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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 04:56 AM
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These last 5 months have worn me out ............
and I just watched ... :) gotta give the Candidates props for what they have been going through for the last 15 + months.


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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 05:21 AM
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1. Well I am over 70 and we even talked this stuff as a kid soooo
it is like a endless play that one lives with. Things really do change. Not fast but you can see and feel it over the years. This is hardly the world I was born into in 1934 and I feel it is better but I really do feel an odd let down with Bush. It has been the first time in my life that I have felt we are going back-wards. Even Nixon seemed to know some thing of the world and we moved along. We do seem to have run off the road with Bush and one hopes we can just get those old type people out of govt. and get some good people in. I started out in the GOP and slowly moved out of that party into becoming a Dem.
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 05:35 AM
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2. I hope so ........
I don't even want think about how bad off this country will be if McCain screws it up for 4 more years of this kind of policy. We will be working for the Chinese ..... kinda already on that path though.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:01 AM
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3. Things do change
and often for the better.

Take LGBT. In 1969 - less than 40 years ago - there was Stonewall and today gay and lesbian couples marry.
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:13 AM
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4. True ..... I remember when .......
Gay just meant Happy :)

Now they are about to get married in my state and it looks like the majority in CA are finally ok with it. Just a few years ago that majority was on the other side.


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Yellow Horse Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:32 AM
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5. We are moving backwards, to a lot of horrible stuff....
...late 19th / early 20th century we had the robber barons, rich beyond imagination at the expense of workers making pennies a day and dying in dangerous and unhealthy mines, mills, etc. Middle class, if it existed, was small and rather powerless. There was a great extreme -- wealth and poverty.

Through the struggles of the labor movement, the Great Depression, WWII, and the Civil Rights movements (for race, sex, sexual orientation, etc) things did change -- but now we really are heading the other way. The middle class is shrinking; our economy is in grave danger while the richest make salaries and profits that would make last century's robber barons look like paupers.

The over-blown cost of politictal campaigns mean corporations and the ultra-wealthy decide who gets into office and even who gets to run -- and this at lower and lower levels of government. Half a billion has been pumped into this primary; and a lot of that has been sucked away from other causes like good government groups, election integrity organizations, and other watchdogs that desperately need support to hang on.

A President McCain is, IMHO, a real possibility if not already a done deal. Why? This protracted Dem primary (again sucking the money and lifeblood out of a lot of other movements because people just aren't donating to organizations above like they usually do); the GOP's full-frontal assualt on the right to register and vote by minorities, seniors, and others who trend Democratic (the GOPs are stealing votes before they are ever cast -- again!); and the fact that the GOP very well can and will steal it outright with the electronic voting machines if they can't win it fair and square and all their other "steals" aren't enough.)
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 04:48 PM
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12. So I said. My whole life we moved ahead then Bush came in.
Course it was working up to these things. Like Congress not doing its job etc. And I never did get Clinton and NAFTA. I swear I thought he was going to do some thing about that but it just went in as Father Bush wanted it and Clinton was OK about it. I am sure he did not want to fight the GOP Congress as he was really running for his second term once he got in.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:37 AM
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6. Me too, I'm asking my doctor on thursday for stronger anti-anxiety meds
Edited on Sun Jun-01-08 06:37 AM by shadowknows69
Or I won't make it until November. Any suggestions from anyone?
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Yellow Horse Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:46 AM
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7. I can't get meds. I have NO HEALTH CARE COVERAGE, and can't afford $100 bucks to see a Dr.
Edited on Sun Jun-01-08 06:47 AM by Yellow Horse

A lot of us won't make it if McCain wins, and as I said that is a very real possibility the way things are going. Unless this Party comes together and fights the other side instead of each other.

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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:56 AM
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8. I feel ya, no health ins here either, all out of pocket.
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 07:07 AM
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9. Maybe stay away from cable news ?? .....
I don't have cable so I don't get that constant beating of bad news that they are famous for.

In fact the only news I use is I stream the BBC and watch the PBS Newshour.

Maybe that will help?

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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 07:08 AM
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10. Don't watch it, this place provides all the mental stress I need
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 07:26 AM
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11. 8-) yes it does do that. ..........
I am quick on my ignore function now .... keeps my BP down.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:49 AM
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13. Read some good books. Takes your mind off things.
Find some that will make you interested in the people in the story. I would say go back to some of the old books we had to read in college. They hold up. If the book has been around a 100 years and still read their must be some thing to it.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:50 AM
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14. PS they are free on the internet
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