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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:40 PM
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Nobody can stop her but her
Am I correct in this assertion? Even after the super delegates put Obama over the line, there isn't anything that can actually stop her from taking it to the convention, is there?

Pelosi can make a few phone calls, I guess, but I don't think anyone really has the power to stop her. Only she can stop this madness by dropping out of the race.

I refuse to get my hopes up. It's not going to happen. Prepare for war.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:41 PM
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1. Pelosi has no clout
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:47 PM
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6. The Speaker of the House has no clout? Where you come from? Where's that?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:41 PM
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2. what did she say in her speech today?
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:48 PM
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8. SHe won the popular vote, the PEOPLE have spoken, the SDs are coming to her in droves
and that she is taking it to the Convention.

Likely to scare up what cash her supporters have left to pay off her loan, but there it is.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:49 PM
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10. really?!
Edited on Sun Jun-01-08 06:51 PM by FLDem5
the networks should just stop covering her speeches. It only encourages her.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:59 PM
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14. Yup. Quite a few threads about it.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 07:05 PM
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15. wow - thanks for that.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:41 PM
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3. Pretty much.
Edited on Sun Jun-01-08 06:42 PM by Drunken Irishman
Obama won't be the official nominee, even if every superdelegate left Clinton's side and endorsed him, until he is voted on by the delegates at the convention. Realistically, anyone can be the Democratic nominee at this time, since there is only a presumptive nominee. You and I could go to the convention and ask for votes and we stand about as much shot at it as she does.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:43 PM
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4. I'll hit the panic button on Wednesday
Till than I'm just going to enjoy Tuesday night.
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:45 PM
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5. I think she can't appeal it unless they agree to hear the appeal, or something like that....
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:47 PM
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7. The Party can put the skids under her.
Once Obama has the winning number of delegates, any attempts by Clinton to change the outcome will make her look completely unhinged. The party leaders will be able to marginalize her and bring her to a screeching halt.

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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:49 PM
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9. How?
That's what I'm wondering. There isn't really anything they can do, is there?
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 07:09 PM
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16. Like I said, they can marginalize her.
They can simply stop talking about her or to her with regard to the nomination. They can bluntly say, "It's over." They can very publicly sideline her and focus on Obama vs McCain. That's the stick.

The carrot is that Obama is already working on ways to help her make a graceful and positive transition into another key role. Party leaders can reinforce and encourage that.

If they handle it this way, the harder she tries to fight it, the more unhinged she'll appear. She'll become a standing joke in the media, and she'll destroy what credibility and future opportunities are left for her.

Hillary is not stupid. She doesn't have the support or the funding to continue after Obama makes his quota of delegates. Right now, she's obsessed, angry, and borderline delusional -- but she's still not stupid. She will not risk completely destroying her political future.

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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:51 PM
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11. I don't understand how she can go on when all the numbers
and the coming inflow of new supers to Obama put him in every catagory of winning.

people are reallly getting sick of her - will she want them to be sicker still?
maybe.
when you consider the desperation and what really may be at stake for the Clintons, besides losing face and race.

Obama will have insider info on all those bush years and the complicity between the royal family of america.
he must be stopped.
forget face, look at the disgrace, and perhaps (if justice really is for y'all) prison sentences.
they are scraping for their lives now.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:53 PM
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12. When Obama gets his 2118, the DNC will announce that he's the presumptive nominee.
Then the machinery starts moving, and on July 1, Howard Dean turns over leadership of the DNC and the Democratic Party to the presumptive nominee, who appoints members to all of the DNC committees, INCLUDING THE CREDENTIALS COMMITTEE. If Clinton doesn't knock off her bullshit, Obama doesn't even have to let her make a fucking speech at the convention, much less mount a floor fight.

This time, the horror movie monster really IS dead.
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:55 PM
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13. Who the hell can stop this nut ball?
Good gawd!
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