"Sexism" I'm open to the fact that it is real. HONEST Question: Tell Me How.

[matcom]

I'm a guy.

Now that THAT is off the table, I've heard that the Obama campaign has been sexist twords Hillary. I have seen some of it in the media (mostly Right Wing) but not elsewhere.

BTW, I'm an Obama supporter (so THAT is off the table).

SERIOUS question here. HOW has the Obama (or Obama HIMSELF) been sexist?

I need examples here because I really don't know. This is NOT a dig at anyone. I'm 100% confused how those that make the claim come to that conslusion.

Maybe I'm ignorant. If so, let me have it here.

Thanks.

:hi:

[Bicoastal]

1. And may I add that DU is not an adequate reflection of Obama's campaign...

...so posts made HERE by the occasional sexist moran don't count.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. I'm a middle aged white woman who is a Kucinich supporter

and I, too, want specific examples of Obama or his spokespeople acting in a sexist manner.

[matcom]

3. I actually have to KICK this?

C'MON Hillary supporters. I am REALLY looking for EXAMPLES here! You yelled at the meeting yesterday and EVERY day here.

GIVE ME EXAMPLES!

PLEASE!!

[goldcanyonaz]

5. Actually, we CLinton supporters could not care less about explaining anything any more

We have moved on, so perhaps you should too?

[matcom]

8. so the charges are/were all LIES?

[EFerrari]

12. You've never come up with a shred of evidence so, that's a good move. n/t

[Shakespeare]

19. Thing is, you've NEVER explained it.

I've posted threads asking, too. You just put that shit out there, and never offer evidence. Yes, there's been the occasional off-the-cuff sexist comment by the press, but there haven't been that many, and no less obsession over her appearance than there was over, say, Romney's hair when he was still in it. The broadcast media will always, always focus on the superficial. It hasn't hurt her campaign.

As for the claims that Obama has run a sexist campaign, that is 100% unmitigated bullshit, and y'all need to knock it off.

[goldcanyonaz]

20. I do not believe I have ever brought it up, so what do I have to explain?

Seriously, I am just too tired to keep this ping pong match going

[Shakespeare]

22. "You" is used collectively for Hillary supporters.

That charge gets thrown around here daily, and never with a shred of evidence to back it up. If y'all are gong to spew that kind of nasty BS, you'd darn well better back it up, or knock it off.

[movonne]

24. I'm glad you moved on...and I think we all should...but I kinda like

to know this too..but I can move on...

[shadowknows69]

25. Lol what have you ever explained

Delusion and hysteria isn't explaining things.

[goldcanyonaz]

4. I will have to get back to you, sweetie

[Coexist]

14. is that your example of sexism? that one word?

[neverforget]

16. If sweetie is sexist to a female, is calling a male "honey" sexist also?

[goletian]

57. how about calling them BOYS? i know hillarys done that.

[jgraz]

44. Pure bullshit. I just got back from Chicago and I was called "sweetie" about 3 dozen times

It's a cultural thing. Pretending it's anything else is like pretending that Hillary really wants to assassinate Obama.

[billyoc]

6. The majority of registered voters are women. That "sexist" meme is straight out of someone's ass.

[anonymous171]

7. Obama talked about how he had the support of "Hard working males"

[EFerrari]

11. LOL

[XemaSab]

9. I think that the media has been sexist

Obama, notsomuch.

(I'm an Obama supporter.)

[JerseygirlCT]

28. Yes, there are absolutely examples in the media

but I haven't seen one thing I can think of from Obama or his campaign.

[dsc]

36. Obama saying that Hillary periodically would get down

with a smirk on his face. That was sexist.

[JerseygirlCT]

37. I don't agree. And IMO attributing that to sexism is a big reach

You're assuming that HE assumes that someone feeling down from time to time must be female, and I don't buy that.

[dsc]

39. Oh please

He went so far as to use the word periodically. It was crystal clear what he was saying and it was ugly. Had she talked about him eating watermelon or some other similar crap she would have been vilified. He got a pass like he did for everything else.

[JerseygirlCT]

40. I'm sorry. I just don't agree. nt

[roguevalley]

42. periodically. god. you make me laugh.

[EFerrari]

10. The Obama camapaign has not used sexist tactics against Clinton.

Some assholes in the press and on the cable shows have, though. Tweety was rightfully called out on his bs. But, not Obama or his campaign.

We've been asking the Clinton supporters for months to supply examples. They have nothing but their resentment.

[Vinca]

13. If anyone got into "sexist" mode it was Hillary. As a woman,

I cringed when she went into a spiel about "taking the heat in the kitchen" and "I'm comfortable in the kitchen." Jeez . . . just get out the measuring cups and whip up a pile of cookies while you're at it.

[krawhitham]

15. I do not buy it, if anyone ANYONE else had lost 13 contests in a raw

They would have been ran out of the race

[LoZoccolo]

17. He said "periodically" once!

The rule is: if a man says it, and it could possibly be interpreted as sexist, even .00001%, then it is! Women have the right to accuse men of things that they cannot prove. That is the rule.

And it's not a problem if a Hillary supporter is on TV saying that she will not vote for Obama because he's of "the other race" at all.

NOTE: This post is sarcastic.

