Let her go out on her own terms

[krawhitham]

She knows it is over, she is not a dumb person. As long as she refrains from bashing Obama let her go out on her own terms, she has EARNED that much.

And truth be known Obama should not want her to drop out right now anyway, how bad will it look to lose WV & KY to a canidate that has dropped out?

We saw her speech today in WV, she did not speak ill of Obama and she talked about her positives and McSame's negatives, let her continue that voice until everyone has voted or she wants to quit. It will also help Democrat voter registration if both are still in the race

[EmilyAnne]

1. I agree. She said that she would keep campaigning until there is a nominee, not

just a presumptive nominee. Of course, as an Obama supporter, I would love for her to drop out immediately. Still, I understand why she hasn't, I understand why many of her supporters don't think she should, and I don't think she is damaging the Democratic Party by staying in.

[izzie]

14. I am with you on this.

I do not think Hillary will hurt what she want if she does not get to run. It would be a foolish move and that she is not. I do think she is smart and would be a pretty good President but I just want to see the end of the whole Bush/Clinton group. It has been enough for our country. I wish we could clean out Congress of some of those endless old time people also. Frankly when they have to have their own EMT out side their door it is time to send them home. They also are not in tone with every day people after so many years in Congress I think. It is one of the reasons I like Obama so. He is still near enough to every day people to understand them. He also will lose it, unless he is like Carter who went back to his roots. Most of these big timers in govt. never do. Just how many of those Ex Congress people do you see that come back to their home states? Power is hard to give up.

[Arrowhead2k1]

2. She's wasting our money and our time.

We should be focusing on McCain like yesterday, we don't have time to fuck around because a candidate has issues accepting facts.

[krawhitham]

3. And he can do that

Obama can focus on McCain now, Hillary does not need to be gone to do so.

They could even work together and try to tear McCain apart from both sides while they are both still around. Together they will get more media time than McCain, spent that time ripping him a new one

[Arrowhead2k1]

5. If there's one thing I've learned about Hillary,

it's that as long as she's still in this, she will be dangerous for Obama. If she finds a weakness this month before a decision is made about FL and MI, I have little doubt she'll pounce on him like a rapid squirrel.

Needless to say, I'll sleep much easier when she's finally officially out. :)

[EmilyAnne]

4. Maybe you think that it constitutes having issues, and maybe it does, but I think Hillary

truly believes that she still has a reasonable chance at being the nominee. She doesn't think she is wasting time and money. She actually believes that she has the better chance of beating McCain. I disagree with her on that point, but I understand that as long as she and other people around her honestly believe that she can still squeak into the nomination, she feels ethically obliged to stay in.

[cboy4]

11. Must be frustrating that Hillary (and people like myself)

don't give a rat's ass about your whiney quest to suffocate democracy.

[DontTreadOnMe]

6. your logic is flawed.

re: "Let her go out on her own terms"

This is not a game. The job for President should not be stalled by "Hillary's terms".

When you apply for a job, does the company let the second choice employee "hang around" just in case you don't work out?

Hillary is a distraction right now. We need to put ONE candidate up for our party and continually and publically compare and contrast him to McCain.

There is WAY TOO much at stake for the future of the world to let Hillary treat this like a game.

[Apollo11]

9. You metaphor is flawed

Hillary has said that she will continue her candidacy "until we have a nominee".

Right now we still don't have a nominee, despite what some of the pundits are saying.

Obama does not yet have all the delegates he needs, and we don't know how the DNC rules committee will deal with Florida and Michigan, which could make a difference to how many delegates he would need to clinch the nomination.

Do you also have a problem with Mike Gravel and Ron Paul maintaining their candidacies? :eyes:

It seems to me that there are 5 States (plus Puerto Rico) still remaining to vote. If Hillary wants to be on the ballot in those States and she meets the rules then she has every right to do it.

Calling on Hillary to quit is also an attack against the 16,639,064* citizens who already voted for her

Howard Dean understands this. So does Barack Obama.


* See: www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

[Apollo11]

7. Strongly agree

Real Clear Politics estimates that 16,639,064 people already voted for Hillary Clinton(*). It is important that the Party respects these voters (including those in Florida and Michigan) so that they will vote for the Democratic ticket in November.

Hillary knows that she cannot openly criticize Obama now that he is very clearly most likely to be the nominee. She will focus on her strengths and direct her attacks against McCain.

I think she will stay in the race through June 3rd. Not just for the 6 remaining contests (3 of which she is likely to win), but also to give the DNC rules committee a chance to look at the issues around Florida and Michigan (they are meeting at the end of this month).

My guess is that the remaining undeclared "superdelegates" will swing behind Obama during the days after June 3rd, so he will be the nominee by June 10th.

* See: www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

[DontTreadOnMe]

8. Strongly Disagree

"Hillary knows that she cannot openly criticize Obama"

Every day she is still running, she is OPENLY creating doubt that Obama is the right person for the job.

that is EXACTLY why ALL the other REPUB candidates have dropped out.

The DEM Party needs to come together around ONE candidate, not "ONE and someone else hanging in the wings".

[Apollo11]

10. Huckabee did not drop out until McCain had 50% of total delegates in the bag.

Plus Ron Paul is still a candidate - as far as I know.

[davidpdx]

13. My feeling is as long as she changes her tone

is positive and talking about issues, let her stay in until May 20th. By May 20th, it's clear between super delegates and and pledged delegates he will gain the required amount (by the way I've been saying May 20th for about five weeks now, so it's not something I just randomly made up). The decision to seat Florida and Michigan in some configuration (probably favoring Clinton) will be made by either the rules committee or the nominee and the primary will be over.

You are right that she can not be throwing crap at Obama anymore. The problem is many of us don't believe she's going to stop. There are still MANY Clinton supporters advocating doing just that. So my question is, when does it really stop?

[lligrd]

12. To Heck With Hillary

She doesn't appreciate us and I don't appreciate her.

[SoCalDem]

15. Like asking your stalker, politely ..to only stalk you 1/2 as much

:rofl:

[hokies4ever]

16. I still want to see that door slam on her

to teach her a lesson about disrespecting the black community so many times. "Jesse Jackson what? {slap}" :rofl:

[leftofcool]

17. Don't worry, Al Sharpton is on the job

when he gets out of jail that is

[cjsmom44]

18. RE: My thoughts

Everyone knows that Obama will be the nominee
I suppose we should let Hillary bow out gracefully
Than being said...
Will She?
Will she continue to attack and demean Obama
If she does, superdelegates will move faster towards Obama
My estimate is after Oregon...that is when the biggest Superdelegate shift will be...