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polticalpout Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:22 AM
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Why are Obama people still slamming on Clinton???
Edited on Mon May-12-08 12:23 AM by polticalpout
I don't get it? At this point in the race and where we are now why do so many Obama supporters continue to slam on Hillary? How does this help Obama? Can anyone tell me that? This shouldn't be about making yourself feel good or gloating or paybacks, it's about Obama and bringing change, anyone who insults Hillary in anyway at this point is doing just the opposite and is simply practicing divisive politics, exactly what Obama speaks out about! If you want to Slam Hillary why not go become a freeper because in the end your just hurting Obama. Has Operation Chaos infected DU?


And yes, Hillary supporters shouldn't slam Obama, but come on Obama people use your heads, think about it!
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:24 AM
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2. They can't help themselves?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:27 AM
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7. Oh! Look!! Hillary on the campaign trail collecting GOP tactics! Awesome photojournalism.
:rofl:
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:33 AM
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23. ROFL!
Omg! My first real lol today!:rofl:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:37 AM
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27. ok that is funny
I shouldn't laugh at it as a neutral observer, but that's good. :)
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 04:56 AM
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80. And proudly displayed by her fawning sycophants!
Edited on Mon May-12-08 05:24 AM by BushDespiser12
The world watches with bated breath...
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 03:18 PM
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132. I don't fault her for staying in, its the Repuke spew that makes us ashamed to be in the same Party
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:27 AM
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9. There are people on both sides that insist on continuing the fight. Like this poster.
It is time to concentrate on McShame.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 03:21 PM
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134. Her continuing could be better for us than dropping out, the problem is the partisan vomit
Imagine if she had pulled out last week... Obama would be losing in a state (WV) to someone who is no longer in the race.
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gmudem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:24 AM
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3. Why is Hillary Clinton running a Rovian campaign?
Why is she refusing to drop out when she has a 0% chance of winning?
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WillyToad Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 09:50 AM
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109. Rove had his candidates hover 'Above the fray'
While the candidates supporters smeared the opponant, sound familiar?

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2004/08/28/moore_rove_swift_boat/index.html">Smear artist
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:24 AM
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4. She's still in the race. she hasnt dropped out. And until she does...
she's not going to get the kid glove treatment.
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WillyToad Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 09:54 AM
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110. Once anger metastisizes into hatred, it cannot be turned off...
I believe that Obama supporters hatred will eventually be the undoing of the Democratic party. I started a thread about Obama supporters turning off the hate when he gets the nomination and basically the theme was that 'hate is healthy' and that it will be then unleashed upon McCain.

Ask any European Jew from 1920 - 1945 how healthy hate is, see if they agree.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 09:58 AM
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111. Comparing Obama supporters dislike of Hillary to the extermination of the Jews...Wow
You're fucked up.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 02:31 PM
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130. She is trying to set herself up for Veep. I won't have it! None of it! That way
madness lies.

:dem:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:25 AM
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5. It would help immensely if people like you would stop bringing this up on both sides.
You are responsible for dragging this out.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:27 AM
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6. Beats me. It's a paradox. nt
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:29 AM
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90. Another paradox:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:33 AM
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98. --
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:25 PM
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122. It's really a parasox.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:27 AM
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8. Why is Hillary still attacking Obama? Why doesn't she drop out so we can all focus on McCain?
Until that happens, she remains fair game.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:28 AM
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13. You are free to concentrate on McShame. Why is it necessary for Sen Clinton
to turn u loose? Ignore her and her supporters and get on with it.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:48 AM
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100. Obama is ignoring her. But supporters have noticed that she hasn't dropped out and that is what she
needs to do. Until she drops out she is still fair game for comment. Why does this bother you so much?
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 09:33 AM
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108. It bothers me because it is being used as a distraction. We need to concentrate on defeating McShame
Whether Sen Clinton is "fair game" or not, it does the party no good to keep up the in fighting.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 10:23 AM
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117. OK. A sane view! I hope Hillary finishes out the remaining primaries and we come to a
conclusion on candidate quickly. To his credit Obama is doing exactly as you've suggested - he's focusing on McCain now.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:43 AM
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92. On the other hand, if we really accept Hillary has lost, there is no point in attacking her anymore.
Edited on Mon May-12-08 06:44 AM by earthlover
Better to focus on McCain.

