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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 04:41 PM
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Article: Friends Feared New Clinton Bimbo Eruptions - Considered "intervention"
Article: Friends Feared New Clinton Bimbo Eruptions
Share June 01, 2008 5:18 PM

ABC News' Tahman Bradley Reports: Former President Bill Clinton's office moved swiftly to discredit a spicy profile story in the June edition of Vanity Fair written by Todd S. Purdum. Mr. Clinton's office distributed a memo to reporters Sunday calling Purdum's 9,600 word article "journalism of personal destruction at its worst."

Purdum, a former White House correspondent for the New York Times, cites anonymous Clinton aides, past and present, who illustrates an undisciplined, sometimes reckless man trapped in a vacuum of self indulgence.

Purdum writes that four former Clinton aides told him about 18 months ago that one of Mr. Clinton's former assistants grew very concerned about the number of tabloid reports concerning the former president and women that "he felt compelled to try to conduct what one of (the) aides called an "intervention," because the aide believed "Clinton was apparently seeing a lot of women on the road."'

Arguing the master has lost his groove - his world famous political touch during the eight years he's been out of office, Purdum quotes another senior aide who he says is part of a group of friends who worry Clinton has never been the same since heart surgery in 2004.

"There seems to be an abiding anger in him, and not just the summer thunderstorms of old. He has been called into question repeatedly by top staff. The fact is, you can only weigh in so often on this stuff. It's just a huge force of nature," says the source, according to Purdum.

<SNIP>

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/06/article-friends.html
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 04:44 PM
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1. That is why she can do the most as Secretary of Health...
Who cares what her husband does then? I wouldn't.

But the VP's husband can't be messing around without soiling the administration.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:14 PM
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33. Bill ruined one Clinton administration, he wd only do it again
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 04:44 PM
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2. Belinda Stronach appears to be his regular floozy, though. n/t
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 08:15 PM
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24. oh please. 'she' is the floozy?
well then bill is the biggess dickess manslut.
how any woman could find that dangling STD attractive, i don't understand.

but I guess i'm not just any woman because I find Billy sexually repulsive.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 10:51 AM
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29. "but I guess I'm not just any woman because I find Billy sexually repulsive" ....
ITA. Do you remember when the VRWC, during Bill's second election campaign, said that women voted for him because they think he's "sexy"?

I thought that was the silliest thing I'd ever heard. Hadn't these idiots ever seen him in jogging shorts?

I think some women find power seductive, but Bill's personal issues are (to me) so revolting that it cancels out any other attractive qualities he may have had.

Besides, in this day and age women don't need to piggy-back on a man to accumulate their own power. Even for women born when I was, in the 1950s, we were able to accumulate our own power along the way. I didn't need to parasitize a man to gain power and influence.

And the way Bill is now? I guess the Vanity Fair article just laid him flat. And, to prove every point the article made, Bill responded in one of his angry tirades for which he has now become famous.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:26 PM
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35. I find it intriguing that "whitey" is an off-limits topic, while this is not.
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 12:26 PM by lumberjack_jeff
I don't see anything in this to consider it more appropriate than what Larry Johnson is doing.

on edit: sorry, I meant to reply to the OP, but I'm too lazy to self-delete and repost.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 04:45 PM
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3. this has been on the cable networks earlier today
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 04:47 PM
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4. So it may be that as some DUers feared, there has been a change
since his surgery.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 08:07 PM
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23. I think it enhances what you had in you. I think he probably had a
near death experience and it can make you more wonderful or worse. My dad had two of them and he was the sweetest man I ever met before. He only became more wonderful afterwards. Too bad it didn't happen to bill that way.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 09:34 PM
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27. It looks like there's some question about what actually happens .
Cognitive decline after bypass surgery?

Patients going for bypass surgery have been concerned over a recent study reported in the New England Journal of Medicine, February 8, 2001 issue (http://www.nejm.org/content/2001/0344/0006/0395.asp).

It has been known for some time that patients undergoing coronary artery bypass grafting (CABG) have short-term cognitive changes, mostly related to memory loss. These defects normally improve over the next few months, during the patient’s recovery. This recent study, which took place at Duke University Medical Center, looked at the effect of these short-term changes on long-term cognitive function. Researchers studied 261 patients, who underwent CABG. They performed neuro-cognitive tests before surgery, before hospital discharge, 6 weeks, 6 months, and 5 years after CABG. Results showed that decline in cognitive function was present in 53 % of the patients at discharge, 36 % at six weeks, 24 % at six months, and 42% at five years after surgery. Patients with short-term changes improved by six months, but had similar changes at five years. Those who did not show early decline, did not have cognitive changes at 5 years.

