I heard a rumor this afternoon; Re * and stem cell research

[NoSunWithoutShadow]

Maybe it's just a rumor or maybe it's out there, but I heard that ol'whistle ass may make a secret visit to Ann Arbor soon, to visit a laboratory that does stem-cell research, (adult stems?)

It's not going to be made public until after the visit. Probably not until after the DN Convention is over. (Just to knock Kerry/Edwards off the front page or bring down whatever bounce they get from the
convention? Doesn't that have KKKarl Rove's fingerprints all over it?) It Seems * likes to think about Stem Cell Research during his August vacations.

Maybe KKKarl and * feel the need to moderate (flip-flop?) their administration's position on stem cell research after Ron Reagan's kick-ass speech at the convention last night. (Not to mention that Nancy will probably not speak at their convention.)

This rumor isn't improbable, because Cheney pulled off a secret visit to Ann Arbor about a month ago to visit the dying Bob Teeter, a R-Pollster.

Has anyone else heard anything?

MODS: please move this if I've posted it in the wrong forum, it's my first time creating a thread.

To the S.S. No threats were made during this thread.

[wryter2000]

1. Welcome to DU

:hi:

[MidwestTransplant]

2. Ann Arbor definitely AIN'T Bush Country

I hope people find out ahead of time. In a town of 150K people or so I would think 30K plus would turn out to demonstrate.

[Melodybe]

3. Can we say flip flop, flip flop!

Congrats on your first thread I hope plenty remark on it.

They usually do when Bushco does a flip flop. We always like to line up to point out Bushco's hypocrisy.

[Booster]

4. At the convention, he'll just say he's going to look into

it with a different prospective, and if he's elected, he'll just say he didn't like the idea. He's done this so many times you'd think everybody on earth would catch on to this trick.

[w4rma]

7. No flip flop on this. Everytime he gets a photo-op somewhere he defunds

the place he got the photo-op at.

[LynneSin]

8. All that flip-flopping and I can turn off my air conditioning

WWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!

[eaprez]

5. Please explain...

...your rationale that this would have an impact on the Kerry/Edwards bounce? Bush's base doesn't want him to change the laws - they'd like him to make them even tighter. I'm thinking it would hurt Bush more than Kerry if word got out he was considering rethinking this issue.

Welcome from another newbie!

[NoSunWithoutShadow]

6. Thanks, I was just thinking that KKKarl wanted *

* to move to the middle; To try and capture the moderate/undecided voters, (all ten of them) although I think it may be too little, too late.

The moderate/undecided voters may alreay know too much about *. KKKarl has a history from past elections of moving * to the middle to capture soccer moms, NASCAR dads, or whatever, just before the elections.

I really hope the American voter is wiser than that. I think they are.

Thanks for your welcome,I love it here.

(edit: typo)

[TexasSissy]

9. If true, I'm guessing it's to bolster this position:

That there is no need for embryonic stem cell research, because adult stem cell research does the trick.

I saw a congressional hearing with the small scientific research senate committee hearing testimony of scientists about ADULT stem cell research. The chair of the committee was a Repub. Most of the rest of the committee was Democratic. During the hearing it became apparent, and the Dem. members called the committee on it, that the deck was stacked. There were three scientists with experience in the field. One was a leading expert and was in favor of embryonic stem cell research, while stating that adult stem cell research is very valuable and irreplaceable. But embryonic holds a different promise. The second was a female holy roler against embryonic stem cell, period. Her answers about embryonic research were vague, and she always routed things back to how ADULT stem cell research would be better, blah, blah, blah. The senators caught on pretty quickly. She wouldn't even answer directly at first if she was against embryonic. She finally did, after she was pressed on it, after the chair gave in at trying to stop the questioning. The third scientist was not against, but was sort of neutral on it.

The administration's position, I take it, from the tone of the chairman's questions: Adult stem cell research is more valid scientifically, or at the least just as valid scientifically, as embryonic stem cell research, so there is no need to do embryonic stem cell research. So you avoid the whole morality question, since it is unnecessary to do it, anyway. Anyone who wants to do it is just saying that for evil reasons, or political reasons.

That argument won't fool anyone. As the leading expert said, those two types of stem cell research are different. They do different things. We're not sure where embryonic stem cell research would take us, since it hasn't been studied much, which is exactly why it should be. But adult stem cell research is valid and helpful scientifically. They both would be helpful. And because of embryonic's unique characteristics, it has the potential to be helpful across a wider range of diseases and physical handicaps.