Obama to embark on Diplomatic World Tour after securing the Nomination

[FrenchieCat]

and that is how he will win the General Election!

He'll start out in "Old Europe"--

Barack Obama beats John McCain in European vote
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/2049446/Barack-Obama-beats-John-McCain-in-European-vote-US-election-2008.html

Senator Barack Obama emerged as Europe's favourite candidate for America’s presidency today when a
poll conducted for Telegraph.co.uk gave him 52 per cent support across five of the world’s richest nations, including Britain.

John McCain, the presumed Republican nominee, received only 15 per cent of the vote in unprecedented survey covering Britain, France, Germany, Italy and Russia.
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The poll also found a striking level of anti-American feeling in every country. A clear majority of Russians - 56 per cent - believe the US is a "force for evil" in the world. In Britain, only 33 per cent see America as a "force for good".
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/29/141810/311

He'll come back home to touch base...and then fly to the ME, and visit Iraq as well as other key countries like Israel.

Can you imagine the crowds in Canada, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, England, The middle East, Africa, Mexico, Japan, etc....?

The reporting around the world will be wild, and too much for the U.S. lazyass press to ignore.

Americans here, many tired of being hated and feared, will realize that the kind of love that foreigners show Obama will result in an opportunity of a lifetime for us, The United States of America. Even Big Business will "kind of" support Obama, just because of the Good Will he will bring, as they are also tired of being looked upon in suspicion throughout their dealings.
(see Financial Times Endorsement here: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/19c88b7c-0f00-11dd-9646-0000779fd2ac.html and 3 US SEC former Chairmen endorsing Obama here http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1448591420080514 )

Barack Obama will woo our allies and foes alike, just like he has wooed many of us.

Then, on his triumphant return to the United States, his approval rating will soar, and he will beat McCain in 49 States.

That's how Obama wins the GE, White Women, White Vote and all!

[phrigndumass]

1. Let the world healing begin

:thumbsup: :hi:

[WeDidIt]

2. There he goes again...

Getting all presidential and stuff.

:evilgrin:

[FrenchieCat]

13. I really think that is what he does best.......

does the Presidential and stuff really, really well.

If we don't elect Barack, we will once again be the laughing stock of the entire world....

Not only that, but they will see us as less than they ever have before.

To have 72 years old warmongering McCain beat this Young enthused and forward thinking Obama would tell them more than they would want to know about this country.

That is one of the reasons that I don't see Obama losing to McCain.


In other words, beating Clinton was what Obama had to do. The rest will be much simpler.

Folks might have some prejudices, but they ain't crazy....especially after having lived under Bush for the last 8 years.

See my thoughts on that here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6214420

[jefferson_dem]

3. Perfect!

:patriot:

Let the healing begin! Indeed!

[BlooInBloo]

4. :))))

[Vinca]

5. The world will weigh in heavily on their choice and it won't be for McBush. nt

[Eurobabe]

6. Hey Barack, come to Munich, would ya?

:hi:

[The Doctor.]

7. Exactly what I pictured him doing.

He won't just bring a different message, he'll bring a different world with him.

One where we get our self-respect, and the respect of the rest of the world back.

[David Zephyr]

8. I hope the Obama campaign reads your comments.

I think you have layed out a brilliant pathway, FrenchieCat.

The crowds around the world would be simply gigantic.

And Obama could return home to Americans sensing some pride again and steal a line from Ronald Reagan, "It's morning again in America."

Enthusiastic K&R.

--DZ

[FrenchieCat]

24. Tell them to "Cwall me"......

I have a lot of ideas!

But to date, I will say that they have been nothing short of brilliant....and 1/2 of what I think they should do, they end up doing it.

But yeah......

[Diane R]

9. Being an Obama supporter has been a joy and a privilege. It's so much fun to watch his moves.

[Skidmore]

12. It's been even more fun to be a part of such a big wave of change

in this century.