I agree with the OP. Attacking Hillary at this point is counter productive.

We can unite the party. It would help by stopping the attacks of Hillary. Point was made, decision was made by voters, she can't win....so WHAT should be our focus now?

Beat McCain 08
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Weevlitz Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 03:44 PM
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138. Amen!
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:27 AM
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10. Because She Threw Us Under The Bus
and I for one am not too happy about it.
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polticalpout Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:44 AM
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32. So for personal satisfaction., I see, You 1st, Obama 2nd /nm
nm
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:51 AM
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38. I Fail To See How I Feel About Hillary Has Anything To Do With
Obama. Perhaps, some should quit blaming Obama for what other people do or say. I have never even met the guy.

I do not judge Hillary by her supporters here but by her own actions.
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polticalpout Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:04 AM
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48. You don't think how a candidates supporters act effect what people think of the Candidate?
I highly disagree with you. Especially when that candidate speaks about bringing people together but many of his supporters are more focused on tearing others down by attacking someone they respect greatly.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:10 AM
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52. Only If They Are Idiots
Present company excepted of course.
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polticalpout Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:24 AM
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58. Guess what, Bush was re-elected, what does that tell you?
Edited on Mon May-12-08 01:25 AM by polticalpout
You need 'idiots' to vote for you if you want to win a U.S. Presidential election.

And not only idiots associate supporters with candidates, if someone isn't into politics they can be easily swayed by how their supporters act, are they idiots no, just not highly informed, and there are literally millions of voters out there just like that.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:39 AM
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63. Then The Idiots Get What They Deserve
Unfortunately, they take us along for the ride. But that doesn't mean I am willing to pander to them.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:28 AM
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11. because she's still in the race?
just a guess.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:30 AM
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19. So when we defend Clinton
we're told repeatedly that it's over! She lost! It's finished.

But when people attack Clinton, it's OK because she's still in it, the race is still on, and all's fair.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:52 AM
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39. Your Way Of Defending Hillary Has Been To Attack Obama
and usually first.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:51 AM
Response to Reply #39
68. No, you're wrong
I don't attack Obama. I've never started one thread attacking him. In fact, I've started threads that were complimentary to him.

I defend Clinton against the non-stop lies and smears used here.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 03:52 AM
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75. Must Be Another MonkeyFunk I Have You Confused With Then
Silly me.
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bookman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:28 AM
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12. I think there is still tension..
.. on both sides.


We all need to slap ourselves on the side of the head and think about a McCain administration.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:36 AM
Response to Reply #12
26. yeah, I'd k&r this if I could
Right on.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:29 AM
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14. Clinton Still Attacking Obama On Campaign Trail (May 10,2008)
Meanwhile Friday, Clinton began airing an ad in Oregon in which former CIA operative Valerie Plame and her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, say the New York senator has the strongest plan to end the war in Iraq.

Clinton's top fundraisers and advisers said she would continue campaigning through the final primaries, believing voters in the remaining six contests deserve a voice in the nominating process.

Hassan Nemazee, co-chairman of her finance committee, said her fundraising in recent days had been sufficient to carry the campaign through the next several weeks. "There is no reason for her to stop now," Nemazee said.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/10/clinton-still-attacking-o_n_101124.html
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:30 AM
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15. Isn't it ruder to ignore her?
At least if we slam her we acknowledge her existence.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:30 AM
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16. Its funny. You Clinton supporters say "let her run as long as she wants"
then you wonder why people still talk about her active campaign in a critical manner.

You cant have it both ways.
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polticalpout Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:40 AM
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30. No ,what's funny is I've been an Obama supporter from day 1
That's why i posted this thread, BUT YOU DON'T GET IT, YOU ARE HURTING OBAMA BUT DON'T GIVE A SHIT!
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:47 AM
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34. Bullcrap, and you know it
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polticalpout Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:50 AM
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37. Go look at my past posts before you post., maybe you can figure them out
but if your attacking Hillary at this point, well then maybe you can't.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:01 AM
Response to Reply #30
46. We are not hurting Obama. EVERYONE is making fun of her.
You haven't noticed? She is a mockery. Laughing stock.

