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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:05 PM
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I'm a proud Obama supporter sad about the way this ending for the Clintons
And I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Despite what folks want to believe I love the Clintons, I really do. I'm pissed as hell about the way they conducted themselves during this campaign, but I love them.

As I have said numerous times, when this campaign started I truly believed that I would enthusiastically support Hillary should she have locked up the nomination and I was PUMPED UP about the prospect of the Big Dawg Bill stumping on Barack's behalf if he became the nominee.

But something changed along the way, its not Obama's fault, its not the media's fault its Clinton's fault.

The constant goal post changing, the constant not so subtle attacks, the not so subtle use of racism to HRC advantage and Obama's detriment (you don't have to be racist to exploit it), the parroting of GOP talking points, the demonization of those of us who didn't fall in line, etc.

What Bill, Hillary and many of her supporters (especially on DU) neglect to understand is that many of us who are so angry at Bill, Hillary and the rest of the Clinton camp are guided not by hate, but by DISAPPOINTMENT.

Disappointment that the man who was fondly referred to by in the African American community as the first Black President and his wife would play with race in a manner one would expect from Republicans.

Disappointment that the woman who rallied against the vast right wing conspiracy was now joining with them in many of their attacks on Obama.

Disappointment that after it became obvious that Obama was going to be the nominee the HRC camp continued to attack Obama and literally praying for something bad to happen.

Bill was the BEST president I ever had. I do not regret the 100's of hours I have defended him and Hillary online, during panel discussions and over beers. I'm so proud to have supported him throughout the impeachment process and I will never ever throw the pictures I got of him when I went to the inaugural in '96 or the numerous memories of fundraiser I have attended on his, Hillary's or the Clinton library's behalf.

As we look to unite the party in the coming weeks, Clinton supporters don't assume that all of us are Clinton haters, even if we have been very critical, think of it more as a family feud in which many us wouldn't be so damned pissed at the Clintons if we didn't love them so much and are more heartbroken about the way they ran this campaign than anything else.

I am sad about this, and not sad because I love Obama, but sad because I love the Clintons and expected them to handle this race with class and dignity. Their reputation is forever changed, its sad but they have no one to blame but themselves.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:06 PM
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1. She was never going to be his VP. He can't govern with Bill Clinton over his shoulder
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:09 PM
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2. It sure has been a good fight. Might make the repub's think twice.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:10 PM
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3. "now joining' the vrwc to attack a Democrat? You should have noticed what they were doing
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 05:16 PM by blm
to undermine other Democrats and sabotage Dem voters the last 8 years and you wouldn't be so surprised they targeted Obama for getting in their way and you wouldn't be so sad to see them go now.

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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:12 PM
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4. As I said I don't regret my previous support of them. . .
. . .many folks warned us, and we didn't see it. True there are a lot of folks like you who might say "I told you so" but I don't regret my previous support and faith in them.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:18 PM
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5. Ok....but....would you REPEAT that level of trust and faith in them when your nation's wellbeing?
is on the line?
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:21 PM
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6. This campaign changed that for me, but I don't regret my previous support. . .
. . .you can try to argue with me all you want but I'm not going to change my stance. Previously I supported them and don't regret it, going forward I don't.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:29 PM
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7. Not arguing with you at all, wndycty. I followed your evolution on this and recognized
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 05:29 PM by blm
the pain you felt every step of the way. I direct these matters to you because I respect all sides of you - the tough, the tender, the loyal and the thoughtful.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:45 PM
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9. Thanks for the kind words
:kick:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:48 PM
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10. No.....not kind. I pride myself on 'accuracy' ;)
heh
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:32 PM
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8. She's not for me, but Hillary did her best; Bill was not at the top of his game
and her advisors totally sucked.

They already had a chance at the White House; eight years at that. The chaos and the drama that marked those years carried over into her campaign. No reason to expect that this time around would have been any better.

Time to move on.
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