There is no national popular vote.

[chascarrillo]

There is no national popular vote.

There is no national popular vote.

There is no national popular vote.

[K Gardner]

1. I'd like to add this: There is NO national popular vote. There IS no national popular vote !

[yourguide]

2. Correct..

it's either delegates or electorial vote.

We saw how much the popular vote meant in 2000. Gore won but didnt win.

[chascarrillo]

3. Even then, in the GE, there are complete popular vote tallies. No such thing exists in the primary.

More than a few states had caucuses. We have depressed turnouts in FL and MI. The "national popular vote" is a popular fiction.

[Median Democrat]

5. Another Example of Hillary Re-writing The Rules To Suit Her Purposes

We had George Bush and the John Yoo memos. Do we really want another President who is so ready to play fast-and-loose with the rules?

[housewolf]

13. The GE is won by the electoral votes, not the popular vote

People vote in their states. Each state has been assigned a certain number of electoral votes. States general elections are winner-take-all elections. In each state, the candidate who wins the most votes wins all the electoral votes.

Then the candidate who wins the most electoral votes is the winner of the GE.

It is possible, and has happened before, that the candidate who wins the popular vote does not win the electoral vote but that's the way our system works. We are a representational democracy, not a direct democracy.

[housewolf]

15. self-delete... dup

[rug]

4. How is Obama leading in the national popular vote?

How is Obama leading in the national popular vote?

How is Obama leading in the national popular vote?

How is Obama leading in the national popular vote?

[Ravy]

6. The Obama camp has cut down that goalpost. nt

[chascarrillo]

7. It's a false metric no matter who uses it, and I'm certainly aware that both camps have.

[Yotun]

8. Who cares? The popular vote is a meaningless metric that counts nothing.

MEANINGLESS!!!

MEANINGLESS!!!


MEANINGLESS!!!

Get that?

I made a thread on this some time ago for Hillary supporters who can't count, which I could find it again.

[demokatgurrl]

9. Was there a national popular vote in 2000

when Gore won?

[Yotun]

10. Irrelevant much? The popular vote was a logical metric in 2000. Not in these primaries.

[chascarrillo]

11. No, there wasn't. There are no popular votes in caucus states, ergo, no national popular vote metric

[housewolf]

14. There's still no such thing as a "national popular vote" that wins elections

In both the primaries and the GE, people vote in states. The states then vote for the candidates - either at the national party conventions or in the general elections. In the primaries, the states get to decide how to allocate their delegates to the candidates running. THey get to decide how they want to do that.

In the ge, the populus goes to the polls and votes for their choice for president. Each state has a certain number of electors that have been assigned to them. In the state elections, the candidate with the majority of votes wins all of the electors from that state (it's a winner-take-all system).

The electors then go to Washington in December and cast their votes. That's when the president is actually elected.

That's why it's happened that the presedential candidate who won the popular vote lost the election - because they didn't win the majority of the electoral vote.

[housewolf]

12. Right. We are a "representational democracy", not a "direct democracy"

Many people don't seem to understand that.

We vote in a state. The state takes our votes and allocates either delegates (primary elections) or electors (general elections). For primary elections, states parties have the rights to determine how those delegates are allocated. That's why Repub primaries are winner-take-all and Dem primaries are proportional and why some have primary electons and some have caucuses.

This whole thing about the popular vote in regards to primary electoins is sooooooo mis-leading, it's totally bogus!