Nothing short of a full concession from Clinton will sufficiently unite the Party

[crankychatter]

"Suspension" of her campaign will send a message to her supporters that a convention floor fight, and possible victory could still be in the cards.

NOW, not August, is the time for ALL Democrats to join in full support of the General Election contest.

This is just my humble opinion. Do NOT confuse this with some sort of desire to humiliate Senator Clinton and her supporters. Far from it.

Thanks for listening... read it... respond or let it sink... no matter.

I'll be around and if you vehemently disagree... I'll listen and try not to argue.

peace out kids

cranky-man

[Diane R]

1. Agreed.

[Mike L]

6. She will "suspend" and hope a huge Obama scandal comes out.

SD's can change their minds up to the convention vote.

[roguevalley]

25. www.americablog.com has several stories on its front page about

that very thing:


From Ben Smith:

Ken Vogel reports from the Clinton bubble a Clinton spokesman is pushing back on the notion of a concession soon, something even many of her aides and top supporters now expect. Hillary Clinton will not drop out of the presidential race Tuesday or in several days that follow, the spokesman,Mo Elleithee, said Monday afternoon. "It's pretty clear that she's not conceding," Elleithee told reporters on Clinton's campaign plane en route from Rapid City, S.D. to Sioux City, Iowa.

Instead, Elleithee said Clinton would be "aggressively courting" superdelegates and "putting together the next phase of the campaign," which he said could include campaign events around the country.

More from ABC:

When asked why Clinton was spending tomorrow in New York at an event the campaign is calling a "victory party," Clinton’s spokesperson said, “it’s a good way to close out this phase of the campaign is come to New York bring all of her supporters together, have a big celebratory election night party as we move into the next phase of the campaign which is obviously the courting of these delegates.”

There is another story farther up the front page too. She's not quitting apparently. Not surprised a bit myself. :(

[sundancekid]

2. agree 1,000 %

[LisaM]

3. Give me a break. Edwards' campaign is still suspended.

Now Clinton has to use the language Obama supporters want?

[MindMatter]

7. Edwards gave a clear, unambiguous, enthusiastic endorsement

Don't BS us with semantics. You know the difference and we do too.

[crankychatter]

9. big difference... edwards isn't in close contention... won't impugn "presumptive nominee" status

for Clinton OR Obama

I would feel the same way if Clinton were ahead... that's a fact

I would be calling for Obama to fall in line behind our candidate

we NEED this time with NO distractions...

just my opinion

[book_worm]

4. I'll take and applaud a suspension which is exactly what Edwards did

as long as she vigorously endorses Obama and urges her followers to support him.

[Meshuga]

12. And I think she will endorse whether it is a "suspend" or "consession" n/t

[crankychatter]

14. in that case, I would stand corrected probably

thanks

[klook]

5. She's going to suspend, as Edwards did

so she can continue raising money to pay off campaign debts.

[MindMatter]

10. I see we have the Clinton talking points for today.

No thank you.

[klook]

26. Uh...

Are you suggesting that I'm repeating "Clinton talking points"??

1. I happen to support Obama. 2. I happen to think for myself. 3. I was just making an observation. I do expect Clinton to suspend her campaign, not withdraw. If she withdraws, those debt collectors will start calling pretty damn quick.

Have a nice evening.

[MindMatter]

27. When 4 posters in a row spout the same line

and that line is utterly nonsensical -- after all, Edwards ENDORSED Obama strongly -- yes, I'd say you are carrying the Clinton talking points whether you are doing it intentionally or not.

[klook]

29. I am very happy that Edwards endorsed Obama.

I supported Edwards until he suspended his campaign, and since then I've supported Obama.

Not sure what part of my posts pisses you off. Maybe you need to focus your anger on your enemies, not your allies.

Good evening.

[MindMatter]

30. The part about how it would be just fine for Clinton to suspend her campaign

"just like Edwards" when in fact their motives would be completely opposite. Her motive in suspending the campaign would be to keep the issue unsettled and try to work behind the scenes to unseat Obama before the convention. Edwards, on the other hand has done absolutely nothing harmful to the Party, has never threatened to do anything destructive, and ultimately made an unambiguous endorsement of Obama.

