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Mon Jun-02-08 07:10 PM
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California voters: What's your opinion of Props. 98 and 99? |
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As usual, the ballot is confusing, with two competing propositions, and whichever one gets more votes becomes law.
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Mon Jun-02-08 07:13 PM
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1. Isn't it possible for both of them to be defeated? |
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I don't think it's automatic that whichever one gets the most votes becomes law. I believe it's more that, if both pass, the one with the larger majority trumps the other one.
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Mon Jun-02-08 07:16 PM
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3. Oh, ok. Which one do you like better? |
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Mon Jun-02-08 07:17 PM
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4. I attend a Drinking Liberally group... |
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they advise no on 98 and yes on 99.
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Mon Jun-02-08 07:15 PM
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2. My understanding is that they can both be defeated. |
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My Dem club has taken an unofficial position (I believe) that 99 is better than 98...
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Mon Jun-02-08 07:27 PM
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Some argue that 98 includes tougher language on eminent domain--which is both good and bad--but it also disallows communities from enacting rent controls, which is entirely bad (unless you are a landlord). Arnie and both senators are against it for reasons including the rent control measure, as well as making it hard to use eminent domain for necessary projects (not just to give to some business to turn into a mall). http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-governor26apr26,1,6327218.story - Arnie against http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS291555+24-Apr-2008+PRN20080424 - Feinstein against http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stephen-elliott/more-on-barbara-boxer-and_b_101783.html - Boxer against 99 is the more reasonable bill.
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Mon Jun-02-08 07:31 PM
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6. No on 98 / Yes on 99 / all three up in your house with disease! |
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Mon Jun-02-08 07:38 PM
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Mon Jun-02-08 07:38 PM
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8. No on 98. Yes on 99. nt |
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Mon Jun-02-08 07:40 PM
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9. No on 98. Yes on 99 only to defeat 98. |
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Your voter's guide has the arguments. I'm voting no on both, because neither addresses the issue of eminent domain abuse with the proper nuance and 98 is just a rent control vacancy decontrol measure wrapped up in an eminent domain coat.
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98 will release rent controls (fine print) and 99 does not go far enough
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Mon Jun-02-08 07:42 PM
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Mon Jun-02-08 10:49 PM
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13. We hate eight and nine is fine... |
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according to the democratic party info.
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Mon Jun-02-08 10:50 PM
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14. We hate eight and nine is fine... |
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according to the democratic party info.
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Mon Jun-02-08 10:52 PM
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15. excuse my duplication....I'm watching the Red Wings in 2nd overtime in game five of the |
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Stanley Cup finals!!!!!!!!GO WINGS!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tue Jun-03-08 12:10 AM
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18. They're both confusing and defective, and they both suck. |
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I'm voting against both tomorrow.
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Tue Jun-03-08 12:43 AM
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19. No on 98, Yes on 99! If both win, and 99 gets more votes, it wipes out 98. n/t |
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:22 AM
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20. Green Party suggests no on 98 and yes on 99 |
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:43 AM
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I voted no on both, I knew about the landlord thing and though 99 might sound ok there are usually unintended consequences to these propositions and so I voted no.
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:32 AM
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22. 99 is actually a pretty good proposition... |
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