The only ones who take her seriously any more are white supremacists and I'm not going to start worrying about THEM at this point.
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cyndensco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:50 AM
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95. Faux news has her back too, don't forget.....
;)
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Ronnie Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:30 AM
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96. EVERYONE. Wow.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:48 AM
Response to Reply #16
35. but it's not that you guys
talk about her campaign in a critical manner. If that were it, there'd be no problem. Your side expresses pure, unadulterated hate. Just vicious nastiness that goes far beyond being critical.
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polticalpout Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:54 AM
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41. Exactly, why is someone who says "Because she's a worthless *sshole who won't shut the *uck up ..."
even allowed on DU? I thought we had some rules here to respect one another? Just becuase this is GD.P it can become freeper land?
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:32 AM
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59. There was a post earlier calling her a "B"
i alerted - it;s still there.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 09:24 AM
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106. It's an Obamanoid's way of dealing with cognitive dissonance:
Edited on Mon May-12-08 09:45 AM by Seabiscuit
1. They crow incessantly that "IT'S OVER", and demand that Hillary supporters trample over Hillary's rotting corpse to join them in drinking the kool-aide;

2. Yet they know she's still there, her campaign's still alive, she's pledging to go all the way to the convention, and there's this sneaking feeling that there's some outside chance she might even win it all;

3. Continuing to lash out at her and her supporters relieves the tension created by all this cognitive dissonance.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:04 AM
Response to Reply #35
47. I tend to loathe racist slugs. Someone with her education should know better.
African Americans were fine with her when they voted for her. She threw them under the bus.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:56 AM
Response to Reply #47
70. And your post is indicative
of the blind hate. She's not a racist because she discussed demographics.

The Obama campaign has been painting the Clintons as racists for months now, and it's reprehensible.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:06 AM
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83. A lot of us have determined her methods to be racially motivated.
That spells r.a.c.i.s.t. to me. I'm ultra sensitive about these things. The question was asked and I answered. No racist gets a pass from me.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:30 AM
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17. BUYER'S REMORSE - because deep down they know he will lose in november
and only now are they realizing they've been played like a two-bit fiddle by the media.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:33 AM
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21. On the contrary: I think all of us know he'll win big in November.
Obama is indeed organized for victory.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:33 AM
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22. I don't see either one losing
Too much going against Republicans right now, plus they have a bad candidate too. McCain could plausibly have beaten her because the RW hates her so much they'd come out in droves, but even then, it would be doubtful. And I haven't seen anything that leads me to believe McCain would give Obama much of a go.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:30 AM
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18. It goes both ways
Everybody is still riled up. Just too soon, plus Hillary's campaign hasn't backed off at all and has put forth a divisive strategy in the last few days, so things are bound to be heated for a while longer now. It kind of depends on the Clinton campaign right now, when will she decide to go positive and when does she get out gracefully? Then if people are still slamming her it would be uncalled for. But as long as she stays in and stays negative, it's going to be ugly all around.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:31 AM
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20. Just returning the favor to Hillary
Obama supporters could just take Hillary's talking points and claim they are just using attacks that the Republicans will use in November. Let's be honest, because the Republicans wouldn't even think twice about using Lewinsky-gate and the likes against Hillary. Some of the commercials might even be too 'controversial' for some TV channels. If these are the attacks by some Democrats, trust me, you don't want to hear what Republicans will say.

However, the real truth is that Hillary has told people that this is the type of politics you must play in order to keep your opponent down. Just when Obama convinced people about the politics of hope, Hillary comes in with a sinister style of politics that is gut-wrenching and smells of the attacks against her back in the 90s. If she hadn't learned the wrong lessons, many of these attacks wouldn't be here.

