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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 08:26 AM
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This is too little, too late from me, but I realize I've made some mistakes
The main one being that in frustration with the Clinton campaign talking points, I baited her supporters challenging them to show they were Democrats.

I was mostly angry at a few that I thought were over the top in their criticisms, but I think it's my fault if that wasn't clear.

This place has become all about winning arguments and I got in the middle of that game as much as anyone, though I did think I was being fair, I don't think I was as fair as I thought I was being.

I know that most people here, supporters of Obama and Clinton simply want a Democrat to win in November, will vote for either no matter what and share the same basic values on politics.

Like I said, it's too late and too convenient to realize this now. I realize also that as much as I liked Dean in 2004 that what drove me crazy were his supporters saying things like "get used to it..." regarding his winning the nomination.

I think I got involved, I supported a candidate and then I *cared* for that candidate and my reactions were such that I was more sensitive to criticisms, implied, perceived or otherwise than was helpful. I think this went on the other side too. I'm sorry I fed this.

Most of my relatives supported Clinton and I know their support was well founded and based on substance, even if the campaign was a letdown (they admit this too). The bittersweet part of getting to a nominee in a year like this is that so many people are disappointed that their favorite, that their choice, someone they invested a lot of hope and confidence in will not be the standard bearer. It sucks to experience that and I can't gloat over Obama's impending win because I have strong empathy for Clinton supporters who did not deserve a loss any more than I deserve to have my candidate win.

In mid-March, I remember how awful I felt that Obama's moment might slip away amidst Rev. Wright and how rotten that felt. At that point, I accepted that what would happen would happen. The point wasn't whether I felt criticisms were valid or not, but that I'd invested my hopes and confidence in a candidate and no matter why it happens, when you invest that much and come that close and watch it slip away --it just hurts, it's disheartening.

Clinton folks, I'm sorry, I do know that feeling of disappointment and I'm sorry if you are feeling that now or came to feel that earlier this campaign.

I can't wait until we are all on the same side again, or until we are all acting like we are.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 08:27 AM
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1. It's NEVER Too Late To Show Integrity. Good On You.
:toast:
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 08:31 AM
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2. nobody cares
they are busy eviscerating Sharon Stone :sarcasm:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 08:33 AM
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3. good on them for doing something more constructive
:rofl:
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 09:23 AM
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7. but but but
there's a fire at universal! OH THE HUMANITY! where's your perspective?!!????!!!111/?
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 08:33 AM
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4. thank you for your warm, insightful, forthright post
K&R
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 08:39 AM
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5. Listening to Wolfson on Fox just now makes me say I will lay down the shield when she stops striking
Your post is helpful to unifying.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 08:45 AM
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6. yes to many of those guys keep pushing the bs,great call Creekdog you're a fighter
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 09:24 AM
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8. They still aren't ready for unity yet. Continue the flogging!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 11:58 AM
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11. Did somebody call me?
:evilgrin:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:19 PM
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12. As they said in Dragnet "Vibrator repair? Oh thank God!"
Substitute BlooInBloo for Vibrator repair and you get my sentiments.

:-)
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:25 PM
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13. lol! The floggings will continue until morale improves dammit!
:rofl:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 11:54 AM
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9. wise words.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 01:02 PM
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14. Emotional investment in campaigns only works if you are winning
I was heartbroken over Dean, as well.

The trouble with these long presidential campaigns is that it is easy to get emotionally invested.

Many of the people who support Clinton have been supporting her for much longer than any of the other candidates. It is no wonder there has been a heavy emotional investment.

How long so many will refuse to acknowledge this unfortunate result of the campaign they were certain they would win is surely hard to predict.

I have sympathy, but I also really do hope that people will soon be realistic and accept the inevitable outcome.

I wonder if there is also the possibility of sharing suffering\disapointment with like minded individuals rather than spreading negativity?
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