I find the comparison of Obama's stance to Hillary's insulting in the extreme to Edwards.

[klook]

33. Ah, now I'm understanding you a little better.

I said, "She's going to suspend, as Edwards did -- so she can continue raising money to pay off campaign debts."

You assumed I meant Clinton's motive would be the same as Edwards's motive was. Nope. Just that I expect her to suspend, not cancel, her campaign, which is the same thing Edwards did. I agree that Edwards did it the best way possible, although he did wait awhile before unequivocally endorsing Obama.

I agree with you that there is a danger that Clinton's anticipated suspension of her campaign could be a stratagem, and that in so doing she could be waiting for an opening to somehow get back into the race. The Clinton campaign has been fighting tooth and nail every step of the way, so why should they give up now, just because they've obviously lost?

But I don't see how there can be any pretense of fighting on after most of the remaining Senators, Congress members, and other undeclared Superdelegates come out for Obama tomorrow. Obama will be way ahead before they all line up for him, so the Supers won't be overturning anybody's pledged delegate majority. At that point if the Clinton campaign wants to keep going, their support for that will continue to dwindle rapidly.

On edit: The only suitable way for this to play out, it seems to me, is for Clinton to suspend the campaign so she can continue to raise funds to pay off the campaign's staggering debts to all the poor saps who extended them credit, and--more importantly--to unequivocally endorse Obama for President.

[MindMatter]

34. OK. Peace.

[Nite Owl]

8. Suspending means she can still

raise money and she needs it. Actually the people she owes need to be paid. I don't care if she never pays back herself or Penn but many of those owed are ordinary people who need the money.

[Meshuga]

16. That's why I don't think she can concede

But she can suspend and endorse Obama and it will suck if people criticize here for doing that.

[TBF]

19. Suspend & endorse Obama is enough for me. There is no need for

her to be killed (I mean that metaphorically of course). Let the woman have some pride. I think we all need to remember she is not the enemy - that's McCain. I don't care what y'all say about him. ;)

[Window]

24. True that.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

17. Liquidate some stock options.

Problem solved.

[Junkdrawer]

20. What if Obama were to offer her financial help if she concedes?

:shrug:

[crankychatter]

22. depending on our financial condition for the Fall, personally I'd be OK with that

yup

to me it's important that we're all clear... barring some debacle for Obama, he's the one...

again, just MHO

[dems_rightnow]

11. Suspending is the right thing to do

Let it go.

[Tatiana]

13. I don't want blood. Just cooperation in helping to defeat the right-wing. n/t

[tularetom]

15. Coy little hints to the supporters in order to keep the cash flowing

is what I fear we're going to see. She's in so deep financially she needs to get some dough in her hands quick. If she makes an obvious concession the contributions will dry up right now. So she has to keep them thinking she will "fight on". It will make it more difficult for the party and the candidate but it will make it really ugly when she finally has to pull the plug. She has dug herself in way too deep to have any political future at all. When she does quit she's gonna leave a horde of disillusioned supporters who will figure out that their contributions were used to repay her own loans to the campaign.

[jgraz]

18. Um, guys? Hillary ain't going anywhere.

I'll be shocked if she says anything but "full speed to the White House" tomorrow night.

[AtomicKitten]

21. Color me dubious with her hinting SDs can change their minds over the summer.

[Junkdrawer]

23. Yep. Non-committal "acknowledgment" and a suspension is my bet. n/t

[KAZ]

28. She'll do the right thing. Chin up!

[BzaDem]

31. I actually agree

I hope she concedes for the good of the party.

[WA98296]

32. We'll see, it will be interesting.

[apocalypsehow]

35. Oh, I've been convinced for some time now that she is taking this to the convention and beyond.

For HRC, this is all about 2012 now. And for her dreams of 2012 to work, Obama has to lose in '08 to John McCain. That's why she's going to do everything in her power to hurt Obama's chances this fall - including a convention floor fight, and lawsuits after the convention in an attempt to litigate her way to the nomination. Bank on it.

[crankychatter]

36. suspension with a weak endorsement will prove you correct

yup