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ballsalicious Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:43 AM
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I am somewhat regretting a post that I made last night about Hillary's mental health....
Edited on Tue May-20-08 09:44 AM by ballsalicious
this one: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6037338&mesg_id=6037338

after some thought...

I think it is unfair to bring this up considering we don't know how Obama would be doing if he were in the same position Hillary is.

I genuinely felt like Hillary is experiencing something unusual... possibly stress and fatigue related. I wish only the best for her, I think more than anything, she may be affecting her life negatively by associating herself with so many negative things. She is not a negative person and by lowering her standards to win this election, she may be affecting her state of being?

Again, if Obama were in the same position, it may be the same thing he would be going through. It has got to be tough for Hillary. I hope she gets through all this ok.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:44 AM
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1. Obama wouldn't put us through this...
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:45 AM
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2. Apologize if it makes you feel better to the Clinton supporters.
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ballsalicious Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:48 AM
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10. I am sorry that her supporters are going through this and I am sorry if my post...
made anybody feel bad. My observation however, was based on real situations and my reaction to them. My heart goes out to all those saddened by there candidate being in the position she is in today. Again, it has got to be hard for her... and her supporters.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:50 AM
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13. Yep. But of course someone has to lose
and someone's supporters have to go through it. It's the nature of the process.
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:02 AM
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23. No need to apologize.
it is a sad thing to watch no matter what we feel about Hillary and her campaign. It is really beginning to show on her physically. I keep thinking about the pictures of presidents and how they age during their term(s) in office...and you can see it in Hillary over just the last year. The overwhelming need to win this thing is taking it's toll on her in so many ways.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:45 AM
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3. If Obama were in the same position, he would have dropped out months ago.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:48 AM
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8. lolololololololol
:spray: :rofl:

Yeah right. Sure he would have... Umm hmmm.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:49 AM
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11. You'll note that every other candidate dropped out once they reached unviability.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:54 AM
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18. ...and the supporters of the candidate who dropped out acted graciously.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:56 AM
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19. That is a ridiculous statement.
Most of them dropped out after 2 maybe 3 primaries. Edwards, who most certainly was viable, dropped out just before Super Tuesday. This entire election has been manipulated from the start. You've been played and you can't even see it.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:00 AM
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20. "Edwards, who most certainly was viable"
:rofl:

He had no infrastructure outside of Iowa, no funding, no momentum, and was set to lose every other state by 30 points. He hinged his entire campaign on winning Iowa and sweeping to a quick victory on a wave of momentum. Once he lost Iowa, it was only a matter of time and of finding an appropriate place to drop out.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:05 AM
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24. Edwards was viable.
Edited on Tue May-20-08 10:07 AM by cornermouse
When he dropped out he was the only real progressive. And the race was manipulated.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:06 AM
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25. Sure.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:28 AM
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34. You are 100%
CORRECT
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:31 AM
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35. I dunno - who played us?
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:50 AM
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12. Laugh if you want to but in the real world he would have been shown the door.
Especially when he opened his own pocket to self finance.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:26 AM
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33. The day AFTER he lost 11 in a row, the media would have shoved him off the cliff
and he would have be through..
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:46 AM
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4. If Obama was in her position he would be 1000% more classy! And drop out and support her!
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:46 AM
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5. Obama would've been out of the race back in March after losing 11 straight contests.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:23 AM
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29. Contests in February don't count.
Let's not forget - February was Black History month! B-)

We can't expect Hillary to do well under such calenderial circumstances ...

Plus the Clinton campaign was all focused on everything being over on Feb 5th.

There is no way they could have predicted such a close race ....



OK - this was my best shot ....
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:47 AM
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6. Please don't apologize. You said what most of us feel. And Obama would NEVER have done
any of this crap.. none of it.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:48 AM
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7. She really is behaving in a strange manner, and her mental health is an issue.
Candidates can lose all sense of reality in the vortex of a campaign. They are surrounded by ass kissers who often cannot tell them bad news. No one wants to be one to say it is over. As the campaign dies, Hillary clings to any desperate hope.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:48 AM
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9. She's not crazy she's just can't stand the fact that she won't be the nominee.
It's eating her up inside because this was supposed to be her year.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:50 AM
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14. Obama would have conceded. He is a classy guy who puts the party first nt
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:01 AM
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22. How classy will Obama be when he concedes to Hillary?
Obama is known for waiting for his opposition to fold..Historically, It's the only way he has ever WON a race!

Well, the worm has turned; now we're waiting for him to 'smell the coffee' and fold.

no apologies requited or required.
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:08 AM
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26. What the hell are you smoking?
Clinton has absolutely no chance of winning this nomination. I don't know what drugs you are taking but please find your way to rehab quickly.

Rp
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:58 AM
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30. Take a peek here...your smugness is duly noted..
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:04 AM
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31. Yes because Hillary is a dictator who controls delegate counts right?
As of tonight she will mathematically have no path to the nomination so unless she decides to go Third Party and basically end her political career with all Democrats, she is done.

Rp
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:33 AM
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36. Rove is now your hero....
I don't put much stock in what turdblossom says. The GE is months away.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:24 AM
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32. Delusional just like your candidate.
:rofl:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:38 AM
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38. We bow to your blinding insight and flawless political acumen.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:39 AM
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39. Doubtful he will do so when he is leading in delegates, the polls,
superdelegates, states won, etc...

I gave the OP a rec because I know how it feels. There have been a few times when I've had to edit a post because I go back and read it, and realize how bad it sounds. I can't speak for others but I will admit I'm frustrated and want this to be over. Patience is a virtue that I wish I possessed.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:51 AM
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15. True. She might not be sick - she might simply be an asshole.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:52 AM
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16. She is suffering from 'Power Craziness'...

She is not herself.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 09:52 AM
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17. It's official; no-one can doubt you're a true liberal, w/a pure heart. Bless you for that.
:hug:
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The Political Jerk Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:00 AM
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21. If if's and buts were candy and nuts...
wait, how does that go again?

-The Political Jerk
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:10 AM
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27. As a Hillary defender, I am also concerned for her health.
How can any empathetic person not be concerned about how she is holding up under such a massive burden of debt and disappointment?

Her emotional vulnerability came to the surface in her recent interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN, when Hillary was asked about how she feels when she sees Chelsea working so hard for her campaign.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:12 AM
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28. If Hillary wasn't Bill Clinton's wife, this would have ended in Wisconsin
No way that Obama, Edwards, or any of the other candidates would have dragged this out.

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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:34 AM
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Hmmm, since the two are essentially tied...with neither capturing more than...
half the party, how come Obama hasn't already stepped down?

No matter how you twist this, He doesn't seem to acknowledge that Hillary is probably our nominee.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:34 AM
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37. One of my favorite
photos of Robert Kennedy is of him sleeping on the floor between seats on a plane during the 1968 primary season. He was a strong man, in good physical health. And he was winning. But the primary process takes a serious toll on those who put their all into it.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:43 AM
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40. Losing Is Losing
by a mile, by a hair.

It's been clear for a pretty long time now, she won't be able to catch up or pass his lead - lying about the numbers, going back on her word/signature regarding MI/FL, twisting the facts about absolutely everything sounds a little crazy.

If she didn't have Bill and the likes of Mark Penn telling her it's still possible if they use the same standards we've heard for the last 8 years - maybe she'd come to her senses and accept reality.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:47 AM
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41. I have true concerns that she is not mentally stable enough for the Presidency.
But that's a judgment that thankfully we won't have to make.
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