[Skidmore]

10. I look forward to seeing an American president be respected again

and listening to the peoples of the world with respect himself.

[Donkeykick]

11. There is only one problem with that Frenchie.

European votes do not win electoral votes; matter of fact, I do believe that that Europeans do not get to vote in our Presidential elections at all--at least it was that way when I checked the Constitution.:nopity: If they did, you wouldn't see Dubya in there now. :smoke: :popcorn:

[Skidmore]

15. I'm sure that Frenchie will speak well for herself but

careful with all that obtuseness you're packing around. That stuff can blow up in your face before you know it.

[Donkeykick]

19. Skidmore:

Nonetheless, just how is this going to help his cause when he is galavanting around Europe. The actual voters are over here, right? :wtf:

[FrenchieCat]

26. It's over your head.

Life is much more complex than you are allowing....now that we have entered a new era in the 21st century.

The bullshit that the GOP have been serving Americans ain't gonna be selling quite in the same way ever again. The world is no longer Black and White. Obama is adding technicolor to it all.

[Donkeykick]

31. OK...

Frenchie. We'll see. Good Health to you! :toast:

[amandabeech]

35. Speaking of health,

I'll just be happy if he could bring back some affordable health care from Europe.

[Donkeykick]

40. That I'll agree to!

or from anyplace, for that matter.

The money spent on this Iraqi fiasco could have already been used for every man, woman and child in this country for health care.

[amandabeech]

43. No kidding. n/t

[wvbygod]

33. I note you did not explain the complexities

Care to share with the rest of the class this unexplained complexity?

[Donkeykick]

34. I'm sorry, teacher.

And this unexplained complexity would be? In other words, what would you care for me to explain?:popcorn:

[roguevalley]

50. here are a few benefits

1. signals economic markets around world that things is changing. someone who can count is in charge.

2. signals to allies and enemies that a new foreign policy based on reason and law will be coming out.

3. lets progressives know in other places, especially bad ones that their plight will be known and acted upon again.

there are more but these are the principal ones.

[goclark]

58. FrenchieCat you are so wise

:hug:

[roguevalley]

49. hm, let me see. perhaps its to signal foreign markets and governments

there is a new sheriff in town? Perhaps its to signal to the people of the world that the era of dumbfuckery is over. perhaps that.

[FrenchieCat]

16. If you don't get what I am saying.......

Then fine.

No one is talking about anyone voting in our elections except for those who can.

But I do think that the current trends indicate that the 72% of Americans who have a dim view on Bush's Presidency agree with their overseas counterparts at this point.

Try to understand that this will not be a "regular" election.....and so whatever you are talking about will not apply, in terms of sentiments of those abroad not affecting American's votes. I don't believe that this will be the case (some even learned their lesson since 2004).

If you think that America is really interested in seeing a Black/Bi-Racial man of great intelligence and skill (to the point of him bringing down the Clinton machine that the GOP have tried to take down for the last 15 years) being beaten down by a Old ass quasi-senile warmongering White Guy in the 21st century.......you are in for a rude awakening.

[Donkeykick]

29. Ma'am.

I'm afraid it is you that are in for a rude awakening, if you believe that Barack Obama, or any one else for that matter, should go on a European tour when he should be addressing the concerns of American constituents that may be voting for him in November.

Please. Name me any candidate that has went on a European tour while trying to obtain the position of United States President. (This is only people that were not already in the White House as President to begin with too.) Go ahead.:eyes:

I'll be voting for Barack Obama in November; however, if the gentleman chooses to go on a European excursion, he can count me out volunteering my cash or services for this kind of strategy. Thanks! Good Health to you! :hi:

[starroute]

37. It could address many of the 'concerns of American constituents'

Look at the polls -- many people who are still hesitating over Obama cite concerns that he is not mature enough, not resolute enough, or lacks experience in foreign policy. Those are the areas where he still has to prove himself against McCain -- not the domestic stuff, where he pretty much has a lock on the major issues.