It's not like Clinton supporters haven't been slamming on Obama. They're taking cues from their candidate (e.g. all Obama has is a speech back in 2002). Obama supporters love him almost like a family member, and are willing to go to battle to protect what they see as a once-in-a-lifetime chance for a new type of politics.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:34 AM
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24. Because she's made herself such a deserving target.
Bush isn't running either, should we give him a pass?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:34 AM
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25. I am embarassed! It is as though some think Obama is just going to Change everything
without their own individual initiative and responsibility.

"Meet the new Boss, same as the old Boss."

Perhaps we need to talk about what people think Obama-ian Change is. Try to define it. It DOES look as though some think it is something that "the leader" does to us, rather than us actually being the ones we've been waiting for. Being the Change we want to see in the World.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:54 AM
Original message
dupe
Edited on Mon May-12-08 12:55 AM by jeff30997
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:54 AM
Response to Reply #25
42. You mean...
It's useless to vote for Kodos instead of Kang???

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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:38 AM
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28. Because she's a worthless *sshole who won't shut the f*ck up and go away.
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polticalpout Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:43 AM
Response to Reply #28
31. You sound like a Freeper with your hate, do you think this helps Obama?
Or does your hate for Hillary trump Obama?
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:23 AM
Response to Reply #31
56. I totally disagree with the way that was said but you guys need to quit
bashing Obama for what someone else said. I don't see him trying to divide the party by race,do you ?
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:34 AM
Response to Reply #28
60. I feel your love.
Now give me some hope and change.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:39 AM
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29. Cause she's still running, lying and exploiting.
That's why.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:44 AM
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33. Because Clinton is still slamming on Obama? We're not supposed to fight back?
Interesting.
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polticalpout Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:49 AM
Response to Reply #33
36. Is it really that hard to grasp?
Do you understand where we are at this point of the race? Do the math, read the papers, look at the SD's pattern of the last few days, do you get it yet? If ya did you wouldn't be taking on Hillary you would be attacking McSame and trying to make up with the other, simple politics my friend.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:59 AM
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44. Thanks for the condescension. And sorry, if I, as an Obama supporter, get attacked, I can't respond?
Yeah, sorry. No thanks. You can do whatever you like, but don't lecture me.
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polticalpout Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:14 AM
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53. By being a supporter of Obama shouldn't you do what's best for him?
At least as far as political conversations go? So you get attacked by a Hillary supporter, so what? At this point in time it should be about bringing in Hillary supporters not insulting them...that is if your an Obama supporter, you see someone who says they are an Obama supporter and then pushes voters away from him by insulting them is full of BS, they aren't a supporter at all, they are just the opposite. It's politics man, not a lecture.

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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:52 AM
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40. I'm not "feeling good" or "gloating".
Edited on Mon May-12-08 12:53 AM by votesomemore
Just as soon as, no sooner no later, she exits herself from this process, I will shut up about her. As long as she is on the run, she is fair game. What's the problem with that? People want her to keep RUNNING! This is part of RUNNING! Get the fuck over it already, the whole lot of you.
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polticalpout Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 12:57 AM
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43. Sorry, I thought this was about doing what's best for Obama
and not attacking someone just because they are "fair game".

Because what's going on is hurting Obama come the general election, it's not helping him in anyway, again I thought it was about doing what's right for Obama.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:06 AM
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50. He wouldn't expect me to kiss white master ass.
So, please. Enough of the hurting Obama dramatics. We are not hurting him. As stated elsewhere, the white supremacist vote is not a personal concern.
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polticalpout Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:18 AM
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54. Don't trash someone = kissing their ass? How the Fk do you jump to that?
Edited on Mon May-12-08 01:24 AM by polticalpout
Why do you pull that shit out? "Kiss White Masters Ass", wtf? You need to attack someone because they attacked you or else it = kissing ass, sorry that shit doesn't hold water in politics.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:11 AM
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84. You claim we are hurting Obama. There's no proof, but that's your claim.
Your theory is that is I refrain from saying bad things about Hillary, no harm will come to Obama.
I don't believe you. I interpret your request as a request to bow down to Hillary's racist, Rovian, disaster tactics. Reward her for bad behavior. I won't do it! I'm a parent. I know what kind of kid you get if you do that. Consequences are key to being human.

