The pro-Hillary RBC theme seemed to be "they're giving this to Obama", but...

[George_Bonanza]

The only way Hillary could win would be for there to be a massive superdelegate rush to her despite her opponent's lead in every Democratic metric. How's that not taking the nomination away from Obama? Maybe they're so low-information that they honestly believe that not only did Hillary win the popular vote, but that the popular vote is actually a legitimate measurement that's uniform across all states.

[VolcanoJen]

1. Stop making sense!!!!

I'm watching Harold Ickes on YouTube, since I was working when he was on live, waxing on about "democracy" and "party unity" and behaving like a petulant child. He's crying about FOUR DELEGATES in Michigan, that he's willing to destroy the party on the basis of FOUR DELEGATES, as if those four delegates would hand Hillary the nomination.

It's disingenuous and mythical and depressing as all holy hell.

[The Magistrate]

2. Mr. Ickes, Ma'am, This Afternoon, Made Me Angry

It was a very poor display. His stand on 'principle' was made absolutely hollow by the actual ballot in the event he was discussing, and it is hard to imagine he did not know this in both his mind and his heart.

The result was actually a very fair one, and displayed a degree of magnanimity on the part of Sen. Obama's campaign. Hopefully, his supporters will take a cue from that, and behave in a like manner.

[VolcanoJen]

3. Sir, it was an embarrassing display.

His petulance at walking out shortly after Rep. Wexler's session was illuminating, to say the least.

The result was more than fair, especially to Michigan, who, if we really were "sticking to the rules" should have been denied their delegation. That would have been an unacceptable result, however, in the interest of party unity, and I applaud what the good women and men of the RBC did today.

Obama supporters, I feel, are due their moment of celebration. Most have done so in a celebratory and jocular manner. It's been a long slog, and it feels as though we are finally at the end. I likely hope, very much so, that the good Clinton supporters of DU will not behave in the manner reflected by so many of them during today's proceedings.

I sense that we're all going to be OK. :hug: The Mag :hug:

[George_Bonanza]

4. St. Howard shouldn't have voted to strip all delegates from FL and MI then

I can't believe he can say all that shit without blushing in embarrassment. Isn't it true that when somebody asked him why he changed positions from being "pro-disenfranchisement" to "anti-disenfranchisement", he replied with, "We're behind now"? Despicable.

[babylonsister]

5. Your judgment on what happened today enlightened me and

made me happy, The Magistrate. I too think it was fair; too bad Ickes didn't. I think all along the Obama campaign has tried to give Clinton her day in the sun. I guess PR will give her that. But then, I hope a concession will follow.

[Tatiana]

6. I aspire to your level of kindness, generosity, and eloquence.

I was beyond angry. It was a very poor display and unbecoming given Mr. Ickes unique position as a Democratic party leader. He had the opportunity to set the tone. He had the opportunity to join those on both sides in trying to unite the party. Instead, what we got was a deliberate threat to go to the credentials committee (which wouldn't yield any different result). His words only served the purpose of continuing to prey upon the already heightened emotions of distraught supporters.

[Douglas Carpenter]

7. If the Obama camp stuck to principle Sen. Clinton would not have picked up any delegates whatsoever

no one in their right mind could possibly argue that Sen. Obama has O supporters in Michigan .

And no one in their right mind could possibly argue that a primary in which the Michigan and Florida electorate and indeed the whole world were told repeatedly would not count toward delegate selection and this was repeated constantly by the media on the eve of and the day of the primary.

In the case of Michigan, in that such a primary in which only Sen. Clinton was on the ballot, how could one possibly that this was an accurate representation of the will of registered Michigan Democrats; all delegates for Sen. Clinton, O delgates for Sen. Obama.

Absurd would be the polite word that comes to mind.

Even if such absurdity did reach the credentials committee or even the convention floor, there is absolutely no doubt of what the findings would be. And there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever how that would make Sen. Clinton and her followers appear.