That should be the point of this thread -- not that Obama will impress Americans by how much people in other countries love him, but that he is prepared to speak with foreign leaders as an equal, to be listened to by them with respect, and to offer credible solutions to world problems.

[Donkeykick]

42. I see your point,

but he could come off as being a tad bit too pretentious too soon, and the MSM could turn it against him, depending on what the GOP starts to throw at him while he is gone--and you have to admit that they will do this at every opportunity.

[FrenchieCat]

47. He cannot run his campaign based on what the MSM is gonna think....

I think folks thought that it was presumpteous to have ran in 2008....but he did, and looks like he's the nominee. So sometimes leader actually caculate based on things other than what does everyone think I should do. That would be refreshing, don't you think?

[roguevalley]

51. most of them have. you don't see anything good about signaling

to the world that the change is coming and welcome is coming and we are now sane again. it isn't all about people voting here, its about change everywhere. it also makes him presidential and mccain small.

[w13rd0]

30. But to curry good favor in the world community...

...as we are often reminded, that global community of which we are a part, will have positive benefits here at home that real people will see. The United States is not an island onto itself, and many of our economic and foreign policy woes would be alleviated thru just such an approach.

[Donkeykick]

38. w13rd0:

Sir, the people over in Europe, as well as the rest of the world, didn't like George W. Bush before John Kerry even tackled the task of unseating this man from this job. You will take special note that George Bush made it back in anyway. Care to apply your theory on how he made it back in to office, seeing that people overseas didn't care for him, and they couldn't influence the American voter more than they did that time?

[w13rd0]

59. You confuse...

...sentiment toward the incumbent by the people of the world with the potential impact of goodwill by one who would be entering office with the people and the leaders of other nations. The Obama campaign isn't talking about a whistlestop tour across Europe and the Middle East.

[Donkeykick]

63. I see that your theory...

can not be applied to that little scenario, huh. What a shame.

[TheDoorbellRang]

14. No, that would be imitating Seward's folly

We all know "Team of Rivals" is his favorite book. In it Kearnes tells about the summer before the election Seward was so sure he would win in the fall that he went on a European tour and didn't even bother campaigning, while Lincoln went from state to state familiarizing himself to the voters.

Obama will perhaps go to Europe after he wins in the fall, but I would very much doubt he'd go before November.

[FrenchieCat]

18. Who said that he wouldn't be campaigning here?

How is a week working the goodwill of the world going to harm him.

This is not like any other elections.....especially those that occurred a century ago.

We have never experienced what we are about to. Believe me.

[David Zephyr]

21. Agreed.

Obama could do a world tour and show the American people how proud he will make us, how adept he will be in generating international goodwill and positive foreign policies...and still run a take-no-prisoners campaign here domestically.

Your world tour concept will pull the chair right out from under McCain's phony, but strongest arguments.

And then Obama can then "educate" McCain about international affairs.

[eleny]

32. Exactly, plus - We've had so much campaigning here it will be nice to see our nominee elsewhere

A refreshing change of tv scenery for us here. So I think it's a great move and also give him an idea where his strongest allies will be should he become president.

Another smart move planed by Obama. Good groundwork for the presidency. Americans might start to feel a cleansing with a preview of his approach to foreign policy.

[TheDoorbellRang]

46. I can say that whether or not he decides to visit Europe before November

I trust his campaign strategy to do whatever would work the best. I've never been more impressed by a campaign strategy than the Obama camp's.

[roguevalley]

52. excellent photos and ads from a tour, a nice way to assuage a

HUGE CONCERN for Americans, our standing in the world. GO, OBAMA! AND TAKE ME TOO!

[Donkeykick]

41. Indeed.

I agree. :toast:

[ecstatic]

17. Wow. That is REALLY exciting. :D

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

20. Yeah. But he won't be "tough" and threaten to "obliterate" them!

What kind of unAmerican diplomacy is that?

