Did Dean say this about the war at the Iowa Debate?

[Jerseycoa]

"I opposed the Iraq war when everyone else up here was for it."

I don't recall him saying this. What was Kucinich's reaction?

Source: AP / Yahoo

[Brian_Expat]

1. That's a misquote

He said that he, Kucinich and CMB were the only people on the stage to oppose the IWR from the beginning.

[Padraig18]

2. Exactly.

Now we will be joined shortly by the "But he was FOR Biden-Lugar and it's the same thing as IWR" crowd... :P

[Jerseycoa]

3. Did he say it? nt

[Brian_Expat]

5. Not as Yahoo is reporting it

He took great care to name CMB and Kucinich along with himself.

[janx]

6. NO.

He did not say that.

[Jerseycoa]

8. I didn't think I heard it.

The Dean campaign should get a retraction.

[maddezmom]

10. I thought for sure he mentioned DK and CMB. n/t

[blm]

7. Being FOR Biden-Lugar is not the same as being antiwar.

That's being pro-resolution to authorize use of force, even if unilateral.

Dean was NOT antiwar.

[Padraig18]

9. Just as I predicted!

you could set your watch by it! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:

[blm]

27. Tough. As long as Dean and you keep saying he's antiwar, the reply

with the TRUTH is needed.

Why take the route of mocking those who dissent, anyway? That's what the GOP operatives and their followers did in the 2000 election.

[Padraig18]

31. The TRUTH that JK voted FOR the IWR?

Or the TRUTH that Dean opposed it?

[blm]

54. The truth that Dean was FOR a resolution for use of force.

With the ONLY additional obstacle that Bush send a letter of his determination that force was necessary to the Speaker of the House and to the Pres pro tem of the Senate.

[mzmolly]

29. Quick-tell John Kerry so he quits using this as a wedge issue between

himself and Dean.

[mzmolly]

4. No he didn't

:hi:

[revcarol]

11. Some improvement, I admit.

But is he going to send out "corrected" brochures to all those NH voters?
When he gets serious about actually DOING something about his lies, he will go up on my list. Until then, the bottom with Lieberman.

[Padraig18]

16. people in NH have TV's and read newspapers.

Dead issue. BTW, does he get any credit for pre-emptively DEFENDING DK's plan to pull out of Iraq?

[TeacherCreature]

17. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

really, I mean it sincerely

[gristy]

12. You really ought to verify things like this yourself before posting.

I can misquote anyybody in the world under the headline: "Did xxx really say this???"

[Padraig18]

13. Well said!

These sorts of threads make me CRAZY!

[Jerseycoa]

19. I didn't misquote anyone

The Associated Press misquoted. Link is up there.

[gristy]

24. And you broadcast it.

[Jerseycoa]

26. Yes, I did

And I am not even one of the nastier people on DU. But I am beginning to feel very twisted by the attacks on my candidate. I just hope I don't get more twisted and more evil and nasty.

[Padraig18]

28. "...I am beginning to feel very twisted by the attacks on my candidate..."

Now you're beginning to understand what it feels like to be a Dean supporter! Welcome to OUR side of the street! :hi:

[Jerseycoa]

32. That street goes both ways

It's a shame.

[Padraig18]

35. That was my point.

The mindless bashing is just that--mindless. I've publicly called down fellow Dean supporters for doing it; have you done so with fellow Clark supporters? :):hi:

[Jerseycoa]

36. I certainly have

:):hi:

[Padraig18]

38. Great!

:)

[Jerseycoa]

39. Now I'm only wondering

when they're going to lock this thing. :7

[Padraig18]

41. Give them time.

:D

[maddezmom]

44. it was a heads up

jeeze...now the RRT can get on the horn and start sending email. Don't shoot the messenger.

[madfloridian]

14. No.

He included CMB and Kucinich. He made a formal apology to Edwards for something. He did not blow his stack.

[TeacherCreature]

15. nope

he didn't say it so why would DK react?

[Jerseycoa]

18. AP is saying it nt

[madfloridian]

20. Link.

:hi:

[Jerseycoa]

21. It's up there

:hi:

[janx]

22. Welp, lousy journalism again.

He went out of his way to give credit where it was due.

[madfloridian]

23. Just saw it.

CNN should have a transcript up soon. He did not say it. I have tried to contact AP before, and they never correct anything. And the news media print what they say verbatim.

That is called lying. And that is what there is a lot of.

[nancyharris]

25. But of the 3 "up there"

only Congressman Kucinich had the courage to actually march and speak at a protest before the war. Where was Governor Dean?

[Egnever]

30. Blah blah blah

All three were quite forcefull about thier oposition to the war throughout.

Give it a rest allready.

[blm]

33. Dean supported a resolution for use of force

in Biden-Lugar. He was NOT antiwar.

[Padraig18]

37. He WAS anti-IWR!

Which Kerry made plain, by his VOTE, that he was NOT! Please quit saying there is 'no difference'--- there was and is, and it is huge.

[zulchzulu]

42. He was pro-IWR originally...

Dean as well as Kerry supported giving the President the chance to use a multi-lateral force to go to Iraq as the last option. Bush lied about what was happening and Dean changed his opinion later.

Here are Dean's two version of his take on the Iraq War:

"But on Iraq, Dean has issued what appear to be contradictory remarks. In a February speech he denounced Bush for "focusing...on the wrong war at the wrong time," claimed that he (Dean) was "not ready to abandon a search for better answers" and called for continuing inspections "as long as there is progress toward disclosure and disarmament." But previously, Dean proclaimed that Washington should issue Iraq a sixty-day deadline to comply with the UN resolutions and if it does not, then "we will reserve our right as Americans to defend ourselves and we will go into Iraq." Then, at a Democratic National Committee meeting on February 21, he attacked the Democratic Party leadership for "supporting the President's unilateral attack on Iraq."

www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml%3Fi=20030331&s=corn

[Padraig18]

43. Spin, ballerina, spin!

Nice rehash, though... :eyes:

[TeacherCreature]

40. rofl

keep trying

[lurk_no_more]

58. Just read Biden-Lugar

Not Anti-War.



” JAFO”

[revcarol]

34. Welcome to DU, nancy...

Hope you're not related to that "other" Harris.O8)

Sorry, couldn't resist.
Here's hoping your association with DU and DU-ers is a long and fruitful one.:toast:

[madfloridian]

45. Now WP is picking the AP story, and so the lies spread.

That is how it goes. One paper told me one day they were not allowed to correct even an obviously wrong AP story. I said so if you know it is wrong you are forced to print it anyway. Their answer was yes.

[Padraig18]

46. That's true.

A friend of mine owns the local paper, and that is part of the agreement you make with tyhe wire services. :wtf:

[maddezmom]

57. but are you forced to run the story? nt

[Jerseycoa]

47. That's pretty bad

I don't see how they can get away with it.

[madfloridian]

48. You can write AP, might not hurt.

[e-mail]

I doubt it will matter. I mention the name of the reporter and the article.

[mandyky]

49. No, he said except Kucinich and CMB

I am pretty sure.

[liberalnurse]

50. What did Clark say at the debates?

Oh, nothing since he was a no-show.......

[QC]

51. How dare he

miss a debate in order to be around for the birth of a grandchild! What on earth is wrong with this man's priorities?

[mandyky]

52. Another grandchild?

I thought the kid arrived on or very near Christmas...?

[Padraig18]

53. He was born Christmas day.

:hi:

[QC]

55. He was expected to arrive somewhat later.

[Jerseycoa]

56. That's true

Today was to be the day, so Wes never signed up for the debate.