What Larry Johnson, repukes and some hillary supporters are doing to Michelle Obama is racist.

[cali]

pure and ugly and it's sick making. really, really beyond the pale. Why is it racism? Because for months now these disgusting pigs have been trying to paint Michelle and Barack as racists with NO evidence whatsoever. Her senior thesis, their association with Trinity and Reverend Wright, trying to associate them with radical black nationalism, etc. What has Michelle said that could possibly be interpreted as racist? Absolutely nothing.

There's something so repulsive about all of this, that it's hard to wrap my mind around it and even harder to articulate well.

As for Hillary supporters who keep asking why Obama supporters are reacting so strongly to this: Think. This is the worst kind of bigoted vile swift boating.

Silence is not an option.

And yes Larry Johnson is a piece of filth. A racist piece of filth. And his website is a sick reflection of how deranged some Hillary fans have become.

[americanstranger]

1. This is for Larry.

- as

[WeDidIt]

7. You do realize that is now the de facto image

for any tinfoil nuttery or unsubstantiaed rumor mongering on DU for all time now, don't you?

[americanstranger]

30. I'll wear it like a badge of honor.

Never liked that guy, even when he was supposedly 'on our side.'

- as

[leveymg]

109. Johnson's site is down. But, this is what Johnson wrote:

According to a Houston Chronicle on-line columnist: http://www.chron.com/commons/persona.html?newspaperUserId=desperado&plckController=PersonaBlog&plckScript=personaScript&plckElementId=personaDest&plckPersonaPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3AdesperadoPost%3A22b7f3fe-24ad-4bc5-868c-b3798f622612

This is what he posted:

"I learned over the weekend why the Republicans who have seen the tape of Michelle Obama ranting about "whitey" describe it as "STUNNING." I have not seen it but I have heard from five separate sources who have spoken directly with people who have seen the tape. It features Michelle Obama and Louis Farrakhan. They are sitting on a panel at Jeremiah Wright’s Church when Michelle makes her intemperate remarks. Whoops!!"

If he's wrong (apparently), he must not have been much an intelligence analyst to begin with. If he's wrong, and did this hoax knowingly, he's out of his mind.

[babylonsister]

2. Rec'd. You're so right; he's a contemptible POS, as is anyone

else who's getting a kick out of floating this.

[Saturday]

3. I missed it.

What did LJ say about MO?

[George II]

91. Apparently the OP missed it too....he/she was too interested in sliming other Democrats to worry...

....about what presumably might have been said!

[Maraya1969]

111. Someone started a rumor that MO was on a tape calling people "Whiteys"

No one has been able to produce the tape though.

[George II]

116. But it becomes a DU thread with 100+ responses....unbelievable!

[butterfly77]

4. Also this comment by this nutty woman..

calling Obama an inadequate black man really got my blood boiling. Hillary says this in so many words,"He can't win" "I am the better candidate" etc..

[FrenchieCat]

5. I am repulsed beyond measure.......

and if Hillary Clinton and her supporters believe that these racist smear tactics are not harming Hillary Clinton more than anyone else, they are sadly mistaken.

[guruoo]

71. You mean, like she should be held accountable for other's words? ....

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/FrenchieCat/217

[krkaufman]

72. Hillary should be held accountable for her own words ....

... and how her misleading her supporters as to the "fairness" of her defeat is pushing many to extreme positions. Clinton has been startlingly irresponsible during this campaign.

[JoFerret]

73. Oh stop being reasonable

Stamp your feet and rend your clothing. Have the full tantie. 'Tis so much more satisfying.

[emilyg]

100. Haa!!!! hee.

[SeaLyons]

105. ....

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Gman]

120. The only people who give a damn

is a few wild-eyed Obama surrogates.

[BuyingThyme]

6. Yes, and if Larry were making the case that Bill Clinton referred to people as niggers,

he'd and his ilk would be forced to put up or shut up--before anybody bothered to disseminate the story.

[IsItJustMe]

37. You just wanted to say the "N" word. Didn't you? Admit it.

[Blue_Roses]

8. yep and Roger Stone is behind this. You know who he is right?

dirtiest, political "trickster" and got his start in the Nixon era. He's beyond repulsive.

[VolcanoJen]

53. Is Roger Stone, in fact, behind this?

It's a bullshit racist fear-mongering lameass myth hoax anyway, but if Roger Stone's fingerprints are on it, that's just plain proof of how fucked up this is.

