Wanna Know What's Tragic About Vanity Fair's Article About Bill Clinton's Skirt Chasing?

[David Zephyr]

Bill Clinton has no one to call anymore to vouch for his personal behavior. That's sad. Because here' a Vanity Fair well-written article by someone who has known Bill Clinton for a long time suggesting that Bill is, yet once again carelessly chasing skirts or appearing to be precariously close to doing so. The article really offers no proof, just gossip.

But the gossipers this time around will find find very few to refute them, who will go out on a limb for him, who will risk their own reputations to defend him. Why? Because I know. I was one of them that did it for years. And I am not alone.

Don't get me wrong: I won't throw a boat anchor at Bill who now is in troubled waters again for his either straying from his wife or giving the impression that he is. But I also won't toss over a life-preserver either. As the Bible says, "let them work out their own salvation with fear and trembling." This time, this is his and Hillary's problem.

We are in the middle of a war for our nation and planet's best interests. Bill Clinton's battle is no longer our war. This is not the hill I am going to die on anymore. And I don't think that there are many other Democrats who are willing to die on that hill anymore either.

What's truly sad is that this article looks very questionable to me, and yet it was written not by a right-wing nut-case, but by a liberal. Just like "Primary Colors" was written by not a foe of the Clintons, but by one of their admirers, it may warn us all of still more embarrassing episodes to come.

I am truly sorry that this article was even written. If they don't have any way to substantiate the facts, then Vanity Fair should not have published it.

But there it is. Deja vu all over again.

I defended Bill Clinton's oral sex in the White House to my own mother. She told me, "I didn't raise you like that. You know better. Don't justify that behavior to me. It was wrong." My mom was right.

Sorry, Bill. I do "share your pain", but don't call me this time. I'm not there anymore.

[AtomicKitten]

1. Obama never went there but could have.

I think this article provides one of the best arguments against H. Clinton as VP.

[Warren Stupidity]

2. He was keeping his zipper up for Hillary

but he ain't stupid and he knows it is over. I personally do not care at all who Bill has sex with or what his arrangement is with his wife. I am disgusted, but not at all surprised, with the people here who are just obsessed with everyone else's sexuality.

[blm]

3. Yep - selfish Clinton released his bio in June 2004 USURPING our attention to defend his presidency

and his personal failings yet AGAIN, at the exact time we, as a party, should have been getting to know everything needed about our Dem nominee to face the toughest campaign against the most powerful GOP machine in history.

Instead, we had Bill on his 3 week high profile book tour defending Bush repeatedly from the very criticisms of his terrorism and Iraq war strategies that the Dem nominee was leveling at Bush at the time.

Clintons needed Bush in office - Hillary2008 could not be possible without it.

[Why Syzygy]

4. You're right.

Same here. Through this ordeal, I have felt that Monica wasn't the only one who got the cigar.


I feel the article is substantiated enough from the people who are THERE. He's a hound dog. I'm surprised you would have any doubt.

[leftofcool]

5. I can't belive anyone actually read this hit job

Most of it has already been debunked as theere were no real resources

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

14. In order to know it was a hit job, you must have read it.

I can't believe it!

[FredScuttle]

6. Well said

I've always believed that a good number of those superdelegates who withheld their vote for Hillary were the same poor dupes that, a decade ago, Bill Clinton trotted out in front of every camera and on multiple cable news roundtables to (unwittingly) lie for him. Hell, I didn't think he could be that careless, that reckless, that stupid...but he was. And his wife had to, once again, pay the consequences for his supreme hubris and arrogance.

[FrenchieCat]

7. The main point to be taken from your post is that

We've already been there and done that. American politics cannot afford to be about the Clintons' battles anymore, it has got to be about us, the American people.

That is why with the "Urgency of Now" upon us, we must turn the page.......and of course, Yes, We can.

[TahitiNut]

13. When so many of us were busy defending Bill against GOP overkill ...

... we were ALL sold down the river on NAFTA, welfare deform, the Telecomm Act of 98, and a host of other corporate predations.