Obama is civil to her because they are peers. I'm am a peon. I have a free voice. That's about it.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:36 AM
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61. Isn't that chip getting heavy?
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:12 AM
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85. Yeah. I leave it on the shelf most of the time. But I'm sick of this flood of pleas to be nice to
someone who I do not trust at all. I don't play that way. If Hillary wants me to say nice things about her, she needs to retire herself from the process.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:02 PM
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120. Then don't be nice. Seems easy.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 04:07 PM
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141. Seems easy? Not easy enough for you though obviously. Go away.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:01 AM
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45. As Billary says, if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. nt
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:04 AM
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49. Obsessions are difficult to control
especially by those with low emotional IQ's who take pleasure (and are reinforced) for acting out.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:08 AM
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51. Why is Clinton still in the race? What do you expect as long as she's still kneecapping him? n/t
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:21 AM
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55. Um, probably because she has run a dirty campaign, lost fair and square, and won't leave the stage.
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goletian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:23 AM
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57. why do they continue to slam bush? why do they continue to slam right wingers?
because theyre slammable. stop doin stupid stuff, and you wont get slammed.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:37 AM
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62. I'll remember that when
Obama starts doing stupid things.
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goletian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 02:57 AM
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72. as will i. lets keep our politicians honest.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:43 AM
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64. Oy, with the sock puppetry already
You're trying to provoke fights between Democrats. Go away.
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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:43 AM
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65. Because she's got no chance of winning the nomination and she should drop out of the race
for the good of the party. She's burning her bridges here. She needs to stop while she still has some shred of dignity intact. If she keeps on her current course she will accomplish nothing but ruining any future chance she has at political office AND put at risk the possibility of a Democrat winning the GE in November. We need to stop focusing on the primary and get about the business of fighting McCain. As far as I'm concerned, this is my last comment about Hillary Clinton because she's no longer worth discussing let alone slamming.
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Rubiconski2009 Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:47 AM
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66. GET OUT OF THE HOUSE!!!
LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL!!!!!

Listen up Grasshoppa with mental midget tendencies:

Barack has:

Most Votes
Most States
Most Delegates
Honest
Forthright
Transparent
Courage to address issues you wouldn't dare to say.

Don't take my word for it.

CHECK WITH THE QUEEN BEE.

Nancy Pelosi

She's confirm everything just in case you don't believe the facts.

George Bush taught America well......NO MORE WAR HAWKS!!!

Yes, Hillary....that means YOU!!!

The HATE Machine has taken its best shot and Obama is the MAN!!!

The Clintons and the GOP have been looking hard for something to use against Obama, but all they could come up with is something that someone else said.

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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:51 AM
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67. Why are they bashing her?
Fear.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:53 AM
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69. Because gosh darn it, those damn supporters of hers are too stupid to see reason
and so is she.

:eyes: Instead of celebrating a joyful time in their life, they must endlessly hate and shove the very people they need away. I probably would be saying the exact same thing if Senator Obama was on the ropes as well. The spectre of the ugly winner is not going away.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:59 AM
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71. Why wouldn't they continue? Hillary has yet to concede.
She continues to attack.

Your question should be directed to Team Hillary. You should be asking them why they continue to defy logic and math by this insane series of attacks on our party's nominee.

