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Politics_Guy25 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:15 PM
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Bill Clinton loses it in latest attack against Obama
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/bill-clinton-purdhum-a-sl_b_104771.html

It's part of the national media's attempt to nail Hillary for Obama. It's the most biased press coverage in history. It's another way of helping Obama. They had all these people standing up in this church cheering, calling Hillary a white racist, and he didn't do anything about it. The first day he said 'Ah, ah, ah well.' Because that's what they do-- he gets other people to slime her. So then they saw the movie they thought this is a great ad for John McCain-- maybe I better quit the church. It's all politics. It's all about the bias of the media for Obama. Don't think anything about it."

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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:16 PM
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1. He's an anchor for Hillary.
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 11:17 PM by Starbucks Anarchist
And he'd be one for Obama, too, if he picks Hillary as VP.

EDIT: Before anyone brings up how great his administration was, I'm not knocking that. It's just that Bill seems way too quick to anger and outbursts lately.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:36 PM
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13. Pump Head. - n/t
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:51 PM
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19. Finally!!!!
I've been saying that for weeks!!!

:toast:
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:47 PM
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29. Anchors are good.
Don't go out to sea without one.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:17 PM
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2. I wonder how Bill looks in an apron.


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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:20 PM
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3. Motor mouth Bill
he just can't control himself. x(
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:21 PM
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4. One Caveat--Jay Carson, the Clinton spokesman, sent in a statement saying that Bill
regretted the language he used. So small sign of progress.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:22 PM
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5. Still the characteristic lack of respect, in this case, for People's ability to make up their own
minds about her.

Tell me who does not revile the Media? No one but the Faux New HC supporters who were never our voters in the first place. EVERYONE else bitches about Media bias ALL OF THE TIME.

This is just more evidence that Bill just has NO idea who we are.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:23 PM
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6. Bill Clinton's transformation is complete: Big Dawg >>> Whiny Pup
Good God, Bubba. A little dignity, please.

This is so unbecoming.

I'd feel sorry for him if he hadn't once had the whole world in his hands and flushed it down the toilet in less than six months.

What an embarrassment.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:32 PM
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11. This is so sad because Bill is the one who
has disrespted his own wife for all these years.

She stood up for him and looked the other way for years.

Her anger and his anger has totally consumed them IMO.
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 12:55 AM
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24. Great point.
Really. I can't add more to that.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:03 PM
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34. yup, it really is sad
His inability to control his appetites made him ineligible to campaign for Gore (in Gore's eyes, anyway); Gore would almost certainly have won if Bill had campaigned beside him, but Bush was able to campaign on a "return to dignity" platform :eyes: because of Monica.

And now he's shooting off his mouth like this again. I feel awful for her, after all she's been through in that relationship... it must have been so painful to have his betrayal made so worldwide-public, and now he's hurting her yet again by making her campaign look undignified. I can't help wondering what her campaign would have been like if it weren't for him and the constant damage control they had to do.

Of course, the likelihood this time is that his personality issues are due to the heart surgery, so he probably can't be held wholly liable for his outbursts this time around. Still. She deserves his help, not this mess.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:24 PM
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7. ! n/t
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:26 PM
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8. How is that losing it? Obama waited until after he got his delegates in MI before he
tossed his church overboard.
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Politics_Guy25 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:30 PM
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10. The way he used republican talking points against the democratic presumptive nominee-n/t
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:59 PM
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33. As Opposed to the Way Obama's Team and Supporters Used RW Talking Points For Six Freaking Months?
Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 01:59 PM by Crisco
I'd say Bubba did a marvelous job of holding his piece.

"That's all right-- he's still a scumbag," Clinton said. " Let me tell ya-- he's one of the guys -- he's one of the guys that propagated all those lies about Whitewater to Kenneth Starr. He's just a dishonest guy-- can't help it."
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:29 PM
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9. I hope Bill is right and the media DOES favor Obama... whatta change that would be
from 2000 and 2004
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:32 PM
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12. How does Obama make Bill move his mouth like that??
Is there a string up Bill's ass that someone from the Obama campaign pulls??

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jsmirman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:36 PM
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14. "It's all politics." How fucking dare he after all the shit they've pulled
they've taken "it's all politics" to a whole new level and played upon our capacity to forgive to a point where it's only our humanity and tolerance that have kept us from throwing the contents of his office out on the street.

Fuck him and fuck his bullshit. I am so sick of them it's ridiculous.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:38 PM
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15. Hey Bubba, STFU
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 11:39 PM by 48percenter
I can't wait until tomorrow, when you become irrelevant again. I hope Obama says no thank you to your toxic radioactive endorsement.

Better spend your energy lining up some big fat cats, get those speeches rolling in -- Hillary needs about 20M from what I hear.

Edit: freudian slip :rofl:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:39 PM
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16. I repeat: Animal tranquilizer, blow dart, and a net.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 12:56 AM
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25. DUzy.
- as
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:42 PM
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17. When did this happen?
Maybe it said, but I don't remember seeing it. I don't want to say anything until I know the date although my thoughts won't change on it.