Why do cognitive changes occur after bypass surgery?

It is not known for sure, but most feel that the changes seen in cognitive function are related to emboli (tiny particles, most commonly cholesterol or blood clots) that are dislodged when the heart-lung bypass machine is removed from the aorta. Factors that were related to the cognitive decline, in this study, included older age, lower level of education, and presence of cognitive decline at discharge. Those with higher levels of cognitive function at baseline also had more room to decline.

It is important to note that this study is a preliminary study. More research will be needed to review the findings and determine if these changes are related to specific factors related to the bypass procedure, aging, or other vascular problems often seen in patients with coronary artery disease.

http://www.clevelandclinic.org/heartcenter/pub/news/hot/cognitivedecline.asp
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 04:49 PM
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5. "...anonymous Clinton aides..."
I'll believe it when/if I see it.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 04:50 PM
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6. This is so wonderfully relevant....NOT.
Take it to that other site we do not name, which is where it belongs.

:thumbsdown:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 04:51 PM
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7. Pointless attack.
It's over.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 04:52 PM
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8. Some heart medications cause anger
Edited on Sun Jun-01-08 04:52 PM by sandnsea
I've read a lot about all of them because my husband is on some. He doesn't have that particular problem, but it is a problem for some people. I think Lipitor can cause some anger side affects in some people, for instance. I wonder if anyone has suggested he try alternative medications.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 04:54 PM
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11. ...
Good to see you 'round, sandnsea. :hi:

Glory Days! We about have this sucker sewn up... :bounce:
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 07:36 PM
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22. My sweet, angelic grandmother, who raised 9 children and helped
raise innumerable children without ever saying a cross word to anyone, because snappish and easily angered when she went on heart medicines in her late eighties.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 04:53 PM
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9. I thought that this was probably full of shit and a stupid post and then I noticed
that this is the husband of Dee Dee Myers - Clinton's original Press Secretary. - Not a candidate for Clinton hater.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 04:53 PM
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10. This is the type of Filth, The Repukes had been planning for Hillar
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 05:00 PM
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12. it`s on vanity fair`s website
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 05:04 PM
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13. this stuff has been around since last year
On RealTime with Bill Maher last fall Richard Belzer talked about a list that was compiled with all the names of the women Bill has been screwing and that the GOP was waiting until Hillary clinched the nomination to release the hounds. Any wonder why the republicans wanted her to be the nominee so badly?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 05:17 PM
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14. i found this on a motor trend blog
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 05:34 PM
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15. Its kind of unfortunate that the sex side was in because it distracts from the rest

Take out all of the sex related problems and it becomes pretty clear that it is a vetting nightmare and that Obama would have to be nuts to want to go thru that.

this was the most devestating paragraph - especially so since it was written by Dee Dee Myers husband:


Throughout his career, Bill Clinton has justified acts of extraordinary selfishness in the name of idealism—he’s always in it for the people, the plain folks who tell pollsters they trust him to look out for their interests, even if they don’t trust him. He has been forgiven colossal egotism, even cruelty, by those closest to him because of his superlative political talents, and because of the overreaching of his enemies. As president, Clinton often could not show grace in the smallest ways. He dithered about where and when to go on vacation, so that aides and Secret Service agents could not plan their own. He declined to release aides and reporters who had waited around all through a pointless Saturday of duty while he made up his mind whether to play golf (a game at which he has been known to cheat). He was never, ever, on time. In Joe Klein’s roman à clef about the Clintons, Primary Colors, the Betsey Wright character accuses the Bill Clinton character of always skating by on charm and talent and need. “You have never paid the bill,” she tells him. “Never. And no one ever calls you on it. Because you’re so completely fucking special. Everyone was always so proud of you. And me, too. Me the worst.”

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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:22 PM
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16. The hard truth is , that the right dogs had already
hard copied and printed the attacks ready for Hillary..and of the the sides was a take on Bill..but also, her early days as a defender of radical elements.. from what I understand they even had an hour long movie set to go..It was not a pretty thing they were about to swing at her..
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:31 PM
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17. And I repeat....
It's "pump head"....

