Did Obama really get delegates in Michigan?

[Infinite Hope]

The brown-skinned gentleman responded to Ickes saying he was floating propaganda regarding Obama receiving delegates despite not being on the ballot. He said the resolution did no such thing.

What did I misunderstand or what actually happened? What did the resolution *LITERALLY* do, rather than what it effectively did?

[FrenchieCat]

1. Since the election wasn't supposed to count, when it did,

new rules came into play. That's what happens when one tries to change the rules at the end of the games; there's not guarantee what the new rules will be. :shrug:

[babylonsister]

2. Here's a good thread for you: Obama was a perfect gentleman, as usual...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=108x131811

[housewolf]

3. The MI Dem Party offered a proposal to split their 128 pledged delegates

69 to Hillary, 59 to Obama.

The DNC decided to accept the proposal but amended it to each delegate only .5 of a vote rather than a whole vote, so Hillary got 34.5 and Obama hoy 29.5.

In essence, the MI Dems discarded the results of their primary and came up with their own way of allocaing the delegates.

[Heather MC]

4. Hillary brought this on her self, she stated in interview

that pledged delegates are not really pledged,

So that means they had the right to shift them around.
Also one of the Hillary supporter without meaning too made the point that the rules should not be changed at all.

By arguing that the MI voters came out to vote, knowing that their vote wouldn't count, suggest that MI voters who came to vote were OK with their votes not counting, they simple wanted to excercise there right to vote.

Seems to me if the voters knew the primaries didn't count. Reinstating the delegates in any mannor is pointless.

So that fact that both candidates got anything is a blessing

[Infinite Hope]

5. But are those actually designated for Obama? At the meeting today they said they weren't. n/t

[housewolf]

6. I heard them say that Clinton got 34.5 and Obama got 29.5...

They were specific about it.

They agreed to the 69/59 proposal (which was to give 69 delegates to Clinton and 59 to Obama) with the change that only allowed each delegate vote to only count .5 instead of 1, and that 34.5 went to Clinton and 29.5 went to Obama.

That's why Harold Ickes was so mad... his contention was that Obama shouldn't get any delegates at all from MI, and he was further angered but the fact that the proposal gave Hillary fewer delegates than she actually earned based on the vote tallies. "Hijacked 4 delegates from her" is how he put it.

Obama really did get the 29.5...