Okay, went back and checked the article is today, but still don't know when he said it. Makes no difference. Someone says something negative about him and it all leads back to Obama. A guest speaker at the church that Obama belongs to says something bad about Hillary and it is Obama's fault. Hillary and he says things that are unacceptable and it is the people who hear them and are upject by its fault. Nothing is ever their fault. She is really the winner, she did not lose. He is still the "first black president" even though they have become the most divisive figures in the USA since bush lost the power to be so. If we don't believe what they say it is our fault for not doing so. Tomorrow I will be kinder if she concedes gracefully. If she comes out and says this has been stolen from her and "I will give up for the sake of the party", I will never forgive, forget or be kind to her again. Tha.t.t.t.t's all folks. (sighing deeply)
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Growler Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:49 PM
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18. Heart surgery and anger
Sorry, I don't have any links for this, but a friend told me today that a fairly common after-effect of heart surgery is prolonged bouts of anger. Could this be the issue with Bill these days?

If I remember correctly, Bill would often have bouts of anger... but he got over it pretty quickly and was smooth and charming again. The problem is now that he's simply not getting over it.

Could it be partly caused by the heart surgery he had in 2004??

Just curious....
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:56 PM
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21. here ya go...
"Brain damage during bypass surgery is so common that hospital personnel refer to it as “pump head.” The primary cause is emboli produced during surgery from clamping the aorta and from the “heart-lung machine.” This machine pumps blood to keep the patient alive while the heart is stopped during the operation. Unfortunately, this pump also introduces toxic gases, fat globules, and bits of plastic debris into the bloodstream of the patient under anesthesia. Once they are in the bloodstream, these particles migrate to the brain where they can clog capillaries and prevent adequate amounts of blood and oxygen from flowing to the brain. Essentially, all patients experience brain emboli during surgery and for many the damage is permanent.

In 2001, an article in the New England Journal of Medicine reported that 5-years after bypass surgery 42% of patients showed decline in mental function of approximately 20 percent or more.2 A study published this year (2008) in the Annals of Thoracic Surgery using MRI testing just after bypass surgery found brain damage in 51% of patients.3 Three years after their time on the bypass pump, significant permanent reduction in mental capacity was identified in 31% of patients. I am not talking major stroke here; but these patients can't remember names or numbers as they once did, experience sleep disturbances (including nightmares), suffer mood swings, and lose intellectual acuity. Approximately 30 percent of people suffer persistent depression and some even contemplate suicide.

Our former president needs our understanding and support. A simple explanation by his doctors of the cause of his recent aberrant behaviors should bring peace of mind to Hillary and her campaign staff. If Mr. Clinton better understood his current limitations, he and his staff could take precautionary steps to avoid embarrassments. A long-overdue explanation would help his adoring public more easily accept his mistakes and readily forgive him. It is not your fault, Mr. Clinton."


http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2008other/080412clinton.htm
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Growler Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 12:05 AM
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23. Thanks!
:thumbsup:
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:54 PM
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20. Yeah well, she didn't do much denouncing either Bill
And believe me, Obama had it far worse.
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Tonimontana Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:57 PM
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22. I don't see how Bill "lost it", but it's obligatory to say his face got red and he "lost it"
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 11:59 PM by Tonimontana
It just can't be left out.
When the characters of the novel which is the press corps have been given their roles, nothing in the world will change them.
Al Gore was a "liar" and he was called a liar even when he told the truth. Kerry was a flip-flopper even when he didn't flip flop.
McCain is a maverick no matter his flip flops.

Etc.
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Duke Newcombe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:02 AM
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26. Damn...it's like seeing your favorite grandfather...
...being taken away for a long dinner date with that new couple down the street..."the Alzheimer's". I don't even listen to him anymore because of this--both to avoid my blood pressure going up, and to avoid the sadness of it all.

Duke

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texas_indy Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:03 AM
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27. But gosh gee, Obama didn't know it bothered HRC......"as far as he knew"........nt
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:46 PM
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28. Forgive me for not understanding what was so WILDLY wrong about what Bill said
I think it is what he honestly thought and felt.

My problem with the outrage is that it is concerned about what he should say as opposed to how he feels. He is pissed off that most AAs have distanced themselves from most of what happened and is happening at Team Clinton.

I know in my gut (no external info) that those CBC members and HRCs staff have felt some serious anger from the family and their friends about what Team Clinton has put forward as a campaign.

Why shouldn't Bill get to say IT'S UNFAIR!?


As an AA person, I think the anger is geniune and I do think the hurt is serious betwist and between.


He is blaming Obama and saying he is doing dirty things and hiding his hand...I would argue HRC has been doing what Bill is blaming Obama for...but doesn't it in and of itself deserve scrutiny if it is possible.


In the same way, I don't think these race baiting tactics of HRC have been fairly critiqued and scrutinized. I don't think these allegations (especially since Ferraro has gone nuclear about these perceived slights) should be dismissed out of hand.


Look if we are going to make race baiting and white resentments a thing of the past, don't we at least need to examine the root of the allegations and clear the air on this stuff. How many of these Harriet women are running around getting more and more angry?
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:50 PM
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30. obama is just gonna have to start killing people
anybody that he's ever met or said hi to, that says anything bad about anyone named clinton?

obama should just strangle them on national tv

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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:52 PM
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31. And this guy is suppose to be the model for unity? LOL!
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:55 PM
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32. My betting money says they will be divorced by Obama's inauguration
It might take longer, but it is clear to me that they will not be married for very much longer.

And Bill, go fuck yourself.

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busymom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:07 PM
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35. I think he's right though....
Imagine if one of the pastor's at Clinton's church was smearing Obama as a black reverse-racist or worse. The expectation would absolutely be there that HRC come out and say something/distance herself from the church.

People are crying out for her to distance herself from/renounce some crazy protestor from this past week.

Come on....
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