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Mon Jun-02-08 11:00 PM
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Poll question: VP--does Obama need to reach out to Latinos, or to women? |
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Let's think state by state, which is how the GE is going to be won if it is: does Obama need to shore up his Latino base by choosing Richardson, or Hillary voters by choosing a woman?
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:01 PM
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1. I don't think he thinks like that. Which is why so many of us are big fans. n/t |
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:02 PM
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3. Reaches out to competence. |
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:02 PM
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4. He didn't win the nomination by ignoring strategy. |
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And the veep choice is his next big strategic move.
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:03 PM
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5. Yes, but "Richardson or 'A Woman'" is checkers when Obama plays chess. n/t |
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:04 PM
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8. Sure but I'm just looking at one part of the thinking. |
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There's also north-south and other considerations but at the moment this seems to be a big concern, if not the biggest.
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:03 PM
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:01 PM
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What if he picks a VP candidate based on whether they would make a good president?
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:03 PM
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6. Well, let's assume they all would, |
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I mean, he's not going to put Bozo on his short list is he?
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:36 PM
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It just seems like people get so caught-up in who might help in the election, they forget that the VP might well become President. That really needs to be the first consideration.
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:04 PM
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9. What if Richardson gets a sex change? |
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:06 PM
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10. I don't think his wife would go for it. |
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On the other hand I'm not even sure he's married.
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:06 PM
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12. Then we've hit the...bi-fecta! |
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:06 PM
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without regard to sex or race.
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:07 PM
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She's got all the required characteristics.
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:09 PM
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14. You know you might be onto something. |
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She's popular everywhere!
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:12 PM
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15. There are some popular Latino women pols in the West. |
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Gloria Molina and Loretta Sanchez for example... but they're pretty obscure and would probably not mean much on the East coast.
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:18 PM
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18. I prefer Salma Hayek. |
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:16 PM
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16. Richardson brings experience. |
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Not just the Latino vote.
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:19 PM
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19. He does have that going for him. |
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Two-term governor, White House experience, a congressional career before that, and he's relatively young, which means he'll still be electable in eight years.
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:17 PM
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17. He should nominate a black, Spanish-speaking lesbian with strong roots in Ohio, Florida, Missouri, |
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and Iowa, who is strong on defense. But one who won't offend hard working white people.
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:20 PM
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20. We'll call her "Voltron." |
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:23 PM
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she can fake whatever's missing.
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Mon Jun-02-08 11:31 PM
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22. Well, here's my thinking: |
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He really needs to nail down Latino voters in the south and west. I don't think he'll lose them but they can help him sweep the house in November if they get on board. Having Hillary campaign for him might help marginally but I really don't think she would, and putting her on the ticket would be suicide.
Women Dems on the other hand I am pretty sure will vote for Obama whether there's a woman on the ticket or not, and there will be lots of women in other races.
So unless Richardson has major bimbo problems, I think it's pretty clear he'll be at the top of the list.
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:37 PM
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24. Is a VP choice enough to convince them? n/t |
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:41 PM
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25. VP is a strategic choice, not tactical |
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Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 01:41 PM by Hola
He needs to pick someone who can balance out the ticket, not just pander to one demographic.
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Tue Jun-03-08 01:51 PM
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26. I kind of think of strategy and tactics as being the same. |
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Counting votes in other words, as opposed to policy positions or grand plans.
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