Hillary's Slash & Burn Strategy: Extortion & Self-fulfilling prophecies of "McCain will win"

[99th_Monkey]

We should all be familiar with the phenomenon of self-fulfilling prophecy, where one "predicts" something
"awful" will happen, all while doing their damnedest to make sure that very thing actually DOES happen.

All this frantic Clinton Camp hand-wringing about "Obama can't win the GE" crap is just that -crap- attempting
to extort the nomination from the rightful winner with fear tactics and dire predictions (i.e. threats) about
the GE ... some going so far as to come right out and promise that they personally will vote for McSame if
Obama's the Dem nominee. What kind of "Democrats" are these? The name Joe Lieberman comes to mind.

It's time for a change, and for the people to take back their party. Hats off to the Dem Rules Committee
yesterday .. a big step in the right direction. Now the ball's in the Super Delegate's corner: I beg and
plead here publicly for the as-yet uncommitted Super Delegates to come out in force for Obama once the
remaining two primaries are over on Tues.

[styersc]

1. So you think that alienating 17 million + Clinton supporters,

including the traqditional backbone of the party, blue collar middle class, is a recipe for success?

[ChairmanAgnostic]

2. how does that alienate them? unless they are so effin brain dead

to think that getting back at Obama by voting for an ancient POW with little economic, social, or global issues knowledge (except for continuing a horribly mistaken occupation, just for kicks) will be a good choice? fine. go for it. LEAVE. PLEASE. Just let the real democrats alone, let us be, and quit with all your billshut. oops. Hillshut. No, that's not right either. bill hilly crap? Wait, I will get it right, promise.

[boppers]

3. How is getting a better candidate "alienating" voters?

There seems to be this assumption that somehow none of the 17 million will switch? What's up with that?

The backbone also includes minorities, the poor, intellectuals, labor unions, etc., all who have been happy to vote for Obama, so I'm not seeing a whole lot of validity to losing that 17 million, as many of our base aren't *just* blue collar middle class, but also union middle class, minority middle class, etc.

[Beacool]

7. He's not the better candidate, that's just your opinion.

[boppers]

8. Mine, the majority of states, the majority of delegates, and the majority of voters.

But yes, it's an opinion.

[DJ13]

4. They will only be alienated because she refused to quit when she should have

If she had done what candidates have traditionally done and quit when the numerical odds of a victory were too long instead of riling up her supporters in her ego driven lost cause by inflaming them with empty calls of "sexism" and a "stolen" nomination, there would be no alienation.

[99th_Monkey]

5. "It's Obama's party now" and it's time Hillary & her supporters got the memo.

I know there are many many sane and sincere Hillary supporters, and it's THOSE who I reach out to for unity and
reconciliation; the rude screaming slash and burn "we'll vote for McÇain" DINOs can fuck off as far as I'm concerned.

With "friends" like that, well ... who needs them?

[Lerkfish]

6. this presumes the backbone of the party will not vote the nominee

which, if true, would indicate that they are not the backbone of the party.

so, not really sure I understand your point.

[Yotun]

10. He's alienating them by winning? You guys are nuts! The only way not to 'alienate' you is by losing!

So Obama is either supposed to lie down and let Hillary win the election by default, or, you know, win it, and 'alienate' her supporters.

You know what. This IS a democracy. If the majority of democrats are too stupid to vote for Obama come November, then yeah, majority wins. The country deserves what it will get. A disasterous president for an idiotic electorate. God knows, we managed to get Bush in for 2 terms...

[anigbrowl]

11. I don't think that 17 million people feel alienated by the RBC

especially considering that she would lose anyway even if both delegations were at full strength.

[barack the house]

9. Yes, for this reason alone her campaign has rejected its right to the nomination...

Hillary should of come out and denounced Geraldines call for voting mccain. We are electing aDemocrat afterall.