If you're going to be excessively concerned, be concerned about the right issues. Issue one is: why aren't you supporting the party's nominee?
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 03:01 AM
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73. B/c she and Bill are still slamming on Obama.
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 03:52 AM
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74. every day here O supporters demonstrate exactly the opposite of what they claim O represents
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dcindian Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 04:05 AM
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76. She threatens a countries children she goes down.
Of course that is not the only thing. Hillary is not a moral person and her slash and burn all Democrats that don't agree is the reason for the dislike on this board.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 04:14 AM
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77. Cause she's still running
and cause she's still attacking Obama.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 04:17 AM
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78. Because Clinton people are still slamming on Obama...
...because Obama people are still slamming on Clinton because Clinton people are still slamming on Obama because Obama people are still slamming on Clinton because Clinton people are still slamming on Obama because Obama people are still slamming on Clinton because Clinton people are still slamming on Obama because Obama people are still slamming on Clinton because Clinton people are still slamming on Obama because Obama people are still slamming on Clinton because Clinton people are still slamming on Obama because Obama people are still slamming on Clinton because Clinton people are still slamming on Obama because Obama people are still slamming on Clinton because Clinton people are still slamming on Obama because Obama people are still slamming on Clinton because Clinton people are still slamming on Obama because Obama people are still slamming on Clinton because Clinton people are still slamming on Obama because Obama people are still slamming on Clinton because Clinton people are still slamming on Obama because Obama people are still slamming on Clinton because Clinton people are still slamming on Obama because Obama people are still slamming on Clinton because Clinton people are still slamming on Obama because Obama people are still slamming on Clinton because Clinton people are still slamming on Obama because Obama people are still slamming on Clinton because Clinton people are still slamming on Obama because Obama people are still slamming on Clinton because Clinton people are still slamming on Obama.
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 04:53 AM
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79. why does it matter
Why should matter who it is, or in what party a person is who is slamming the democratic nominee for President.

Obama will be the nominee. Anybody out their trying to find out dirt on him, and lying about his record should be destroyed, no matter who that person is.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 04:59 AM
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81. Because they hate Hillary Clinton more than they like Obama at this point.
Hatred consumes them.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:05 AM
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82. because she's still being an asshole.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:17 AM
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86. Why does Hillary continue to make life difficult for the Dem nominee?
She is done, but she can't help herself from doing harm. She reminds me of Glenn Close in Damages, the snakish lawyer who screws over everyone around her.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:40 AM
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87. Because they still can't think of a reason to vote for him?
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:20 AM
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88. When the idiotic race-baiting crap ends...
The hating will end.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:26 AM
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89. Because nobody has been able to drive a stake through her heart.
Edited on Mon May-12-08 06:26 AM by baldguy
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:42 AM
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91. Because that's what eggheads and African-Americans DO
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:45 AM
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93. 20 million in debt to carry into the general election?
it`s over....go away hillary and let the grown-ups take charge of the party
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:47 AM
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94. I'm trying my best not to, but if she continues to make Obama
unelectable in the general, I refuse to be quiet. I'm also alarmed by the continued insistence of her spokespeople that "something could happen." Every time they say it I cringe. It's as if they're telegraphing a message to a white supremacist nutball somewhere.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:31 AM
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97. We still slam Hillary....because she is sill slamming Obama... nt
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:45 AM
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99. There were some relatively
Edited on Mon May-12-08 08:48 AM by FlaGranny
nice threads about Hillary Wednesday. Most thought the nasty campaigning was over when Hillary spoke on Wednesday. Many Obama supporters started to feel a little sorry for her and Bill. A few weren't so nice - said they'd "believe it when they saw it." Then what happened? We all "saw it." The dirty campaigning was NOT over. Her campaign is still jerking the strings. There is absolutely no reason on this earth for them to continue campaigning in this negative mode unless it is to bring down the candidate so Hillary can have another chance in 2012. None.

I don't like the language and innuendo and personal attacks by a handful of Obama supporters on this board and I don't use them myself, but damn, I can understand the feeling.

Edit: I also see totally ridiculous off-the-wall posts by the same handful of Hillary supporters each day. I have no doubt who will be to blame if John McCain wins the presidency - Hillary Clinton.

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:51 AM
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101. Hard to tell if you're serious + stupid, or something else...
http://www.americablog.com/2008/05/clintons-are-still-searching-for-smut.html
"The Clintons are still searching for smut to bring down Obama"

For example.

She says the fight goes on, so the fight goes on.