He was not just a skirt-chaser (with terrible taste), he was a sell-out. :shrug:

I'm inclined to believe that a LOT of the 'good' we experienced in 1993-2001 can be laid at Al Gore's feet ... the "Dot Com Boom" in particular.

[roguevalley]

19. I lost one brother totally over defending them and one other brother

for a long time. We've had a renewal just lately. Ten years of lost time. My brother never got to make up with my mother over an argument here before she passed away. I have no more time, interest or energy to lose more of my life over the antics of a sixty + year old man who can't be nicer to his wife. Jeez,
he can't be nice to his wife.

[Piperay]

29. I lost a good friend

who I didn't want to see anymore because we would argue about Clinton. I defended while she tore him down. I stopped seeing my friend, she died last year. I'll never defend the Clintons again.

[guruoo]

31. I've lost friends over issues of principle too, To them I say....

If you can't live with our simple differences of opinion then
you were never my friend fo begin with.
So don't let the door smack you in the ass on your way out.

[guruoo]

30. All this over Bill Clinton?

Geez, I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
:rofl: :cry: :shrug:

[David Zephyr]

20. Thanks for pointing out that Al Gore's contributions were overshadowed.

:thumbsup:

[Brundle_Fly]

15. YAY!!

[THUNDER HANDS]

8. heh

pimp

[KittyWampus]

9. I care about his pimping himself and his days as POTUS out FAR more than who he is/was

engaged with sexually.

[grantcart]

10. He could call Dee Dee and ask her to get him out of it lol

[elocs]

11. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

Bill Clinton's problem is not having sex outside of his marriage, but it is lying about it and particularly lying about it under oath to the American people. Obama shouldn't want him anywhere near the White House.

[LaurenG]

12. Well I have heard a lot of things about where his home base really is

and I've heard things about Senator Clinton as well. I'll never say what they were because I never saw them take place. The sources were trusted but that still doesn't give me the right to spread stories that are really just hearsay. Besides the fact that at this point it's really none of our business. I wish them both happiness.

[Major Hogwash]

28. It's sort of like those old Bill Brasky sketchs on SNL.

You didn't really believe everything they said about him, but it was entertaining.

[Orsino]

16. Clenis concern. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. Clenis concern...It's no longer a right wing phenomenon...

~

[KoKo]

17. What you say, David......

Quote from your "OP:"


We are in the middle of a war for our nation and planet's best interests. Bill Clinton's battle is no longer our war. This is not the hill I am going to die on anymore. And I don't think that there are many other Democrats who are willing to die on that hill anymore either.

What's truly sad is that this article looks very questionable to me, and yet it was written not by a right-wing nut-case, but by a liberal. Just like "Primary Colors" was written by not a foe of the Clintons, but by one of their admirers, it may warn us all of still more embarrassing episodes to come.

I am truly sorry that this article was even written. If they don't have any way to substantiate the facts, then Vanity Fair should not have published it.

But there it is. Deja vu all over again.

(one day I hope you will understand...we have more in common...that we differe...in spite of what you might at this time, think.)

[David Zephyr]

22. Thanks.

Hop in the unity bubble.

[illberichtomorrow]

21. Media Matters: Vanity Fair finds no "proof" of Clinton affairs -- but spreads rumors anyway

This is what's being said of your "well-written" hit-job.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200806020003?f=h_latest

[dogday]

25. I doubt you will get any retraction on the part of the OP

or any of the other posts... It's a damn shame really....

[guruoo]

23. Bottom line: it's none of our damn business.

[burythehatchet]

24. Maybe he can call Rev Wright for spiritual counse.... oh wait....

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

26. Both are highly overrated mediocrities headed for well deserved obscurity.

Their main accomplishments have been pandering to the right, taking credit for the accomplishments of others, avoiding responsibility for their failures and faults, and making politics an even dirtier word than it already was.

[Major Hogwash]

27. No video?

Just guessing.