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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 03:24 AM
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"Hillary Clinton to be offered dignified exit"
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 03:26 AM
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1. Presumably following the Trumanesque logic...
...that it's better to have her inside the tent, pissing out, than outside the tent, pissing in.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 03:37 AM
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2. I think she would make a great Ambassador.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 03:53 AM
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 05:34 AM
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17. How about Mars?
She couldn't piss off anyone there.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 03:59 AM
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4. She had plenty of chances to exit with dignity already, she should have taken them
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goletian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 04:02 AM
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5. ...should make her press secretary, the way she bullshits.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 04:09 AM
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6. Recommended!! Excellent article everyone should read!
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 04:09 AM
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7. Recommended!! Excellent article everyone should read!
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 04:11 AM
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8. Telling quote: "She has not surrendered in her own mind yet..."
Edited on Sun Jun-01-08 04:12 AM by scarletwoman
Mrs Clinton’s aides, while acknowledging that she will have to abandon her White House dream, do not feel they are in a position to negotiate on her behalf. “She has not surrendered in her own mind yet and until she does it’s very difficult to have these conversations,” the second strategist said.


More from the article:

Dee Dee Myers, the former press secretary to President Clinton, said: “It seems clear to me from watching her, and talking to people, that she doesn’t really know what she wants.” But after 17 months of campaigning, and $150  million (£76 million) spent, the question that haunts the Clinton camp is: how did someone who a year ago had unrivalled name recognition, a legendary campaign organisation and more money than her opponent contrive to throw it all away?

The answers come down to wrong message, wrong tactics, complacency, character – and, ultimately, the opponent. Even Clinton aides agree that she wrongly sold herself as a candidate of experience, when voters yearned for Barack Obama’s message of change. Her campaign machine then failed to win January’s crucial opening Iowa caucuses, handing lethal momentum to Mr Obama.


Interesting article.

Peace,
sw
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 04:16 AM
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9. Makes a lot of sense. She's brought in a lot of votes & has a lot of support. She's not going away.
Edited on Sun Jun-01-08 04:22 AM by impeachdubya
The question now is, how does she not go away?

I think a cabinet position or a high-level gig in the Senate is a solid idea.

Veep, not so much.

So will she take it and get out in a reasonable fashion after June 3? I hope so, but I haven't seen a lot coming from her camp in recent weeks to make me thinks she's going to do a 180 and begin behaving reasonably.

I do particularly like this part of the article:

John Edwards, who is seen as a likely attorney general; and Joe Biden, who is a leading contender to become Secretary of State.

:applause:
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 04:20 AM
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10. So, hire a doorman
to tip his hat on her way out. That's about the most allowance for whatever "dignity" she imagines she has left anyone could be expected to make.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 04:22 AM
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11. Truth is, I doubt it will happen. I suspect she's taking her circus all the way to the convention.
So speculation is moot, I fear.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 04:32 AM
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12. You betcha
She's going. And if she gets no satisfaction, it won't end there. November won't end it. Hillary's swollen entitlement will not be thwarted by puny mortals.
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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 05:09 AM
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13. Hillary's Inauguaration...

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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 05:20 AM
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15. THANKS! I had been looking for that cartoon, but in vain until now.
I'm accumulating "interesting" images on my HD, in advance of their ultimate disappearance from the web, and I'll add that one too.

Here are a few recent additions:


and


pnorman
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AZSlacker Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 09:14 AM
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23. Anyone have contact info for the "Get a brain morans" guy? I think we could have a love connection
On our hands.

:rofl: :rofl:
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:41 PM
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30. Google is your friend!
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Moran&defid=1303800



More yet: http://moran.ytmnd.com/

pnorman
PS: Here's a lady with a message (perhaps his mom):
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 05:14 AM
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14. Here's an exit I can get behind
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 05:27 AM
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16. Obama should offer Clinton the door.
Clinton`s tactics, from "...as far as I know" to thrice using RFK`s assasination to not-so-subtle racism shows me she`s no change agent. Let her huddle with her multi-million dollar handlers and contemplate why the grassroots managed to wrestle her hands from the steering wheel she and Bill controlled for years.
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LiberaI Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 05:50 AM
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18. Alienating Clintons would be a mistake
Regardless of how one personally feels about the Clintons, it is undeniable that they hold a large clout within the party. Given the razor thin margin of the popular vote in Obama's favor, it would show extreme class on his end to offer Hillary a cabinet position or the VP slot.

I think she is owed slightly more than a dignified exit.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:04 AM
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19. The Clintons NO LONGER have any clout. Everyone pretty
much knows this. No one needs to kiss their butts; they are no longer the defacto leaders of the democratic party, Obama is.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 07:18 AM
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20. Dignity was unfortunately a casualty in her campaign.
I don't want to hate, but the spin in recent months has been particularly embarrassing.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 08:35 AM
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21. I am having a problem with these two words in the same sentence:
"Hillary" and "dignified." :hi:
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 09:01 AM
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22. Dignity?????
The woman doesn't have one iota of it in her entire being. Or we wouldn't be where we're at now.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 09:55 AM
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24. I think that would be a good
position for her, if she wants it. I also like Edwards for AG and Biden for SofS.



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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 09:56 AM
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25. Self-delete
Edited on Sun Jun-01-08 09:58 AM by Phx_Dem
duplicate post.
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NEDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 09:57 AM
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26. This article is from back in January
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JRicks_GA Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 03:07 PM
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27. No, Europeans do dates different than us Yanks..
It's from 06/01/08, not 01/06/08.
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NEDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 05:41 PM
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29. Yeah I realized that after I posted it.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 05:25 PM
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28. I'm pretty sure the Dignity Train has left the station.
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