reply #60 |
84. Marion Barry does NOT disprove the point |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #84 |
187. Effie, I love your brain |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #187 |
189. I'm certainly not saying that EVERY person voted for this reason |
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knixphan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
65. Kick for Sanity! |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
69. Thank you. Yours is a very valuable perspective. n/t |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 04:29 AM Response to Original message |
70. K & R |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 05:34 AM Response to Original message |
72. Very nice post. Well done and recommended. |
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livingmadness (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 05:51 AM Response to Original message |
76. I wonder what would happen if Obama had a fundraiser |
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npincus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:01 AM Response to Original message |
77. I htink the Clintons alienated black voters on their own |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:16 AM Response to Original message |
80. Excellent! nt |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:16 AM Response to Original message |
81. I was please to see the diversity at my daughter's degree ceremony |
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DemVet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:44 AM Response to Original message |
85. Oh, so Geraldine Ferraro was correct then. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:54 AM Response to Reply #85 |
89. You totally missed the point of my post |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 07:08 AM Response to Reply #89 |
93. Astounding how many times... |
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jonestonesusa (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #85 |
118. Yes, the "lucky" remark was the worst of it, |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #85 |
172. Geraldine Ferraro hasn't been correct in 40 years |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:46 AM Response to Original message |
86. I doubt Colin Powell would garner 90% of African American votes |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:56 AM Response to Reply #86 |
91. Right. |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 09:41 AM Response to Reply #86 |
115. Neither would Condi Rice |
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Connonym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:48 AM Response to Original message |
87. If "America isn't ready for a black president." |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:55 AM Response to Reply #87 |
90. I agree |
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Revlon10 (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #87 |
102. If "America isn't ready for a black president." |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:51 AM Response to Original message |
88. Wonderful post Effie |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
95. Personally I wouldn't blame any African American for voting for Obama just because he's black |
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petepillow (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 07:27 AM Response to Reply #95 |
98. Well put. |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
96. What I can't figure out is why Obama is labeled as black.. |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 07:35 AM Response to Reply #96 |
99. Of course you're right. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 07:47 AM Response to Reply #96 |
100. In this America, for all intents and purposes, he's black |
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liberalcanuck (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 09:08 AM Response to Reply #100 |
110. I agreed with you on all your posts up until the very last paragraph. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #100 |
149. Well, by MY 'rules,' he can call himself whatever he wants. |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #100 |
206. The way I see it |
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jakem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
97. besides, Boo Boo the Fool has had his 8 years. enough. |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
101. not neolithic-some vote on colour |
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1trackmindGOP (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 08:48 AM Response to Reply #101 |
108. Correct..Education is the cure to bias |
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grrr050 (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
103. Your explanation is......... |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #103 |
127. . |
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1trackmindGOP (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
104. I love the post...very well stated |
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GardeningGal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
106. I'm not - |
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guidod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
109. You nailed it!! K&R |
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lakeguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
111. african americans tend to vote 90% |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
112. K&R. |
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katerinasmommy (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
113. Wellll..... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
116. Blacks aren't voting for Obama, or against Hillary, out of fear and hatred... |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #116 |
143. it's a shame cuz during his terms clinton was a friend to black people seemingly |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
119. k&r |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
120. But whites like Hillary better |
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Texas Hill Country (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
122. i disagree with your view that somehow the Black voters are somehow magically |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #122 |
136. I don't know you well enough to call you a racist, but I do know you blatantly mischaracterized |
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muryan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #122 |
151. Your definition of racism is very strange |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #122 |
161. Identical except for the IWR vote. |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #161 |
167. you DO know that he didn't vote on the IWR |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #122 |
177. Huh? |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
124. This is one of the best posts about 'race' I've ever seen at DU |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
126. Sure there's some other reason that 90% of black people are voting Obama. |
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Texas Hill Country (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #126 |
134. magic glasses that white folk dont have apparently... |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #126 |
159. Have you figured |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #159 |
175. Nobody black on the ballot? |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #175 |
186. If that was the case |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #175 |
191. That is true . . . but let's compare apples with apples |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #126 |
188. I will only speak for myself..... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
128. Brilliantly put! And let's not forget that Clinton had the majority of AA votes early on. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #128 |
133. That's Because They Hadn't Yet Realized Obama's True Viability. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #133 |
135. Unless you have numbers to back that up, it's speculation |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #135 |
137. It's All Speculation From All Of Us. DUH. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #137 |
139. Your point stands? Cause you have more intellect and objectivity? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #139 |
145. Congratulations On Finally Getting Something Right. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #133 |
174. But that describes me, and I'm white |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
129. Wonderful post. Just wonderful. K and r |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
131. Sounds Good. I Mean, It Has No Real Bearing In Reality, But It Sounds Good. |
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JDwho (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
132. Love the context and maturity of this post, Effie. |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
138. Exactly... |
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chemenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
140. Because black people are smarter than white people! |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
147. Effie, your race analyses are always right on target. |
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DinahMoeHum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
148. Hey, "America Isn't Ready": READY OR NOT, HERE WE COME. |
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casus belli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
150. Great post, as usual Effie :) |
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ItNerd4life (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
152. This post leaves me completely baffled. 75% of it makes no sense to me. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #152 |
153. Perhaps most of it is not making sense to you because you didn't read it properly |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #152 |
168. Regarding Jesse Jackson and the White Vote |
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ItNerd4life (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #168 |
170. Thanks for the info |
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Dystopian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
154. I love this post! : ) k&r |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #154 |
157. Maybe some blacks supported Clinton |
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delt664 (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
155. Well done. |
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Kitty Herder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
156. This is a wonderful post!! |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
158. Thanks Effie...for your excellent comments. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #158 |
165. Cheney and Rumsfeld had the best resumes in Washington - you think they did a better job? |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #158 |
169. It would have been progress for a woman, too |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #169 |
176. To be historically accurate |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
162. I like this post. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #162 |
178. You don't see color . . . |
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NYDem Observer (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
163. As a black man, couldn't of said it better myself |
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Vektor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
164. A very intelligent and well thought out post. |
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tpsbmam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
166. K&R. VERY well said! n/t |
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georgecolombo (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
171. Terrific Post |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
173. It would be the same with a gay candidate |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
179. Carl Bernstein 15 years ago: Black Americans know how much the vote counts. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
180. African Americans are voting for Obama because they have a soft spot for Hawaiians. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #180 |
181. Eyup |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #181 |
182. Aloha and thank you for the OP |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 08:39 PM Response to Reply #180 |
195. Amen |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #195 |
198. That is the TRUTH! |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
183. A VERY IMPRESSIVE POST! |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
185. Effie, u rock! K&R |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
192. Thanks for this. |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
194. K&R n/t |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
197. Enthusiastic K&R. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-08-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #197 |
200. Thanks, my friend! |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 01:57 AM Response to Original message |
204. Um..one time they did... (Boo-Boo the fool) |
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