[Stephanie]

60. He's promoting it >

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6223788

[Blue_Roses]

69. Roger Stone is behind so much that never gets pinned on him...

he needs to be watched close. He will be stirring some serious shit up from now till the GE.

"I would remind all readers that one man's "dirty trick" is another man's "democracy in action." It's all in the eye of the beholder. Generally speaking, Liberals abhor political dirty tricks - unless they are perpetrated by Democrats like Bobby Kennedy, Richard J. Daley, Lyndon Johnson or Dick Tuck - then they're clever and funny. Frankly, I don't want someone who doesn't have the guts to do what ever it takes to win the Presidency running the country.":puke:

He also has this:

"MICHELLE OBAMA HIT NEXT?

The Presidential contest between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama is likely to be roiled in coming days by revelations that Michelle Obama made racist comments in a speech for which there is allegedly an indelible record. This is why Hillary Clinton is still in the race and why her people have been in a race with Republican Opposition Researchers to get their hands on the offensive recording.

On the heels of Michelle Obama's quote that she "has never been proud of her country" until now, the new controversy could turn the contest up-side down but is more likely to redound to the benefit of John McCain than to boost Hillary Clinton to the nomination- if the alleged recording exists.

Mark Penn, who "resigned" as the Clinton Campaign strategist but is still the Clinton campaign strategist told intimates the bombshell "could come this week"


http://stonezone.com/

[BigDDem]

9. Ah, the racist card comes out yet again.

Good luck with that in the GE!

[ellacott]

10. You don't see race in this?

THAT is funny.

[GarbagemanLB]

11. Spreading a rumor about a black person saying 'Whitey', without any proof to back it up, is racist.

[ellacott]

16. You all puzzle me with your definition of that word

So who's the racist?

[polmaven]

103. And exactly what is

spreading a rumor about white men saying "these people are s**its" and "white ni**er" ?

[WeDidIt]

12. If you don't consider what Johnson is doing to be racist

then you'd better take a looooong look at yourself in the mirror.

[cali]

13. You either stand with racist filth Larry Johnson or you condemn his

appalling racist smears. It's really that simple. I haven't had to think twice about condemning people who've attacked Hillary on Vince Foster, Huma Albedin, etc.

It's not a fucking game. Racist filth should be called on their slime and denounced.

[BigDDem]

14. You're for us or against us, decide!

Thanks "W"

[WeDidIt]

15. That response tells me all I need to know about your character

or rather, the lack thereof.

[cali]

74. there are some things and some people and some situatiions

where that is absolutely true. W or not.

[papau]

97. Are there any negative comments about the Obamas that are not - in your opinion- racist?

[emilyg]

101. Relax. You stopped making sense.

[EFerrari]

21. You have a problem with calling out racist bullshit?

[Beacool]

17. Oh yeah, how could I forget,

Can't question either Obama on anything, because it's automatically racist.

Call his position on the Iraq war a "fairy tale" = racist

State that MLK's dreams became a reality when LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 = racist

Question his association with certain inflammatory people (Rezko, Wright, Ayres, etc.) = racist

Etc., etc., etc.

Is this what we can expect from a potential Obama presidency????

[ellacott]

18. How was associating him to Rezko racist?

That's a new one for me.

[Beacool]

24. I meant that anyone who brings up almost anything

on Obama is immediately called either a racist or a race baiter. Ditto for the people who haven't voted for him. They are called uneducated and racist. My opinion of Obama has zero to do with his race, I would feel the same about this guy if he were white, hispanic or any other racial combination.

[ellacott]

26. I think that's an exaggeration that I've seen repeated on this board

I think some of the Hillary supporters got overly sensitive when West Virginia and Kentucky had their primaries.

I don't agree that people are called racists just because they criticize Obama. The fairy tale comment and the MLK/LBJ comment has been discussed ad nauseum on this board but some people have closed their minds on any discussion. That's unfortunate.

[Beacool]

32. How about the Bobby Kennedy comment and the ensuing mass hysteria

of a large number of Obama's supporters and the media?

I will readily agree that Hillary's remarks were insensitive, but anybody with half a brain and an ounce of objectivity would have known that she meant the time line of the primary season. Furthermore, she had already brought it up previously without much ado.

