ClassWarrior
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Fri May-23-08 11:35 AM
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8 days till we lose our chance at the White House... |
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Edited on Fri May-23-08 11:35 AM by ClassWarrior
Rachel Maddow predicted Wednesday night that we had just 10 days to officially choose a Democratic Party candidate, or we'll have no time to do the hard work of framing McBush. I believe her theory is at least valid -- especially since it comes from someone as erudite as Ms. Maddow (who, incidentally, has scrupulously avoided endorsing a specific candidate).
So what do you think?
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Fri May-23-08 11:37 AM
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Fri May-23-08 11:37 AM
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2. LOL. If there is ANYONE who has been in the tank, it would be Maddow |
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I like her but she has been ANYTHING but impartial since 2/5.
And while I love recycling, lets keep yesterday's OP in yesterday.
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Fri May-23-08 01:08 PM
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12. It is pretty obvious who she supports, but at least she's trying to be respectful... |
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...of all Dems by not announcing it yet. Would you rather she be loud and proud about it like Ed Schultz? Or are you so far "in the tank" that anyone who disagrees with you can do nothing right?
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Fri May-23-08 11:38 AM
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3. it's stupid to put a hard deadline on this |
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reality is too fluid and we don't know any of the controlling variables here.
as a fuzzy deadline, maybe. But again, who knows until we have some evidence, which will be, of course, losing the actual election.
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Fri May-23-08 11:41 AM
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4. A Rhodes Scholar? "Stupid?" Her point is... |
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...that the Rules Committee meets in 7 days. And that if that doesn't go well, it's all the way to the Convention -- which is THREE MONTHS FROM NOW.
You think it's "smart" to forfeit that much time -- and all the money that will be spent -- to McBush?
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Fri May-23-08 11:45 AM
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5. Rhodes scholars are capable of stupid you know |
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Edited on Fri May-23-08 11:46 AM by Teaser
Bill Clinton ain't exactly acted like a genius lately.
And, furthermore, we just don't know what will happen. It certainly isn't good if this goes to convention. But it's also possible that Obama might be such an extraordinary candidate he could overcome the possible downsides of this.
We don't know. We have a sample size of 0 right now.
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Fri May-23-08 11:52 AM
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8. Points all well taken. Especially the one about WJC. |
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:rofl:
And the one about potential campaigning skills of our nominee. He's surprised us before, hasn't he?
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Fri May-23-08 12:51 PM
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Fri May-23-08 11:48 AM
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It's more than the presidency, actually. Hill and Bill see themselves as the owners of the Democratic Party. They don't want to give that up. If Hillary just fades away, then Obama will be the party leader by default. All this foot-dragging by Hillary is to ensure that she and Bill -- as well as their DLC cronies -- still have the keys to the car. The task for Obama is to determine how that will happen.
If Hillary slips out or loses, then their dominance in the party structure will end, along with their 20-year effort to control it. Neither Bill nor Hill wants that to happen. The clincher is that if they can't stay on as the headmaster and headmistress, then they don't care whether the party survives or not.
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Fri May-23-08 12:31 PM
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10. Right, I don't see how it can be taken any other way |
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judging by Hill and Bill's current behavior, even if a person doesn't know their whole history. There is a lot at stake for the Clintons here. They will have to be placated and allowed to save face (at least with those who support them) but I hope not pandered to...that would be a bad sign. Sucked in by the DLC.
It might be a little hyperbolic the way Rachel Maddow puts it about the next few days, but I don't think she is far off the mark.
It's coming to the crunch. :popcorn:
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Fri May-23-08 11:54 AM
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9. LOL!! Rachel says people call her a "black cloud" for saying this. |
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Fri May-23-08 11:50 AM
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Whereas I agree mostly with her logic behind the need to unite ASAP, I don't think if all that does not happen by day 9 the Dems would implode and lose to McSame and his war mongering minions. We are far stronger then that.
I like Rachel, but I wish she would go ahead and endorse already! At this point, any pundit or SuperD who continues to sit on their endorsement ass is only hurting our need to unify.
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