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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 10:09 AM
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2117 will end it! "One thing about superdelegates is that they can change their minds", Hillary says
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 10:22 AM by themartyred
There's something seriously off-kilter with what's going on in her mind.

I'm not sure what it is, or where it's coming from, but so many people, including me, have been wrong about when she'll drop out, time and time again. And now, on-board her plane today, she says that uncomfortable line about the superdelegates.

At this stage, I see her going on with this embarrassing behavior until the media tires of showing her breakdown - meaning - never.

Honestly, could ANYONE imagine another candidate at any other time in history, saying these things?

We all know who the nominee is - it's the one with over 100 more pledged delegates with only a couple dozen pledged delegates to go. And, it's not as if the superdelegates are behind her, she's trailing by over 40 there.

If we're told repeatedly by the media, that xx% of Clinton supporters are going to vote for McCain and we should be worried, I'd hate to see the figures come convention time if Hillary were the nominee only by securing it through this bizarre display of what I'd call a "win at all costs even if I create a scorched Earth policy for the eventual nominee in doing so!"

I cannot see how she's going to do anything but remain in the media saying these things and hoping for something horrible to happen until the SD's cast their votes, regardless if he gets promises from the number he needs to surpass 2118 before the convention. This behavior all but certainly will encourage Barack to make a victory speech in a couple days.

Thanks for hurting our party, Hillary! What else can be said about someone who would keep up this rhetoric time and again? I sure can't think of anything else. Okay, maybe one more thing - seeing her now makes me feel like I'm watching someone who's cuckoo and the clock's striking twelve...
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 10:12 AM
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1. Well according to her delegates "pledged delegates" can change their minds too.
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 10:13 AM by 4themind
So she really had no basis for even thinking that "It'll be over by Feb 5" unless she assumed that Obamaet. al would drop out when she reached or approached the "magic number", even IF the delegates could change their minds at the convention. It would really look like she was applying different standards for her opponents at the time, than she is applying to herself now.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 10:23 AM
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5. oh yes, the pledged delegates can change their mind ploy she was running
in one of the Dakotas... that was really embarrassing. She will do anything to win... terrifying.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 10:16 AM
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2. Will the DNC come out with an
"and the winner is" statement?

Even if they do, I see her carrying on. If we were reading about a character in a book who was behaving this way, we'd think the author has jumped the shark. It's difficult to believe this is really happening.
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 10:24 AM
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8. When the delegates actually vote at the convention. nt
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 10:26 AM
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9. Yes! if we read a book
and saw this character in it, we'd find the character so unbelievable we'd question the author's ability to make a good book! Good one gateley... And, based on her campaign's response to the DNC decision, I'd have to agree, even if they make statements that Obama has met the # needed to be the nominee she will stick around waiting for vultures...

I don't trust her. And it's better we feel like she's NEVER going to stop trying to secure this. I'll join the others in that 'room' finally, and say, she's never going away... LOL
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 10:16 AM
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3. According to Hilly's logic, any delegate can change their mind any time.
"It's not ova! It's never ova!!"
--- Sylvester Stallone, in his most dramatic role ever, John Rambo, from the film RAMBO
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mohc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 10:23 AM
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6. What I see happening
Obama will secure a nice cushion, 50 delegates or so, over the 2117 mark. A large portion of Clinton Superdelegates will flip to Obama believing it will bring about an end to the race. Clinton will use the flipping of Superdelegates as evidence that Superdelegates can change their mind at any time. Now down 400+ delegates, Clinton will insist she must stay in because all she needs is 200+ Obama Superdelegates to flip in order to win. If any more SDs flip to Obama, this is simply more evidence that SDs can flip, if no more flip, she is no worse off.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 10:30 AM
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14. LOL! and the cycle will continue - and she will have to be carted off, babbling "I can do this!" eom
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 10:21 AM
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4. It's 2117
Nobody has updated the numbers from Rep. Al Wynn resigning. His seat is open until Donna Edwards wins in a couple weeks.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 10:24 AM
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7. 2117?
You mean she's going to stay in the race for another 109 years?
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 10:28 AM
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11. IF IT TAKES THAT LONG!
She will do anything for the Harriet Christian's of the world who believe she is the best candidate and we're all just supporting an inadequate black male! (that video I just saw was painful, and her saying God D... America, brought back that ugly Wright story)
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 10:28 AM
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10. That was a particulalry ill-advised statement n/t
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 10:29 AM
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12. I'll say that any day instead of a Harriet Christian response, ty eom
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 10:30 AM
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13. I think he should just ignore all this.
He will be the nominee presumptive.

If he claims a victory he really won't have until the convention, he becomes the nominee presumptuous.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 10:38 AM
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15. we can bet there is lots of discussion about declaring or not...
I'd love to hear the arguments for and against. You're right though, as he's done a very good job of ignoring her behavior so far, why start now!
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