"Brain damage during bypass surgery is so common that hospital personnel refer to it as “pump head.” The primary cause is emboli produced during surgery from clamping the aorta and from the “heart-lung machine.” This machine pumps blood to keep the patient alive while the heart is stopped during the operation. Unfortunately, this pump also introduces toxic gases, fat globules, and bits of plastic debris into the bloodstream of the patient under anesthesia. Once they are in the bloodstream, these particles migrate to the brain where they can clog capillaries and prevent adequate amounts of blood and oxygen from flowing to the brain. Essentially, all patients experience brain emboli during surgery and for many the damage is permanent.

In 2001, an article in the New England Journal of Medicine reported that 5-years after bypass surgery 42% of patients showed decline in mental function of approximately 20 percent or more.2 A study published this year (2008) in the Annals of Thoracic Surgery using MRI testing just after bypass surgery found brain damage in 51% of patients.3 Three years after their time on the bypass pump, significant permanent reduction in mental capacity was identified in 31% of patients. I am not talking major stroke here; but these patients can't remember names or numbers as they once did, experience sleep disturbances (including nightmares), suffer mood swings, and lose intellectual acuity. Approximately 30 percent of people suffer persistent depression and some even contemplate suicide.

Our former president needs our understanding and support. A simple explanation by his doctors of the cause of his recent aberrant behaviors should bring peace of mind to Hillary and her campaign staff. If Mr. Clinton better understood his current limitations, he and his staff could take precautionary steps to avoid embarrassments. A long-overdue explanation would help his adoring public more easily accept his mistakes and readily forgive him. It is not your fault, Mr. Clinton."

http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2008other/080412clinton.htm


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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 07:02 PM
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18. Post GE headline: Far left - far right unite to destroy the Clintons
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 07:04 PM
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19. Cool Avatar
It's sad...The ironic thing is the same people who are lambasting Clinton loved him when he was president...What does it say about them?
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 07:16 PM
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21. 'We want it all, and we want it now'....
I just wonder how long it will take the BO fringe to
turn on him when he fails to fully deliver on each
and every item in their lengthy list of demands.

NSFD: Never Swiftboat a Fellow Democrat
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 08:17 PM
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25. it says that we don't take bullshit from even the people we loved.
no one gets a pass at the expense of my country.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:28 PM
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36. I'm not so sure that's true.
The independents that Obama has brought to the party appear to be less independent than the name implies.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 07:05 PM
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20. All these Nutty Preacher Eruptions make me miss the old Bimbo Eruptions. n/t
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 08:22 PM
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26. Ha! now that's funny!
:spray:
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 09:36 PM
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28. Well I wish these friends would gather around Hillary and hold an intervention for her.
She's crazy, she thinks she can win. She needs to be stopped.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 10:54 AM
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30. he's pathetic
It's really disgusting.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 10:58 AM
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31. "about 18 months ago that one of Clinton's former assistants " BFD.
Wow, The anti-Clinton media is running an anti-Clinton story!!
B. F. D.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:33 AM
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32. HuffPo: "Bill Clinton is still running around with women not his wife"
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 11:38 AM by Stephanie



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carol-felsenthal/bill-clintons-sad-respons_b_104601.html

Carol Felsenthal

Bill Clinton's Sad Response to a Magazine Piece
Posted June 2, 2008 | 10:22 AM (EST)

---snip---

One newspaper editor who read my book and then read the Vanity Fair piece and emailed me to alert me to its existence, wrote that it all sounds familiar; and it's true that there's almost nothing in the Purdum piece that is not in my book. The difference is that mine is a book, so I delve much deeper and I do devote many pages to the good works that Bill Clinton has done, especially in Africa. I did interview many of the physicians and NGO heads who work with him there, most of whom attested to his splendid performance on that front.

***

Many of Purdum's charges -- the business conflicts, the glitzy, inappropriate friendships, the assertion that Bill has been nothing but a drag on his wife's campaign -- are well taken; I make them in my book, and I do believe that when the history of this Hillary/Obama race for the nomination is written, Bill Clinton will be seen as one of the key reason his wife lost. "The first black president" managed to turn African Americans who were supporting Hillary by large margins into almost unilateral Obama supporters. I also believe, as my chapter heading, "Philanderer in Chief" makes clear, that Clinton out of the White House is still the same undisciplined playboy that he was in the White House.

But perhaps the most interesting thing about the former president's detailed almost comically specific response -- and of course by responding he is drawing more attention to the piece than it ever would have received on its own -- is that he completely ignores the take away point of Purdum's piece: that Bill Clinton is still running around with women not his wife.







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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:16 PM
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34. And meanwhile, Clinton's surrogates are pimping manufactured attacks on Michelle Obama.
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 12:16 PM by berni_mccoy
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