[jgraz]

45. I hear they also get to change their minds whenever they want.

At least according to Hillary supporters on this site. :eyes:

[matcom]

18. C'MON! There HAS to be SOMEONE

i'm REALLY interested here!

[Starbucks Anarchist]

21. Just put the Maytag uniform on.

You'll be waiting for awhile. :rofl:

[Darth_Kitten]

23. Why should anybody bring this up when all that is going to happen.....

is that they are going to be taunted/bullied/demeaned/put down anyways? :shrug:

Not by you, but someone. :eyes:

[Olney Blue]

26. Obama has wonderful, strong women surrounding him. Not sexist.

[cbc5g]

27. As a male I've been called sweetie by women before and never thought anything sexist of it

It's like bitch, its gender neutral now. Going to college, I've seen more guys call other guys bitches and more girls call other girls bitches than guys calling girls bitches. But what do I know?

[Warren DeMontague]

29. She was "inevitable". It was supposed to be "HER TURN". The only POSSIBLE explanation

is "Sexism".

It couldn't be anything else, like her vote for the IWR.

Like her refusal to apologize or admit that vote was a mistake.

Couldn't be.

[sandnsea]

30. Interesting thread n/t

[hokies4ever]

31. Well he did beat up on a woman

by beating Hillary in this primary race. :rofl:

[OneAmerica]

32. Because of "dismissive" gestures like this.

[WA98070]

33. It's simple, all the proof you need:

Since there is little difference in their policies; All voters in the Democratic primary were either sexist or racist; since that's what our party stands for

If you voted for anyone but Obama you're racist; if you voted for anyone but Hillary you're sexist.

Since I preferred Kucinich then Edwards I must be a sexist-racist.

[senseandsensibility]

34. The only example I've been given is

when Obama brushed his shoulders off after the ABC debate. He was indicating that he was brushing off the stupid tabloid questions, but Hillary supporters (such as Ferraro) are so desperate to claim sexism that they grasped at that.

[jgraz]

46. With Gerry, that was just the scotch talking.

[lumberjack_jeff]

35. It's inherently subjective.

Speaking for myself, I think that Hillary is a victim of misogyny in this campaign about as much as Obama is a victim of racism; i.e. not very much.

Nevertheless, there are those who see it differently. They arrived at their decision to support Hillary not primarily because her policy is preferable to Obamas, but because they have affinity for her, or admiration for her, or identify with her personally. Thus, they project the barriers and experiences that they faced onto Hillary.

This campaign has been personalized by the fans of both Obama and Clinton (and I use the word "fans" intentionally) to a self-destructive degree.

Whether or not the sexism is quantifiable, identifiable and tangible is the wrong question. The question is if her voters are alienated from Obama by it. If the voters perceive it, it's a problem, whether it exists or not.

Between voters alienated over gender issues and those alienated over "working class" issues, I think we should not underestimate the struggle we will face in the months leading up to the next election.

[hendo]

52. Welcome to the Obama party

The keg is around back.
:toast:

And yes, I agree 100%, this party needs to heal so that we can beat McCain in November.

[bridgit]

38. Do you seriously think that Obama would refer to Hillary as a 'taco salad'?

As I've seen other Duer's refer to women here, posting pics of camel toes and such. And if he doesn't, is that the extent of your criteria?

:spray:

[Whisp]

41. he's beating a woman, how much more sexist can it get...

that's the alter universe message I'm getting from the frothy ones.

I'm fairly attuned to sexist language and innuendo but have to say that by far, most criticisms I've seen against Hillary has nothing to do with what kind of underwear she has on, (i don't visit too many other forums so there may be some specifically woman hating ones out there no doubt) but on poor judgement and poor sportsmanship and just plain piss poor campaigning.

she is out of touch with herself, her message and the majority. she's like a lava lamp at a state of the art techno dance thingymabob place. she does not learn well, like that blasphemy on the throne right now. too many similar notes.

[frickaline]

43. Do you guys seriously expect someone to answer this?

I'm sure they are all dying to volunteer

[bridgit]

49. The answer is actually very simple: Obama doesn't have to, that's Tucker Carlson...

and the likes of Chris Matthews respective jobs as 'journalists', Hannity, Mike Savage, Limbaugh, etc :thumbsup:

[jgraz]

51. I think you should not vote for Tucker then

[bridgit]

53. you'll need to do much better than that, but you'll need to drop the *dope* pipe first

[jgraz]

54. I need to drop the "dope pipe"???

The 1970's called. They want their insult back. :rofl:

[bridgit]

55. then explain what you had posted there if you are able to do so

[jgraz]

56. I'll pass. I just realized your first post makes no sense.

[bridgit]

59. "1970's", you mean like That 70's Show? Well, well, well: Thus Spake Berzerkley...

You realize you can't use the 90's ~ 2000 'crack pipe' cause someone :eyes: will get all in a tizzy. For the record, and being the blovacious ass he is; I do have no intention of voting for Tucker. But it is a sad world indeed when a Central Valley girl can't have a tinsy little back & forth with the Bay Area...tsk, tsk, oh well

[BlooInBloo]

47. (whistling dixie)

[jgraz]

48. K&R for more cricket noises.

:rofl:

[DerekJ]

50. +1

[goletian]

58. oh, i got one. he went easy on her this whole time because shes a she. thats sexist!