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Sun Jun-01-08 01:09 PM
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Obama supporters need to learn forgiveness |
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This primary has been very emotional and Hillary definitely pissed me off many times in the past couple of months, but we need to learn to forgive and move forward.
The problem I still see that too many people are holding these resentments which are just damaging our cause. Saying that you will never respect Hillary or her supporters again is the same negative emotional response to someone saying they won't vote if Hillary doesn't win the nomination. It is just anger that fuels our own ego and sense of vengeance instead of doing what is best for the greater good.
In some ways these primaries remind me of a religious war. Both sides agree on the same idea, but then it starts becoming an unhealthy obsession about some minor differences which just escalates out of control until we are practically killing each other over it.
If you are concern about the future of this country, stop obsessing about the wrongs of your opponent (who is actually on your same side) and start focusing on working together. You aren't going to foster unity by belittling others, so stop it.
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:11 PM
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1. My forgiveness will begin when she steps aside. If she ever steps aside.nt |
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:15 PM
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:17 PM
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Suppose Hillary and her supporters disrupt the convention... even to the point of causing the same type of commotion that we saw yesterday from them WHILE Senator Obama is giving his acceptance speech... should we be forgiving then as well?
Let her drop out and concede, and announce support of our nominee first.
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:40 PM
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25. Are they really her supoorters or dittoheadish plants? |
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Sun Jun-01-08 02:13 PM
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28. Some may be disruptors. |
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But the people caught on camera and now all over the you-tubes were likely Hillary supporters... the true "cultists" that they accused us of being much earlier.
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:22 PM
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I'm with you on this one.
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:31 PM
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20. Yep... As Soon As She Concedes And Throws Her Support To Obama !!! |
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I am waiting for THAT speech.
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:11 PM
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2. Yes, but Hillary supporters need to accept defeat with grace not with calls of "NOBAMA" and "MCCAIN" |
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like we saw at the DNC meeting yesterday. Why aren't you preaching against that kind of behavior from so-called Democrats?
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:16 PM
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There are many crazy supporters for all the candidates
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:25 PM
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16. If you truly want unity address your concerns to both sides not only Obama |
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Edited on Sun Jun-01-08 01:27 PM by book_worm
supporters. Exit poll after exit poll indicate that Obama supporters will go with Clinton if she were nominated by far bigger numbers than Clinton supporters say they will go with Obama. I'm sorry but a lot of that has to do with the tone of the candidates and Obama running a generally positive campaign while Hillary has run her kitchen sink campaign against Obama.
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:13 PM
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3. I'll forgive and not add fuel to the fire |
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so your point is well taken, but in order to reach our goals the other side needs to stop actively attacking as well. Both sides could use some forgiveness, humility and a realistic apprasial of their respective situation and common goals.
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:18 PM
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both sides need to stop this
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:13 PM
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4. I cannot and will not forgive until she drops out AND endorses Obama |
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:14 PM
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5. Should you forive somebody when he's still trying to rob you? Once the fraud ends, you can forgive |
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:15 PM
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6. I can't keep track - is it over or not? |
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:18 PM
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a person who is seeking it or at least is done with doing whatever it is that causes forgiveness to be necessary.
I can forgive you after you punch me in the face, but not as you are punching me in the face.
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:24 PM
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13. If Clinton refrains from calling the Puerto Rico win a "turning point," then I will consider |
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:25 PM
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14. The bad deed is still being done. |
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Can't forgive while its still going on.
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:25 PM
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15. Should I forgive Bush too? |
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Sorry, half her policies and all her campaign tactics are as bad as his. I'm fighting that, no matter where it comes from. The party leadership can forgive and build a coalition. I'll remember exactly what Hillary has been up to and keep an eye on her and her stooges from here on out.
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:25 PM
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17. Can you consider the fact that some of that anger comes from dealing with people who are allegedly |
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on your side yet they remain vengeful because you didn't support their candidate and they wish the worst for you and the nominee who won fair and square in accordance with pre-agreed to rules? You can't coexist with those who wish to destroy you. Civility must come from both sides.
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:25 PM
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18. I won't forgive until I see her do everything, and I mean EVERYTHING in her power to get him elected |
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:28 PM
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19. Isn't an apology required first? When she apologizes |
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Edited on Sun Jun-01-08 01:30 PM by Truth Hurts A Lot
and concedes with grace and dignity, then yes, the forgiveness can begin. But last I checked, she is still going around the country undermining our nominee. She has done tremendous damage to this party--the unity we had going into the primaries is now destroyed. We are now divided along racial and gender lines. She continues to fan the flames.
But the worst crime? Complaining about sexism while happily embracing the "racist" vote... even bragging about it! WTF? Sorry, that's damn near unforgivable to me and I will not forgive unless she her apology is very detailed (and includes something about the IWR vote, now that her pandering to Bush is no longer useful).
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:31 PM
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21. Forgiveness comes AFTER an apology, not before (nm) |
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:32 PM
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22. as soon as she supports the nominee |
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:35 PM
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23. I forgive you for making this post. You know not what you do. |
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:40 PM
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24. It's hard when she's deliberately trying to destroy our chances for victory. |
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At this point she's practically campaigning for McCain.
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:42 PM
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26. The ONLY way that will happen is after a loss in November |
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Wish I didn't see it that way- but unfortunately what should have been a slam dunk is now IMO a probable loss of the presidency (and that would be my take with either of the two remaining candidates).
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:51 PM
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27. They first need to learn how to be humble |
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It's hard to be humble when they know they are right in their own minds. War depends on this paradox and self importance will not allow for unselfish acts. They will continue to hate and smugness shall overcome humanity.
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