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Mon Jun-02-08 08:54 PM
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We are looking at a realignment of the party |
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It is coming, folks.
We are trading our racist mouth-breathers for disaffected Republicans and Independents.
Not people who want to move the party to the right -- people who are waking up and recognizing that the right is wrong and are willing to give lefty liberalism a chance.
I went from right of right to left of left -- and apparently there is a very long line behind me here of late. A long line of people who have realized that they have been lied to -- and are pissed about it. At least I still am.
This is going to be an exciting time.
I for one am looking forward to the maps changing.
Anyone with me?
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:55 PM
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1. Which racist mouth breathers would those be? |
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:57 PM
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6. You apparently haven't met Harriet Christian |
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:02 PM
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7. I read the remarks- she won't be missed |
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But I hardly think there are a huge number of those. Most Hillary supporters will support the Nominee in November. The other choice is just to scary.
Sorry if I got a bit defensive there.
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:16 PM
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10. Not a problem. My apologies if I was making it sound like I was talking about ALL supporters |
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I am specifically referring to the "I'm voting McCain" asshats who care so much about healthcare and the well being of our troops that they will vote for 4 more years of the same old same old.
There are a lot of pissed off Republicans.
My gamble is that we are bringing in more disaffected THINKING people than we are going to lose the Harriet Christians of this nation.
One can only hope.
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:43 PM
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You didn't. I totally took it the wrong way. My nerves are rubbed raw and I am perpetually on the defensive here in GDP these days. I cannot wait for the primaries to be over.
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Mon Jun-02-08 10:06 PM
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30. Hear! Hear! I think we ALL want the primaries over. We have more pressing matters to deal with! |
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It is time--no well past time--that the citizens of this country take their collective heads out of their collective asses and face some very hard realizations.
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:39 AM
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42. Hopefully they are a vocal minority, but there were a lot of people like her at the meeting Saturday |
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It really felt like a hostile environment...my mom and I sat at one of the pubs eating lunch and we were surrounded by Clinton supporters and it felt uncomfortable...it didn't feel like we were members of the same party or even the same country. We tried to talk to a few of them but they were pretty hostile.
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:55 PM
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I want this country to start putting people in front of unbridled greed.
K&R
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:56 PM
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4. We are trading our racist mouth-breathers for disaffected Republicans and Independents. |
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Mon Jun-02-08 08:57 PM
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5. Yes! Let's start by getting rid of DLC scum, especially "Traitor Joe" LIEberman! |
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We already finally dumped Al Wynn!!
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:14 PM
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8. I'm with you but the kicker is that Obama has to win in the fall, otherwise we are back |
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to kowtowing to the DINO's and their not-so-progressive constituencies.
This is a real test.
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:17 PM
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I for one am looking forward to it.
The only thing worse than an ex-smoker is an ex-Republican who feels lied to. Centrist/DINO is not an option.
We have to get them in office, and then keep them focused on the agenda. It doesn't end in November.
:thumbsup:
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:16 PM
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9. I'm With You Yael... All The Way !!! - K & R !!! |
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:bounce::woohoo::bounce:
:yourock:
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:17 PM
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11. Reverse of the Reagan Revolution |
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Almost 30 years of RW nonsense has gotten us in debt and our jobs in India.
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:20 PM
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14. Yeah -- wasn't NAFTA a blast? |
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This is why we have to stay active. We can't let them settle back into the same old same old Washington lobbyist-driven legislation.
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:23 PM
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GOP ran on reform in 1994 and became worse than some 3rd world governments.
We will be watching and ready to boot them in primaries.
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:26 PM
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18. I voted for Perot in '92 |
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He saw it coming. The giant sucking sound. He was wrong on 90% of his issues, but I give him this one.
Neo-cons and neo-libs: Your time in the spotlight is over.
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:21 AM
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36. Tomorrow is forty years since we lost Bobby. |
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That's when the wind really went out of the sails.
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:20 PM
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13. Honestly, I think this is the awakening of all those voters who poll liberal on individual issues... |
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...but wouldn't identify as liberal or democrat in the past. I think there's been a breakthrough, and I find it greatly encouraging.
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:27 PM
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19. Believe it or not, "liberal" isn't as bad a word in ex-Republican circles as you might think. |
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Many of us embrace it.
It goes to that whole "being lied to" thing...
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:29 PM
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20. That'll be a true sea change, if so. |
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In the past, it's been deeply frustrating to see the numbers on individual issues, which Americans overwhelmingly poll as liberal, but when asked to identify as a political type, the numbers for liberal or democrat shrink to much lower numbers. Liberal never should have been made a dirty word--and I hope smart republicans are finally figuring that out.
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:31 PM
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21. I honestly think many are |
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I am not ingrained in those circles any longer, and haven't been for a while, but the disgust is simply overwhelming from those I am still in contact with.
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:21 PM
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15. I am. I was a righty at one time. |
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More of a libertarian, actually. I've always been anti-war and that's why I made the switch.
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:24 PM
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It was the economics that finally kicked me into action. Free markets do not work.
I was with the libertarians when it came to foreign policy.
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:32 PM
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:35 PM
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23. I'm flabberghasted that we're |
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even discussing this..it's been a long 8 years.
But, it's the perfect storm and I want to thank Dean and everybody along the way who's making this possible now.