The Clintons may be a lot of things, but they are not racists. Obama and I are the same age, when we didn't even know how to wipe our noses both Clintons were young kids fighting for civil rights. I deeply resent that many seem to have mass amnesia and have forgotten what they have done and continue to do for minorities.

For goodness sakes, there are more than a million people alive today in Africa who owe their lives to the Clinton Foundation. The AIDS drugs that they have received have prolonged the lives of many and will continue to do so. Bill could have just taken it easy and after his heart problems curtailed his schedule. He has done nothing of the sort and continues to fly to Africa and Latin America to check on the progress of the foundation's programs personally. Does this sound like a man who doesn't give a damn abut other people?

[ellacott]

34. The huge problem that I have is that people are saying that the Clintons are racists

Or that the Obama camp called them racists. I do believe many of the statements were insensitive but they were not racist. The problem that I found that whenever the conversation tried to address the insensitive comments the reactions were almost unanimous in claiming that the Clintons were being accused of being racists. Hillary was doing this herself and this was something that revealed a lot about her character.

We can never have a conversation about race because so many people reach for that word "racist" and throws it out there which suffocates any discourse.

[Beacool]

41. I agree, but check every LF blog and you'll see how many times

they have both been called racists. Too many to count, plus the ensuing vitriol. Many white people who have always considered themselves past the race issue were truly hurt to see that there ARE many differences after all.

Take Rev. Wright, as appalling as some of his sermons were to many people, the reaction of his parishioners was even more depressing to many of us. Ditto for Pfleger. How can so many people cheer a priest who from the PULPIT said the kind of nasty and incendiary remarks that he said against a former Democratic First Lady, a sitting US senator and presidential candidate?

[ellacott]

45. I remember the first persons using the words racist were the Clintons

They of all people knew the words they chose and how they would be received. They weren't prepared to their statement. They also don't know how to apologize so they immediately cried racism. Bill went on a series of Black talk radio shows and was very disrepectful to some of the guests. I honestly don't believe that the First Black President, along with his wife would be so clumsy in this area especially considering their history. It left many people believing that this wasn't a slip up.

As far as Rev. Wright and Father Pfleger instead of being depressed why not try starting a dialogue to find out why those words were received with such enthusiasm. As far as Father Pfleger I listened to the tape of the angry Clinton supporter who said Obama was an "inadequate Black man" and Father Pfleger's words came back to my mind. To his credit he has apologized for his comments

[Beacool]

48. I must admit that I have no idea what Bill said on those shows.

As for the woman, I think that she was truly so angry that she said certain things that she may not have otherwise. Then again, I don't know this woman and she may just be a jerk.

As for Pfleger, I think that he apologized because the cardinal smacked him down.

Either way, I don't know if we'll ever have an honest discussion on race in this country.

[ellacott]

50. I still have hope that we can have this discussion

As far as Father Pfleger, regardless of the reason, he did apologize. He could have chosen to not apologize. If they would have ex-communicated him he would have still had a following and could have easily started his own church.

[IsItJustMe]

40. Don't know about all that, but I will tell you this, that HARD WORKING WHITE PEOPLE line that

Hillary used was racist code if I ever did see it. Which makes me take some of her other comments made, in a new light. That is for sure.

[Beacool]

42. She was quoting the AP.

Again, an insensitive remark even if it was true. At least as far as proven by the exit polls in OH, IN, PA, WV and KY.

[VolcanoJen]

63. Quoting the AP? The AP now editorializes in their reporting?

Please provide the link where the AP uses the exact words "hard-working Americans, white Americans" to describe Hillary's support. If the AP didn't use those words, then Hillary was not quoting the AP, and the premise of your post is debunked.

quote /kwoʊt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, quot·ed, quot·ing, noun
–verb (used with object)
1. to repeat (a passage, phrase, etc.) from a book, speech, or the like, as by way of authority, illustration, etc.
2. to repeat words from (a book, author, etc.).
3. to use a brief excerpt from: The composer quotes Beethoven's Fifth in his latest work.
4. to cite, offer, or bring forward as evidence or support.
5. to enclose (words) within quotation marks.

[hfojvt]

46. Hillary was a member of the College Republicans in 1965-66

when Obama was 5 and I was four. Pretty sure we both knew how to wipe our noses and that she wasn't doing much for civil rights yet. I agree that their record with minority issues is pretty good, but I am not sure anybody respectable said that the RFK comment was racist.

