Will Bushco drop a Reichstag Fire-like electoral "bomb"/October surprise?

[seventhson]

A Resounding "Electoral Bomb" (What Goebbels called the Reichstag Fire)

I have just been reading about the Reichstag Fire and how it was "inspired by Dr. Goebbels's desire for a resounding 'electoral bomb'". (Konrad Heiden, History of National Socialism, Knopf, 1935., p. 246)

When we remember that the Bushes were financing the Nazis at that time and that their political strategists were ivy leaguers and wall street fascists - we must remain alert for that potential here in the United States.

They are well aware of the parallels and the strategy.

Putting aside, LIHOP, MIHOP, and October Surprises for a moment - so far we have been blessed with a relatively peaceful country (inside the United States) since 9-11. The principal operating propaganda method of the Nazi party was to unite the people behind Hitler using fear of terrorists from abroad (in that case, the fire, set by the Nazis, was blamed on a foreigner and alleged communist terrorist(who , it was later proved at trial, was intellectually stunted, a probable patsy, and swore he was NOT a communist)and within.

In this way within days of the fire min 1932 (which was a minor fire put out in a few minutes) they had rounded up many thousands of democratic and socialist and union activists (and killed many in the process) - disbanded the democratic parties and eliminated most civil liberties and constitutional rights - vesting all power in the Nazis.

They instituted Martial law but under the command of the private Nazi brownshirts and NOT the military.

Some say this could not happen here.

Others say it could.

But we who remember history are condemned to see that it is not repeated (or if it is, to at least be prepared for it).

Konrad Heiden, by the way, escaped to the United States and wrote "Der Fuehrer" in 1944 which brilliantly explains the methodologies of fascism and fascist propaganda and black operations we are facing NOW.

I strongly urge you to acquire and study both of these books if you REALLY want to understand the Bushes and our world. I think they may be nearly the most important history books ever written if simply because they describe in astute detail the means and methods of fascism which is operating now and did then and how its globality threatens the very existence of humanity.

If we do not understand this and eradicate it as much as possible, then humanity will surely be eradicated from this planet in a very short time.

[seventhson]

1. would this get more responses if it were in GD???

or is this just to absurd for words?

Let me know cause when I read this Goebbels quote I almost ....well - let's just say I was stunned by its acuity.

[liberalmike27]

2. Personally,

I totally agree with your assessment that the Bush cabal will use any, and all techniques at their disposal to stay in power. I stand open to believe almost anything, and feel the whole religion thing is a total scam, as well as the "Southern" act, not that that matters to me even being a son of the South.

I've been reading Martin Lee's The Beast Reawakens, a book that tells of a reemergence of Fascism, or the fact that it never died in Europe, and its support here too. Think Pat Buccanon. Anyway, it is well worth reading too. Perhaps one of the biggest things people should know, is that Germany's secret service after the war, essentially was merged into the US CIA (NSA, or whatever it was at the time). Something like 20,000 agents that the Nazis had during the war became part of the US establishment. Many of the businesses you mentioned were pardoned from their crimes as they were needed in the reconstruction efforts. I forget the guys name, but this was all arranged by one of the heads who asked to meet with the army head. Some say Trueman didn't even know about it, but I think he probably did. This German knew we'd need agents in the Eastern Block countries and presented the idea to a willing ear in the US.

Unfortunately, many here in America will turn a deaf ear to you on this. People simply don't want to believe anything like this is possible, but think about the effect of all these agents, and their progeny infecting the CIA with fascist ideas and ideals over half a century since the war. The disease has spread quite far, in this agency, the most powerful and secretive one in the government. Think about Malcomb X, the Kennedies, MLK, all assassinated in the middle of anti-Fascist type movements, brilliant leaders stopped in their prime, who would have surely had an effect on bringing us a more free, and less bigoted fascist type of world. It is creepy, but quite believable. In this world, unfortunately, most people don't crack a book once they are out of school, some don't bother when they are in school. This information like much that is out there, will stay hidden, and the disbelievers will just think of this as conspiracy claptrap. If we could just get people to read, rather than watch stupid television that is directed at sixth-grade mentalities.

[seventhson]

3. The Guys name was Gehlen, I believe

the Nazi operative who connected to the CIA/OSS etc

John Loftus writes about it in "The Secret War..." published by St Martin's Press.

I have interviewed Loftus and others in this field and it is truly scary.

The methodology of the Reichstag fire is exactly what I believe was employed on 9-11. The disastrous results are ultimately the same: i.e. the potential destruction of democracy and the subversion of America and its principles by corporate fascists.

I am holding my breath until inauguration day.

I worry for Kerry and I worry for democracy and I worry for Edwards.

Mostly I worry for my children though - because if something goes wrong with thgis election and Bush is reinstalled as Fuehrer, then we are in deep deep trouble as a country and as a world.

[seventhson]

4. Kick