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:41 PM
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25. Hey! That's my line! Hrmph! |
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:52 PM
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28. Economic populism is the movement of the times |
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It's why we have been picking up seats in the Southeast. People here are remembering FDR, remembering that he did good things for the nation and for the region. I think an Obama presidency with FDR-esque policies will do a world of good towards rooting out persistent racism as well. If struggling rural whites see a black man who helps them out, it could spark a massive change.
The GOP will undergo a realignment as well if McCain loses. My bet is that the Ron Paul people will end up in control... It's kind of what happened with us. We didn't get the Naderites, exactly, but the concept behind the Nader "movement" was what led to the Dean movement. I think the GOP will drop social wedge issues in a few years and embrace the Paulites.
Write it down. Between the economic populist surge in the South and the likely Paulite takeover of the GOP, we could be looking at the South turning blue before the Mountain West.
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Mon Jun-02-08 09:57 PM
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29. I'm willing to suggest this goes beyond our party |
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It feels to me like the entire country is realigning. And, damn, it feels good.
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Mon Jun-02-08 10:57 PM
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31. It is time. Recommended. |
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:49 PM
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32. It's long overdue and feels very good but the work is just beginning |
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Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 11:49 PM by Catherina
Obama's feet need to be held to the fire. And the other politicians too.
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:54 PM
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33. I'm not only with you, I've been saying this all along. |
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A new day is coming, America. :D
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:57 PM
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34. Someone should write an OP |
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welcoming those independents/republicans to DU. I know more and more people have been popping up here and they largely don't get the thanks they deserve for joining the one true big tent party.
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Tue Jun-03-08 12:06 AM
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35. racist mouth breathers? |
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:rofl: I've never heard that before.
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:27 AM
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37. I think he meant mouth-breeders |
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It's a reference to tropical fish that keep their babies in their mouths for protection while they are small. I don't know why the term is derogatory
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Tue Jun-03-08 05:09 PM
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45. Well I think he meant mouth-breechers, |
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which is a reference to people who wear a specially-tailored pair of breeches over their mouth and nose. I'm not sure why that would be derogatory.
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Tue Jun-03-08 05:18 AM
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38. Don't hold your breath that progressivism will stand a chance in hell with that lot |
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Tue Jun-03-08 05:37 AM
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39. Thanks for expressing your thoughts. Hope you're right. errr... correct. n/t |
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Tue Jun-03-08 05:48 AM
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40. I'm right there with ya |
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I think many people have woke up during the reign of King George and his republican party. I remember all the high paying jobs in the Clinton years. Everyone was doing pretty good.
Since the rethugs took over the rich and big business has done well. Of course the republicans have done all they could to oppress the working class and have declared war on the middle class.
Its just what they do. Anyone who works for a paycheck and votes republican might as well put a gun to his head. Because they are committing economic suicide.
GOBAMA!
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Tue Jun-03-08 07:25 AM
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41. Absolutely! Get rid of the Bitter White Woman contingent and you'll be golden. |
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Tue Jun-03-08 05:05 PM
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I'm proud to call myself liberal and disgusted with those who think I should be embarrassed by that label. I want my party and my country back.
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Tue Jun-03-08 05:06 PM
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44. For a hell of a close primary |
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you sound like Bush claiming a mandate in 2000 and 2004.
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:48 PM
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54. Umm, If Hillary and Obama are the same politically, which you say further down the thread, |
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then shouldn't he be reaching out to the Left of the Party instead of the Right? If they're both DLC, then there's no need to reach out to Clinton voters specifically. Rational ones will realize that they have the same policies and beliefs and come to support Obama anyway, and irrational ones probably can't be reached anyway.
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Tue Jun-03-08 05:10 PM
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Tell the howling Harriet Christians not to let the door hit them in the ass on the way out.
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Tue Jun-03-08 05:14 PM
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47. A slightly more liberal moderate beat slightly more conservative moderate to face a moderate rwer! |
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Its May Day all over again! :eyes:
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Tue Jun-03-08 05:20 PM
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49. pretty accurate analysis |
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according to my slightly scotch dulled senses.
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Tue Jun-03-08 05:41 PM
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A lot of people are in for a crushing disappointment.
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Tue Jun-03-08 05:51 PM
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53. actually, I think you've got it backwards |
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once the left wing of the party figures it out you will hear a wailing and gnashing of teeth...
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Tue Jun-03-08 05:17 PM
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I wholeheartedly agree wtih you.
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Tue Jun-03-08 05:21 PM
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Y'all remember he started this train early in the 2004 campaign. All the other Democrats were being cautious and trying to kowtow to the right wing. Then Dean and the grassroots and the net got the progressive idea back into gear. And even though Dean screamed, Kerry picked up his platform, with Dean as an enthusiastic surrogate all the way. Kerry lost, but Dean pushed Democrats to grow a little spine and challenged enough to win in '06. And now, finally, progressive Democrats are standing proud, winning primaries and caucuses in states they had no business thinking about, running a good race and challenging the rest of the party to raise its game, Democrats are registering new voters like mad, and now will be fighting for 50 states in November.
Props to Gov. Dean.
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Tue Jun-03-08 05:48 PM
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52. Che Guevara - Viva La Revolucion! |
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