What will they think of a president who doesn't maintain the obligatory swagger, threats, and bluster?

[FrenchieCat]

22. The kind of America that will be able to restore its rationale for being

a force for good in the world? :shrug:

Barack might get bigger crowds to turn out of him than the Pope! :)

A trip of this nature will allow Americans of all stripes to understand exactly what Obama was talking about with this "change" stuff.

I find it so exciting!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

27. He's going to have a great chance to step out of the archetype of previous presidents.

Soon or later, America is going to have to come to the realization that being the world's only "superpower" has a very real dark side and, as has been proven (again), in Iraq, is a losing proposition.

Throwing our weight around has given us a multitude of enemies and displayed how vulnerable we really are.

Hopefully, Obama will display a little humility and a lot of common sense about America's place in the world.

[FrenchieCat]

28. I don't doubt that......

[K Gardner]

23. Now THAT is the day everyone will know.. he IS going to beat McCain.

[redstate_democrat]

25. I LOVE IT FRENCHIECAT!

He'll begin the healing process around the world! GOBAMA!

[PretzelWarrior]

36. isn't there sort of a taboo against campaigning outside the country?

I mean, what is the history of presidential candidates who aren't already presidents or in the administration going around the world like that?

I admit...the thought is very intriguing and I'd be up for it as long as security was super duper tight on that type of tour.

[FrenchieCat]

48. I saw McCain all over the place overseas just a couple of months ago

Remember? :shrug:

[roguevalley]

53. I believe people have done it before. I will google if I can here.

[RB TexLa]

62. United States Senators make official foreign trips all the time.

I can't see what problem there would be with Senator Obama doing so.

[grantcart]

39. excellent thanks

[TragedyandHope]

44. A great thought

but I'd like to see that after his inauguration.

Unfortunately, I think this kind of tour would only appeal to current Obama supporters, not the undecided and not supporters of other candidates or potential crossover voters from the other party. The pessimist in me says that this kind of thing could easily be twisted against him to galvanize the bunker mentality crowd who were so easily sold on the war on terror. He needs tone down the "rock star" publicity and start projecting more of a rolled-up sleeves, nuts and bolts solutions kind of image.

Obama has an uphill battle to unify the party and convince the rest of the country that didn't already vote for him that he is the right person to lead the country. The wind is at his back, but now his challenge is to appeal to a different crowd than his existing base of support.

[roguevalley]

54. he has this 'problem' with foreign policy skills so a few ads with

him shaking hands with all the world's leaders and drawing zillions in every place he goes will be very nice.

[Barack_America]

45. That should help address the foreign policy experience questions.

Great idea.

[Clark2008]

55. While I agree this should be done, I'm befuddled as to why

he would waste precious campaign time flying to other parts of the world where the citizenry cannot vote for him.

I think he should be spending time talking with the working class in Appalachia or with older white women - people whose support he needs in order to win the GE. I realize several of those people wouldn't vote for him if he was the only choice, but he needs to try to make some inroads into his "weaker" areas.

After he wins, THEN he can go on this healing tour.

Does this make sense?

[FrenchieCat]

60. McCain did it....remember?

March 10, 2008
McCain to travel to Middle East, Europe
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/10/mccain-to-travel-to-middle-east-europe/


McCain heads to Israel, Europe
Mar 10, 2008
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iD268s6_np0z1Rh8kM8gMAsjHbaw

John McCain visits Middle East and Europe
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3508591.ece

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/20/and-now-for-the-fund-raising-part-of-our-journey/

McCain in Britain, May 8, 2008

[Clark2008]

64. McCain hasn't been battling another opponent.

He's had time to "goof off."

:shrug:

[FrenchieCat]

65. Actually, I think that it would help shut McCain up....therefore

fit into the GE strategy.

[crankychatter]

56. Wow.... just wow.... nt

:-)

[Yotun]

57. Why would anybody think the US is a 'force of good'?

[FrenchieCat]

61. They will.....

that's part of the job description.