[Beacool]

49. She was a Goldwater Girl when she was all of 17 years old.

She remained a Republican her first year in college, after that she changed political affiliation.

[madrchsod]

65. subtract a large percentage of 800,000 people in rwanda

and you`ll see bill did`t save more than a million.

[suzie]

108. How many innocent people were massacred in Rwanda because Bill Clinton did nothing?

Perhaps Bill Clinton is atoning for an error in judgment that he has confessed to. Or perhaps Molly Ivins is correct, he's "weak as bus station chili". Instead of the strong, charismatic politician that we've all been told endlessly that he is, maybe he's just a politician who supremely lacks any kind of moral courage.

We all know that Clinton thrived on opinion polls--and his supporters have continued to point out how popular he was when he left office. And we all know that there are a lot or racists out there in America. Perhaps his polling would gone down had he intervened in an African nation.

Maybe it takes far less fortitude to appear philanthropic once one has left office. And maybe appearing philanthropic would be a great help to one's wife's campaign. Questions about the family getting paid off to pardon drug dealers--look at how much he's done in Africa. Questions about pardoning terrorists to help buy his wife a Senate seat in a state where they had no background--look at how he flies to Latin America.

Sounds exactly like a man who doesn't give a damn about other people.

[VolcanoJen]

62. Just because you think some things don't qualify as actual racism...

... certainly does not mean that this Larry Johnson example doesn't. You can't just absolve everything because one time you feel an accusation was unwarranted. It's irrational.

[EFerrari]

23. How can you forget that racism is racism? That's a good question. n/t

[Beacool]

27. There are obviously some truly racists attitudes in our country,

but I'm sick to death of too many people, most of them loyal Democrats, being labeled racists for questioning Obama's positions on almost anything. I even heard someone on the radio months ago say that Hillary should leave the race to make room for the black man. How many women have we had as president? How is her bid any less historical than his?

Do you understand some of the anger that leads to that woman from NY to end up saying some outrageous things? Hillary was called every name under the sun by the MSM, but no one could question Obama without being labeled racist. Racism = Bad Sexism = OK

Please understand that I don't mean that there aren't plenty of racists creeps out there.

[EFerrari]

39. Do you understand that you are justifying the rantings of a racist?

And that this thread is not about Hillary?

I've yet to see most of you Hillarians address even ONE of Obama's positions. Your assertion is completely and transparently bogus.

[Beacool]

43. I'm not defending Larry Johnson.

I should have pointed out sooner that I think the guy is a total jerk. I for one, have never uttered a negative word about Michelle.

[dionysus]

28. if you can't see racism in this you are far beyond hope for redemption...

:puke:

[NorthernSpy]

33. beacool on blacks: "that's why I'm no longer in their corner" (Mar 12 08)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5045717#5046455

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48. Yep, that's why I'm no longer in their corner.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. I now know that there's no such thing as being color blind, and that not all racists happen to be white.........

This, because blacks have dared to turn thumbs-down on Hillary's candidacy, after all she's (allegedly) done for them.


So when you sneer at Cali's comment -- that Larry Johnson's smear-mongering is racist -- you do not seem to be speaking from a position of good faith. After all, you're admittedly not "in the corner" of the race Johnson is targeting. So if his smears don't bother you, that's really no evidence against Cali's contention.

[Beacool]

35. I was referring to the concerted effort of making both Clintons appear as racists.

I will continue to argue as long as it takes that neither Clinton is racist. Ditto for the majority of Hillary's supporters.

I have never once called an Obama supporter sexist for not supporting Hillary, but how many have called her supporters racists for not voting for Obama?????

The remarks you quote were due to my disillusionment that after thinking for years that race shouldn't matter, it does matter and that racism flows both ways.

[hfojvt]

47. How many have and how many have not?

Some Hillary supporters HAVE called Obama supporters or Hillary haters sexist for not voting for Hillary, and many Obama supporters have not called Hillary supporters racist just for supporting Hillary. However, when a Hillary supporter says they will not vote for Obama in the General election there does seem to be an obvious reason why.

[Raineyb]

58. You also have a rather low opinion of black people

If you think we are so easily lead around that we would turn on someone because a politicians told us something their opponent said was racist.

We're perfectly capable of determining if we think something is racist for ourselves.

Condescend much?

Regards

[Tinksrival]

68. Way to change the subject

Your post is stupid.

