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Mon Jun-02-08 08:03 AM
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Is this Michelle Obama video reality?? |
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I'm sure I will get tar and feathered for even bringing it up. The problem is, it's being brought up in a lot of places and if it truly exists, that is a serious, serious problem.
I hope it is typical right-wing BS, but I hear many dems talking about it as well.
Fire away...
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:05 AM
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2. Larry Johnson just posted his update to his blog |
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It garbage...it's a lot of I heard from someone who knows someone who saw the tape garbage.
That guy is the scum of the earth.
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:22 AM
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10. the fact that Roger Stone is the person who talked to FOX..... |
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proves that this is a traditional (and officially sanctioned) Republican dirty trick / whisper campaign.
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:06 AM
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3. If MO said "Whitey something . . . " I don't think that compares to using War as a resume builder.nt |
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:37 AM
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:56 AM
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23. That vote is relevant beyond the Primaries, in the GE, because many folks are |
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Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 08:58 AM by patrice
feeling betrayed by the IWR. It IS evidence that the system no longer works for us. People, Red, Blue, Pink, Purple, WANT to punish someone for the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq. McCain is at least in the position of trying to "make good" on the error by pumping more lives and money into it. He will talk about "victory". HC isn't in the position of trying to make good on the war. She CAN'T talk about Victory and Bring The Troops Home AND she voted for it. It's Kerry all over again. She will say, "I was lied to just like the rest of you." But to believe that, all of us must think that she isn't smart enough to have seen the lie like many others saw it and voted No. She vaunts this great political savvy, EXCEPT when she needs to blame things on others.
The Hillary all of us have come to know has demonstrated in this Primary season and throughout her life that she WILL do anything for her political goals. That includes an at least 50:50 probability that she supported an at least 50:50 probability of War BECAUSE she planned to run for pResident. And, yes, I know that 50:50 (in both of those sets of conditions) is indeterminent, but that's a conservative estimate of the sets of factors at the time and, given the risks to benefit ratio for WE THE PEOPLE, and the most horrible things in the World happening, the risk was waaaaaayyy tooooooo high.
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:14 AM
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27. There may also be a significant number of Repubs who will hold their nose & vote McC and then vote |
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Blue the rest of the way to control him.
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:08 AM
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4. Thank you for your concern |
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The tape is in Al Capone's vault and as soon as Geraldo opens the vault the whole world will see it.
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:09 AM
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5. I sense your genuine concern |
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Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 08:10 AM by dems_rightnow
Seriously.
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YEM
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:10 AM
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6. Actually, I'm very concerned. Why would I want to lose?? |
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:14 AM
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7. The word "Rovian" is overused. THIS is a Rovian tactic. |
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(not the OP, the supposed existence of this video)
All one has to do is suggest that a video exists and get everybody talking about it. There is a segment of the populace that, even though they never any such video, will remember that "Obama's wife screamed "whitey" in a church in 3 or 4 months.
It's like Obama being sworn into the Senate on a Koran. It never happened, but there are people who are convinced that it did.
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:20 AM
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8. What is the best way to combat nasty rumors? |
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:30 AM
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17. 1) Issue a clear statement that they're untrue. 2) Ignore them thereafter |
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Having Michelle at events where the public gets to see her and "know" her wouldn't hurt either. People are less prone to accept unsubstantiated rumors about people of whom they have a positive impression.
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:34 AM
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18. I don't agree completely with 'issue a clear statement' |
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I think you have to consider the offensiveness of the rumor. For example, I agree with Obama touting his Christianity to combat Muslim rumors, but I don't think that he should justify Larry Sinclair with an official response.
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:35 AM
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20. "Go tell the press my opponent fucks pigs" |
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"But Senator, that's not true."
"I don't want it out there because it's true, I want to hear him DENY it."
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:22 AM
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9. no it is viral bullshit and you know it. |
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:23 AM
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11. Larry Johnson, an avid Clinton supporter is pushing this. Why wouldn't he realease it sooner? |
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No, he decides to wait until after all the primaries are over where it wouldn't do clinton as much good, does that really make sense
johnson is an asshole. He is alluding something without proof
I wouldn't be surprised if he was working for the republicans trying to destroy the Democratic chances.
He has been saying this crap for months, and yet nothing
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:25 AM
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12. there isn't anything to actually release......this is just a last minute rumor to try and freeze.... |
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:02 AM
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24. he has been pushing a so-called tape, and yes I agree there isn't any substance |
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:26 AM
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13. About as real as emails claiming Obama is a muslim. This is why they start BS |
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because they know idiots believe it
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:27 AM
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15. Your "concern" is noted. |
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Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 08:27 AM by IWantAnyDem
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:10 AM
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26. Thanks for keeping track of certain things. nt |
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:35 AM
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19. The same GOP goon who was behind the 'BO is muslim' emails is behind this, according to a DU thread |
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:36 AM
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21. Why of course it is. They have already established it as fact |
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Welcome to the netherworld.
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:07 AM
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25. Here is the most plausible explanation of the tape... |
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It's a sick distortion at best..at worst it will be a heavily doctored version trying to remove all context. This is what you get when they have no real ammunition to use against him. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6223410&mesg_id=6223410
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If the tape exists at all, it's obviously a CIA cut and paste job, just like all the video tapes from Osama Goldstein that keep surfacing whenever it's convenient for the Bush Crime Family.
Odds are that Larry's edits were a little too obvious and they pulled the plug on the project.
Or maybe the Hillary campaign themselves told Thug Larry not to bother since other reports today have Hillary finally accepting reality.
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