It's stupid in the extreme for a Clinton supporter to suggest that Obama supporters stop fighting even while Clinton ratchets things up.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:55 AM
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103. Bloo, the OP says he is an Obama
supporter. I also wish there was not so much nastiness here. I also know it's because Clinton is still running this nasty, useless (for us and the country) campaign.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 09:15 AM
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105. It's not like our side is immune to stupid questions....
Edited on Mon May-12-08 09:16 AM by BlooInBloo
EDIT: But thanks for pointing that out.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:55 AM
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102. Because she's hurting the Democratic nominee's chances in the general
by staying in the race. And looking kind of crazy while she does it.
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:59 AM
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104. Easy question. Hillary hasn't quit the race yet
She continues her attacks on Obama, the democratic nominee. She continues her race baiting divisive losing campaign that only helps John McCain and the republicans.

If Hillary can't stand the heat she better get out of the kitchen, eh?

Any other questions?:eyes:
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 09:26 AM
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107. It's an Obamanoid's way of dealing with cognitive dissonance:
Edited on Mon May-12-08 09:45 AM by Seabiscuit
1. They crow incessantly that "IT'S OVER", and demand that Hillary supporters trample over Hillary's rotting corpse to join them in drinking the kool-aide;

2. Yet they know she's still there, her campaign's still alive, she's pledging to go all the way to the convention, and there's this sneaking feeling that there's some outside chance she might even win it all;

3. Continuing to lash out at her and her supporters relieves the tension created by all this cognitive dissonance.

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 10:05 AM
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112. Because she is a selfish asshat and not really a Democrat anymore...
She is running her campaign into the gutter, being over $20 million in debt and is lying about the "white voters" leaving Obama. Her husband and her surrogates continue LYING about her chances to "win" as well as LIED about how she was getting $10 million overnight after the Indiana primary.

She has been and continues to be a pathological liar. Now it appears she is angling for a VP spot... I say for her to cease and desist immediately. If she had any "balls" like she brags about, she would apologize to her voters for being an abject FAILURE and get back to New York and finish up her term.

I don't expect her to go out of the race with class. That's beyond what a Clinton can do.


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elana i am Donating Member (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 10:05 AM
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113. when hillary stops flinging right wing garbage at obama
i'll stop flinging my abundance of ire at her.
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JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 10:10 AM
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114. I won't start any new posts slamming Hillary, but...
I see her continuing to slam on Obama, so the response is natural to slam back.

Somebody kept posting the political cartoon awhile back where Hillary is shown crying "No Fair" while she holds a blooodied mace, and wears a dress saying "I'm a girl". I can't find it, but that's kind of how I see things...

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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 10:12 AM
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115. Why are the Clintons still slamming on Obama and those of us who support him?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 10:20 AM
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116. Precisely. (nt)
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polticalpout Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 11:48 AM
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118. No surprise, not 1 answer from anyone on how insulting Hillary helps Obama
Edited on Mon May-12-08 11:50 AM by polticalpout
Because the fact is, it doesn't. We all know it's just creating a larger and larger division in our party. I believe it will hurt us come November and while others do not, we all know there is no benefit for Obama that comes from such attacks. Contrary to what some think, I was not asking for anyone to pander to Hillary Clinton and I think it's ignorant and childish to equate holding back insults to pandering. Others have cited the reason for the attacking her is because she is doing it to Obama, I say so what? Just take a look at where we are at this point in the race, and think about it. What is the benefit of responding with an insult at this point? Do you believe by not responding in an insulting way that it somehow hurts Obama?

The fact is for Obama to win in November we will need voters of all kinds to vote for him, many of these people will have views that we do not agree with but if we spend our time slamming one another rather than focusing on why our guy is better for this country compared to the Republicans guy we are destine to lose and it won't be McCain who beat us but ourselves for engaging in divisive and brutally insulting politics within our own party. If just one side stops then half the fire will be out, the other half in due time will go out on it's own.

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Pamela Troy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 11:53 AM
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119. Because hatred feels good to some people.
It makes them feel strong, and smart and righteous.

Sorry, but anyone reading this section of DU knows it's true.

From an Obama Supporter
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:20 PM
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121. Why is Hillary still doing opposition research on Obama?
At this late date, with the primaries pretty much over, and our presumptive nominee clear, a campaign insider indicates that they are still digging for and hoping for dirt on Obama.

For more serious that what some bloggers say here, don't you think?