[KSinTX]

77. You conflate the candidate with his/her supporters

The day you see the verified username "BarackObama" here, then and only then can you suggest this is the candidate speaking. I have yet to hear him or his campaign make any of the assertions you list.

[NorthernSpy]

19. they're making a serious attempt to promote racial paranoia against a vulnerable minority group...

It's dangerous and destructive, and truly a wicked thing to do.

[Stephanie]

20. K&R

Just unbelievable.

[EFerrari]

22. K&R

[cui bono]

25. WOW! I just looked at his site. Shocking.

Hadn't been there in a long time and the first thing on there is about Obama being sexist because he said Hillary will be a big asset in November.

Sexist??? WTF??? He's totally lost the plot.

[papapi]

29. Amen

[IndianaJones]

31. so, does the racism concern switch get turned off in November? nt.

[NorthernSpy]

36. Try us and see...

.

[IndianaJones]

38. us, as in newly concerned white people? ya ain't got this minority fooled. nt.

[apocalypsehow]

44. Uh-huh. And I believe *THAT* about like I believe in the tooth fairy...

:eyes:

[VolcanoJen]

64. By that metric, Hillary will no longer encounter any sexism going forward to November.

:shrug:

I've really never understood why Clinton supporters feel that once the nomination is in the bag for her, sexism will cease to exist in America, or something.

[sniffa]

51. Why'd he do that? Why'd he say that?

[VolcanoJen]

52. Thank you, cali.

It needed to be said, and I agree with you strongly.

[H2O Man]

54. he never retired

nominated

[Stephanie]

55. there you go

that explains a lot

[H2O Man]

57. Consider that

he trained with Valerie Plame. She retired early, due to the scandal. And he?

[EFerrari]

70. I think you're right. And, CIA had him help shift blame for the torture tapes

back to Cheney and the Pentagon.

[Raineyb]

56. If I recall correctly what they're doing is called projection

They claim racist leanings in the Obamas to cover up their own.

They fail miserably.

Regards

[Lilith Velkor]

59. Live by the racial swiftboat, die by the racial swiftboat.

:nopity:

[StateSecrets]

61. From: Sibel Edmonds & National Security Whistleblowers

A few months ago Mr. Johnson engaged in similar agenda-driven trashing of my case, and the great work by the investigative journalist, Luke Ryland. We were not able to pinpoint his 'bosses,' whom he serves very loyally. At the time his claim was: He was doing it on behalf of 'Raw Story' and one of their journos.

On behalf of my organization, and our whistleblowers, I will remove Mr. Johnson from our website; we will end his membership. I will not tolerate agenda-driven & racist attitude; it's a disgrace. He shall not use the title 'national security whistleblower' among many honorable members of our organization.


Sincerely,
Sibel Edmonds

[Lilith Velkor]

66. Got a link? I'll show you mine.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/12/obama-camps-memo-on-clin_n_81205.html

Now show me yours, and explain why I should give a damn about any Obama being smeared as a racist. Thank you in advance.

[Name removed]

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[Emit]

67. Thanks, cali, for saying what needed to be said

I read this earlier and couldn't respond because I was at work, but, just wanted to say that this part of what you wrote:

"There's something so repulsive about all of this, that it's hard to wrap my mind around it and even harder to articulate well."

resonated with me because I feel the same way -- it is difficult to articulate and discuss and put one's finger on -- and there is something so repulsive, so wrong about it.

Anyway, not that I'm adding any more insight, but, just thought I'd give you a kick and a :thumbsup: and say thanks for being so honest and outspoken and dead on throughout this primary (and before, of course :))

[ekwhite]

76. K&R

And Larry Johnson can kiss my butt.

[Tarc]

78. Ahh, just had to unblock for a moment to check out this latest horseshit

Seems that there's a lot of people who have seen the video and have verified its contents. I'd certainly like to see it produced now rather than wait til October, so he can bow out now rather than pull a 49-1 Mondale redux. But the suggestion that all of this itself is racist is laughably ridiculous.

The Obamas attended a racist, bigoted, hate-filled church for 20 damned years, and only quit when it became a political liability. Not a moral liability. And now their past is ap parently coming back to haunt them.

Karma's a bitch.

[rateyes]

80. Yeah, lots have seen it, and the press is holding it back

even if they do get scooped on a story. :sarcasm:

You'll believe anything that is anti-Obama. Pathetic.

