Joe the Revelator
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Sun Jun-01-08 12:24 AM
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Hillary Clinton allowed the woman's movement to be set back light years today |
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The video coming out, the things said by her supporters, are going to make it that much harder for a woman to run for president, which is sad. Hillary chose to play "poor little me, I'm just a girl trying to play a man's game" when she needed to protray the strong woman that I truely believe she is.
Her advisers she be banned from politics, and she should apologize for having listened to them.
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Sun Jun-01-08 12:25 AM
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1. and who's going to get more view on YouTube - crazy lady or Barbara Boxer |
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asking tough questions in a Senate Foreign Relations or Env. and Pub. Works hearing?
Sigh.
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Sun Jun-01-08 12:27 AM
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2. Hillary set Hillary back |
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The women's movement will be fine.
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Sun Jun-01-08 12:38 AM
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I've never bought into this b.s. of "so and so is an embarrassment to women/the women's movement" blather. One woman does not equal all women or a movement.
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:12 AM
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13. THAT woman sure doesn't. |
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:41 AM
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Sun Jun-01-08 12:27 AM
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Sun Jun-01-08 12:29 AM
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4. Noooooo she did not. Quite the opposite. This is a Pandora's Box opening... |
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we will be talking about sexism and this campaign quite a lot in the coming years. Guaranteed.
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:16 AM
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of it being a failure as a political rallying point
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:31 AM
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18. I think you live in a bubble... |
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pandora's box opened a long time ago--it was called the women's right movement. What we've witnessed with this campaign is not about a woman's right, but about a woman thinking she has the "right" to be president because of her name.
I used to really like Hillary, but I am so disappointed in her now, I loathe her.
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Sun Jun-01-08 12:29 AM
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5. i'm a woman that supports Obama, and i disagree |
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:27 AM
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17. Only weak women support Obama. He's got you in his trance. Go for it girls. |
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Sun Jun-01-08 12:31 AM
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I think she's been the worst thing to happen to the women's movement since Archie Bunker. Like you said, her "poor pitiful me, men are sooooo mean" routine is counter-productive.
By the same token, I think she has helped the future for women in politics and is one, among others, who will help pave the way for the first female President. There may be a few obstacles ahead for female candidates specifically because of Clinton, but they will not be insurmountable.
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Sun Jun-01-08 12:32 AM
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7. I think you have a point. The question is going to be asked if female candidates can play by the |
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rules or will constantly moving the goalposts be the norm if they start losing? Can their word be trusted or do they have the right to change their minds if things don't go their way? Any future female candidate will have to make clear that she is no Hillary.
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Sun Jun-01-08 12:35 AM
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8. I know - male candidates would NEVER do that! What was she thinking??? |
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:15 AM
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15. Of course male candidates don't do that. |
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Sun Jun-01-08 12:36 AM
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9. I just don't understand how these folks blame Obama for everything |
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Sun Jun-01-08 12:45 AM
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11. NO .... the woman's movement of the past is in the way of the future |
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which is inclusive to all people, all races, all genders and all generations.
My daughter in her late twenty's is an example of that change. She is leading woman of her generation in her work by her inclusion of all people. Believe me, she is a feminist and leader in her own right as her mother is, but the torch has been past to a new generation and to a new century.
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:13 AM
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14. Well, no. Real movement women were instrumental in imagining |
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social justice that was inclusive. These wackos who have co-opted some of the language of the women's movement really have nothing to do with the through line.
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:08 AM
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12. Agreed. When she holds everyone hostage to her feelings, and essentially throws the china... |
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...it doesn't help women at all. She's been a terrible role model.
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:38 AM
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19. I think that a woman president is just as likely especially if vp, just most likely not Hillary. |
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:40 AM
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20. I've been saying that for months |
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:43 AM
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22. I think women will be judged independently |
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and this will help keep us from being stereotyped. Some sensible woman will step out, who can strategize while maintaining a sense of humor about herself, and then everybody will know why Hillary was not the one.
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:44 AM
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23. Clinton chose all the wrong people to run her campaign. They did her a terrible disservice. |
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And its a shame because Hillary Clinton could have been been a representative we could all be proud of during this primary. Instead, this process has severely tarnished her reputation.
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:47 AM
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24. Oh for God's sake, get real! She broke more glass than any other female so far to date in the US |
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