The reality is, there's going to continue to be divisiveness as long as Hillary stays in the race, continues her race-baiting tactics, and actively continues to fight for votes.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:27 PM
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123. Not really Democrats?
:shrug:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:31 PM
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124. Just as an example, see post 17. When I read a piece of shit like that I honestly
could give a rat's ass who these idiots vote for.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:35 PM
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125. your name says it all.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:40 PM
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126. Hillary and her minions have been SCREAMING for months, "IT'S NOT OVER!!!!"
So if it's NOT over then I'm NOT going to stop fighting. I keep hearing over and over and over, "SHE CAN STILL WIN THIS THING." Yeah, maybe she can. But only if we let up on her and let her sneak in there. I, for one, AM NOT going to stop fighting until she does! Give me ONE reason why I should!

I want a GOD-DAMNED concession speech. THEN and ONLY THEN will I ease up. And it won't be because I like her any better, but because she will be rendered COMPLETELY irrelevant and won't be worth of discussion again for quite some time. He supporters, however, will deserve a break from the pummeling and I will do my best to reach out to them... ONCE IT IS OVER.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:42 PM
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127. "We" seem to be working overtime for the GOP these days
I find it disgusting. No wonder it's the worst fund drive ever...
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 01:59 PM
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128. Because some people here continue to slam Obama, and perpetuate lies.
I, for one, am unwilling to let lies go unchallenged.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 02:15 PM
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129. You're right. You just don't get it.
People on the blogs are still reacting to what Hillary is doing in her dying campaign, but they are doing it in places like DU where they can vent their frustration.

Hillary and Bill are slamming Obama and mocking his supporters on the campaign trail. They are doing it in public appearances and on TV. They are trying to convince potential GE voters that Obama thinks he's better than them. They are poisoning the well.

Obama can win the GE and win it big -- unless he is sabotaged by the Clintons and their supporters. Right now, it's looking like people are fixing to do just that.

If the Clintons and their supporters want to continue slamming Obama and his supporters, they are the ones that should go to Free Republic.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 02:41 PM
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131. Several reasons
- A certain number just hate Hillary with a passion.

- Hillary is still in the race and could (in theory) still gain the nomination.

- Hillbots here are continuing to attack Obama and tit-for-tat is, sadly, human nature.

- A certain number actually are from Operation Chaos. It's well known that Republicans have been infiltrating Dem sites with the intent of making the primary as bitter as possible. I'd be surprised if DU was immune.
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Sundoggy Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 03:20 PM
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133. Now this is truly funny
Tell me, do you read newspapers?

Talk about turning reality on its head!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 03:22 PM
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135. As long as Hillary continues to state she can still win, Obama supporters need to
say; 'yes we can' --> Hillary no you can't'!
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 03:22 PM
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136. Well I can say that it probably has nothing to do with the fact
that I've been off of DU for a few days, and in my first 5 minutes back I've been called a vile cheapskate who lives in my mothers basement. :eyes: Why would that incite anyone? :rofl:
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 03:40 PM
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137. Why were they ever slamming Clinton?
Why should there have been any slamming in a primary race?
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 03:50 PM
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139. I kept at it because I was so shocked
And I am still shocked that race baiting was used by a distinguished Democrat. Seems so absurd. Then further disturbed by HRC supporters acting as if expressing my disappointment was a vicious attack on her. I kept hoping she'd stop that corrosive stuff and show us instead how brilliantly she could slice and dice the mistakes of the Bush-MCain era. She's a powerful speaker too. But slip the corporate media some race baiting comments to play with and they'll ignore your other speeches. Her team knows that and still let things slip into slime. I am still reeling. I was looking forward to two great speakers delivering powerful critiques of the worst administration in U.S. history.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 03:52 PM
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140. IMO the bashing will go on for a long long time ...months ...maybe years.
:evilfrown:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 04:49 PM
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142. Waaaa waaaa waaa... the lying , pandering
Edited on Mon May-12-08 04:52 PM by zidzi
hilary is still in it. When she wakes up I will stop writing the truth about her lies and smears.

I couldn't care less about her when she gets out in the pasture where she belongs.
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