[Tarc]

81. Go have another sip, kool-aid boy

You're gettin all dried up.

[rateyes]

84. I don't drink Larry Johnson kool-aid,

that would be you. You believe it. So, put up or shut up. Let's see the vid that was supposed to be out yesterday.

:crickets:

[Emit]

89. Where's 'the video'?

:shrug:

[rateyes]

79. Once again, I find myself agreeing with you, cali.

:kick: and rec

[windoe]

82. Lowering the discourse

is a tactic that has been used on both sides, to distract from the real issues, and unfortunately successful as long as people take the bait.
The candidates ability to stay on message and handle the press is helped by us also staying on message--and not feeding the (troll) monsters. I am concerned that these kinds of attacks are successful as long as they are keeping us occupied.
I am very concerned that this kind of low discourse by the corporate media will be successful, they are trying to prevent their own demise by preventing a person getting into office who is not corporate.
Politicians work in shark pits for a living, I have to remind myself of this so I do not take what is said personal (because I feel as if I have been slapped) and not attract people who just love to get into the fray.
I agree--silence is not an option, racism must be called every time, but I am concerned that this button will be pushed continually just to derail this campaign!!
These are definitely low blows here, but if the Obamas can stand up and rise above this filth, so can I.

[BobbyVan]

83. As a Hillary supporter, I totally agree

Michelle Obama's remarks on that tape are completely irrelevant to the larger issues that the US faces in the coming election.

[wowimthere]

85. Old... outdated.... backwards thinking... Wilson, Johnson and the Clintons

These are not true progressives. Obama is the new breed of politician but I hope Obama, after his 8 years in office will know when it's time to give someone else a say in how our democracy works. Johnson and the like are hangers-ons. They have opinions but it's frightening to see someone who decried the Bush folly be so vitriol about a Democrat. And yes, given his background, nothing he or the Wilson's have done surprise me. They want things to stay pretty much the same. they should learn that spreading the wealth makes all people happy.

[GoldieAZ49]

86. eh, it is just their 'chickens coming home to roost' no big deal

unless of course you thought the Obamas were perfect.

They dealt the race card early on off the bottom of the deck. What goes around comes around.

:nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity:

cry me a river.

[2rth2pwr]

93. LOL!

[mrs_p]

87. makes me sick to my stomach

that people go out of their way to smear her. i don't believe she made racist remarks (she probably said something like why'd he). if this tape truly existed, it would be out by now! and the fact that democrats enable this kind of gop crap is beyond me. i think the obamas should be proactive in this and release the tape (if it existed) before the gop - oh, i mean fox. i don't believe she said anything racist and they should just prove it.

[George II]

88. I see you're at it again....

Not surprisingly, there is NOTHING specific that your nasty post refers to, it's just typical "Cali" garbage.

Further, why lump Hillary Clinton supporters in with republicans? Isn't it time for ALL "democrats" to start sticking together instead of slamming each other and referring to other democrats as "deranged"? Methinks you have a guilty conscience!!

[vaberella]

92. Tell Roger Stone that...

He went on the record (Hannity's radio show) as saying the Clinton camp has the alleged tape and further more he said his sources told him so. So therefore, the Clinton camp gets the blame for this not the GOP.

I hate the thought people are playing games with my vote. And utilizing a tape in such a way is someone messing with my vote.

However I wouldn't say that this game is racist. People are just randomly throwing that word around without knowing it's meaning. It's dirty politics and definitely fucks with the citizens who read blogs and the news, yet there's nothing racist here.

[BenDavid]

90. excuse me, but if the video exist that shows her using racist remarks

then all your ranting and raving will be for nought. Do I believe there is such a video? NOOOOOOOOO
But to say when someone posts something about her is racist, that is absurd.

I'm waiting for the speech obama will give asking forgiveness from the clinton's for his campaign doing all it could to paint them both as white surpremists.

If you obama folks believe the gop will back off using whatever means necessary to win in november then you are in for a rude awakening.

At this moment in time, you all better hope and pray there is not a video with her using a racist remark.

[leveymg]

110. I really resent your using the Star of David to stir up shit at this site about racism.

If Johnson had a hand in intentionally promoting a hoax, then it's hardly absurd to condemn him for being both a liar and a racist. In addition, he's proven himself a fool if it turns out he repeated a lie about a tape he's never even heard.

