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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:27 PM
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Obama's going to take Montana.
Edited on Fri May-30-08 02:30 PM by Drunken Irishman
I believe this and it will happen. The fact he's only 5 percentage points behind McCain, at this stage, is huge. Obama is going to take this state, he's going to compete in North Dakota, he'll take Nevada, New Mexico and Colorado and is going to be a major player out west. This is how he's going to win the general election.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/montana/election_2008_montana_presidential_election

Clinton, on the other hand, loses about as badly as Gore and Kerry did there.

I believe Obama will take Montana and if he doesn't, it's at least going to force McCain to throw more money at a once safe Republican state (as he will have to do in Indiana, Virginia, North Carolina, Mississippi, North Dakota and maybe South Carolina).
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:28 PM
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1. Especially with Schweitzer as VP. :)))))
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:30 PM
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2. He'd win by double digits with the popular Governor.
Too bad it's only 3 EV's, but I think Schweitzer is an intriguing possibilty because of his background, nonetheless.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:31 PM
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3. 3 EV's aren't much, but combined with NV, CO , NM and Iowa and this election won't be in doubt.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:33 PM
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5. That's the point of Schweitzer or Richardson as running mate....
to stretch the map horizontally, rather than vertically as is traditional.

Go west, young man!
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:35 PM
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6. Yes, Obama is throwing the Gore-Kerry strategy out the window.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 03:09 PM
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16. I think Brian could bring in not only Montana
but he could help us with virtually the entire West... if not for the win, at least make a lot of states like Alaska and Idaho that were formerly totally safe for the Republicans into money-suckers for them.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 04:30 PM
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20. I know Republicans that say they'd vote for an Obama/Schweitzer ticket.
The typical white rural American isn't as much Republican as they're wary of what they perceive as "liberal elitist Democrats" who want to tell them what to do.

Schweitzer would attract these people in droves.
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ij9800 Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:32 PM
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4. We can dream, but I doubt it.
The elction will be as tight as 2000 & 2004... perhaps different determining states, but just as tight.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:35 PM
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7. I disagree, I think Obama clears 300 electoral votes.
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ij9800 Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:38 PM
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8. I'll bet the winner wins with 271-272 votes... TIGHT
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:41 PM
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11. It's within reach, that much is for sure. As long as McCain keeps defending Bush's war.
McClellan's book wipes out any doubt that they used propaganda to start the war.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:39 PM
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9. Montana is an uphill fight but it is winnable. Not going to be easy, but it is possible.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:40 PM
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10. This is why for the Wigand Index we turned away from the traditional Ohio, Florida

to one that included Western and Southern States.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6180124to

Want another shocker - look at Arizona.

Arizona is the fastest growing state in the Union. 30% of the state represents new residents since 2000.

Senator McCain is only polling 50% there with Obama 10% and undecideds about 10%.

If Barr can take off 5% from these Western states they all come into play.

Nothing would have a more disastorous impact on McCain's campaign - especially his fund raising

than to have to spend money to try and compete in Arizona.

Michelle was in Arizona this week.

It will be interesting to see if more surrogates go to Arizona - especially a VP nominee.


Obama leads McCain by 30 points in Illinois.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:43 PM
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12. Damn! That is really interesting about Arizona.
All the Republicans are having a hard time raising money this year.
Even the Republican Congressmen here are having to forego help from the national GOP party.

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medicswife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:52 PM
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13. I grew up in Montana
and the day that John Tester took out Conrad Burns was a happy, happy day for me. I think that Obama has a really good shot at the state.

Ron Paul's statement awhile back that he prefers Obama's foreign policy over McCain's even got some of my typically Republican minded family members on board with Barack.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:59 PM
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14. McCain is a terrible candidate and worse campaigner
It's quite possible he will be viewed as a silly old fool and a laughing stock before this campaign is over... that should change a few state projections.

Kerry had a much, much less efficient and competent campaign staff and plan than Obama does and he still came within 180,000 stolen votes in Ohio of unseating a sitting President whose national favorable rating was still hovering in the 50% range at that time.

McCain does not have the 2004 Bush advantage of either incumbency or massive money edge and his disadvantages going into this GE season are enormous.

The polls will start reflecting this no later than September.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 03:07 PM
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15. That happens all out media assault on Obama
Simply because they want it to be close for ratings.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 03:31 PM
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19. Mostly agree that is the normal pattern but it didn't help Dole much in '96
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 03:11 PM
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17. Is he gonna raise up a crop of dental floss?
Inside joke.
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muryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 03:13 PM
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18. Obama wins because he forces Mccain to spend money he can't afford to spend
in states where he doesn't want to spend it. Throws the campaign off a little bit when you have to run ads in Mississippi and send operatives to south carolina to try and suppress the black vote
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