What, exactly, has Obama said that paints the Clintons as white supremacists?

Trolls. :eyes:

[George II]

117. HuH? You are LOOKING for issues - check his/her other posts, that's the Avatar this person chose!!!

Has nothing to do with the individual post, dolt!

[leveymg]

121. Has everything to do with his message.

The avatar frames the person's message and identity. To use religious symbolism -- particularly the Judaic identifier -- to communicate a message of racial divisiveness is the ultimate act of Kantian bad faith. It is shameful to misuse one's heritage for such dishonest and harmful purposes against another historically persecuted group.

Dolt?

[Gman]

94. How is it different from calling Hillary a "fucking whore"?

I have a real problem with the faux outrage from Obama surrogates over this when they are perfectly happy and content with Hillary being called a "fucking whore".

[pjt7]

95. I have followed no-quarter

website for a month or so & they have 100% lost any reasonable discussion level.

It's VERY sad considering Larry Johnson is supposed to be an US intelligence expert.

On intelligence matters, I posted his observation's a year or so ago on some on-line discussion room & people killed his character. I was suprised, but I guess they were on to something, since his web-site has gone P-O-S-T-A-L...

[Teaser]

96. when have I been OK with that?

I'm an Obama supporter/surrogate (I suppose). When have I been ok with calling her such a name?

[Jakes Progress]

98. Good for you

if you found that offensive. But you can't be unaware that there are multiple 200-rec posts here that revel in that kind of invective directed toward Clinton. Most do just as the OP did. Lump Clinton in with anyone who doesn't support Obama. There is no indication that this bit of questionable video has anything to do with the Clinton camp. If the suggestion that her campaign has the tape is true, then it only proves what an honorable and decent person she is for not releasing it back when it would have made a difference. This reminds me of the Henry Fonda character in the movie "Advise and Consent".

But nevertheless, the OP can't help but use this thread to take another cheap shot at Hillary. Hate is a debilitating disease. It eats your brain and shrivels your heart.

The sad truth is that if this tape exists, the republicans are holding it until the Democratic convention. Doctored or not, such a tape would kill any convention bump that Obama could expect. It would not be totally unexpected that some variant of this script might show up. The Trinity church dealt in this kind of language all the time. I have visited black churches that preached this way with friends who viewed the rhetoric as cathartic and cleansing. But they told me they worried about the members who take it to heart and live it. We can bemoan the factors in our country that would let someone speaking their mind be a hinderance to elected office, but those factors are there. Let us pray that the tape is completely fabricated rumor.

[emilyg]

102. Glad to see I'm not the only one

who noticed.

[Gman]

119. There was never, ever any thread posted by ANY Obama surrogate

denouncing the calling of Hillary a "fucking whore". When I posted about how wrong it was to say that to not only Hillary but the Honorable Geraldine Ferraro the thread got flamed by Obama surrogates who almost to the person defended Randi Rhodes. Then they have the audacity to post a thread like this without looking at their own.

What a bunch of friggin' no class hypocrites.

[Deep13]

99. As someone who does not pay much attention to blogs...

...maybe you could tell me who Larry Johnson is.

[MattNC]

104. I see

Larry Johnson/The Wall Street/FOX News are pushing that a "bombshell" will drop tomorrow about Michelle. No details of course.

[pingzing58]

106. If she can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.

[busymom]

107. I'm not a big fan

of Michelle Obama, but I agree.

The Whitey thing is absolutely ridiculous.

[BobbyVan]

112. A hint of things to come?

[brooklynite]

113. Wow, that's a scary picture...

[brooklynite]

114. Um, when even the RWer's are making fun of this story...

you know it hasn't had the desired effect:

BREAKING: MICHELLE OBAMA VIDEO ON YOUTUBE!
MUST CREDIT... well, Hot Air!
By Moe Lane

They disabled embedding for this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOufWYodCc8

And, having finally gone through it all (I was too upset to finish it the first time), I can see why. Ouch.

Just... ouch.

http://redstate.com/

Watch the video.....really!

[BobbyVan]

115. LOL!

[cornermouse]

118. What Obama supporters are doing to Chelsea is obscene.

Clean up your own backyard.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6245320&mesg_id=6245320

[Pushed To The Left]

122. Anybody who tries to keep the Democratic nominee out of the White House is a member of the right-

wing.