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ballsalicious Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 12:51 AM
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Warning to 'white, female voters over the age of 40', John McCain has a plan to Get your vote....
an alleged leaked memo from the McCain Camp:

http://file.sunshinepress.org:54445/mccain-schmidt-clinton-astroturfing-2008.pdf

http://secure.wikileaks.org/wiki/Divide_and_conquer:_McCain%27s_plan_to_wrest_Clintonion_women_from_Obama%3F

MEMORANDUM

To: *******
From: S. Schmidt
Date: May 15, 2008
Subject: Clinton Strategy

According to both internal polling and exit polls by independent news
organizations, the Democratic Party is becoming increasingly polarized along
certain segments of its base. The recent result in West Virginia, while generally
unsurprising and definitely unlikely to cause any real shift in the race,
highlights the growing bitterness between certain supporters of Clinton and
the Obama camp in general. This unique situation has created an opening that
could help depress the turnout of key Democratic demographics in November.
The specific group we are targeting is a cross-section of white, female voters
over the age of 40. Internal polling reveals that this group is the most likely to
support John McCain after Obama wins the nomination. However, we expect
Obama’s numbers to improve following Clinton’s drop. Our job is to make sure
that number stays as low as possible.

Our limited financial resources and the media’s attention on the Democratic
race, however, prevent us from reaching this group. Our aim is to point out
specific issues that we believe resonate well:

1. Sen. Obama’s connection to Rev. Wright
2. His inexperience
3. His links to the corrupt Chicago political machine

However, we cannot fully achieve this goal without a greater commitment on
the part of McCain’s fundraisers and our various media partners. In lieu of
that, we have developed a number of inexpensive ways to reach this audience.
We have already worked to reinforce the Clinton campaign’s narrative about
the unfair treatment that some networks, specifically MSNBC, have given her
camp. We are also planning to unroll a new campaign to highlight Obama’s
experience deficit.

Simultaneously, our team has been testing new lines of attack through
independent pro-Clinton communities on the Internet. Our hope is that our
message here will spread by word-of-mouth. Our local community organizing
has also been successful. We have organized dozens of “meet-ups” across the
country for Clinton supporters, and we have used that time to stress the
importance of punishing the DNC for choosing the undemocratically selected
far-left Obama. At the moment, this is nothing more than a headache for the
Obama campaign. With a greater commitment on your part, I hope to see it
metastasize into something much more.

Let me know if you need more detail.
-S
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 12:53 AM
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1. If women vote for mccain, they deserve exactly what they will get
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 12:55 AM
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3. They'll be voting for John NeoCon AntiChoice warmonger McCunt
how drole!
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:04 AM
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13. And striking a blow for feminism!
By voting for a wrinkly, anti-choice, warmongering old man. That'll show those sexist Obama supporters!

- as
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:10 AM
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15. The positive news is during the rules committee Saturday, it was the Clinton
supporters on the rules committee who did the right thing

I hope that rational continues


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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 12:54 AM
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2. Yuck. nt
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 12:55 AM
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4. Obama and Dean left their asses hanging out with the treatment of women this primary
McCain is just taking advantage of their sexism and their stupidity.

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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 12:59 AM
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6. Obama has only said great things about women and Hillary
Every time I hear him, he always compliments Hillary even though she doesn't do the same for him most of the time. He ALWAYS acts like a gentleman. Always.

Why do you just make shit up?
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:01 AM
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9. He ALWAYS acts like a gentleman. Always.
His surrogates, friends and supporters, not so much.

He's real good at staying above the fray. But his supporters make sure there's plenty of fray to stay above.
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:03 AM
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12. that may be true, but that was not what was implied
by the other poster. she (?) mentioned Obama specifically.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:00 AM
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8. Care to give 3 specific examples?
:eyes:
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:09 AM
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14. How about 1 big one
Dean never once condemned the media for their blatent sexism and now he is having to go around to the talk shows and rag on them for doing so. He should have come out 5 months ago and said something. So should Obama. Dean thought women would just walk lock step and now he is finding out different.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:18 AM
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:20 AM
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20. You obviously don't get it so I am not going to waste
keystrokes explaining it to you. Open your eyes and see what Dean has been doing
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:20 AM
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:36 AM
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28. Party unity?
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papapi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:47 AM
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29. I haven't read anything in your many posts that suggests you have party unity as a goal.....
everything you post is slyly shadowed to cause division and dissension.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 06:39 AM
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38. Alert on McCain; it came out of his mouth, not this poster's. nt
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:19 AM
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19. What blatant sexism are you referring to? /nt
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:20 AM
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21. From the media
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:21 AM
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22. Please give me an example, so I can either debate you or agree with you /nt
Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 01:22 AM by still_one
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:23 AM
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23. Well let's start with this one
Tweety calling Hillary "babe." Try reading "media matters" for more examples. You might also research the NYT for articles they did on this.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:32 AM
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25. OK, now you have refreshed my memory. A better example would have been when they referred
to Hillary's daughter as "pimping" for her.

Tweety's comment is definitely sexist, but I don't give him much credence anyway

Glen Beck would have also been a good example, of course, not only has he used sexism, but racism also

Buchanan, uses sexism, racism, and anti-Jewish verbage

I other words I don't disagree with you point. I would like to add, what we call the guardians of the fourth estate have also been, racist too. That does not dimish your point, but only amplifies that the MSM is not there to inform, but to flame people

To be honest, since 2000 I don't watch the MSM. Most of my TV news I obtain from Bloomberg, or reading



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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 06:27 AM
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36. note.. neither Glenn Beck or Pat Buchanan can be used as examples
of "MSM".. They are both radical righties..
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:22 AM
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45. tweety is also a righty and a fraud /nt
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 06:35 AM
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37. And you are taking your anger out on Senator Obama??????
oooooookkkkkkaaaaaayyyyyy
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:31 AM
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24. Howard Dean calls out the media whores every opportunity he gets
Yesterday, he cut Snuffleupagus off in the middle of some dumb question with "George I know it's your job to create conflict but....". And a similar reaction when Chris "not fit to shine his old man's shoes" Wallace tried to manipulate his words on FAUX.

Now contrast that with his predecessor Terry McUseless, who kisses as much corporate ass as he possibly can when there's a camera in front of his face.

Maybe you should talk to him about "sexism"?
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jsmirman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:03 AM
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11. You are simply amazing. The OP discusses how you and yours are being USED BY MCCAIN
and you respond with this crap.

If those sources have credibility YOU ARE BEING USED AS A PATSY.

Instead of taking a moment's pause for a refreshing burst of sudden sanity amidst the stagnant air of your diseased jihad, you just turn this into a partisan talking point.

Your post translates into "it is Obama and Dean's fault that it is possible for the Republicans to use me like the block headed puppet that I am."

I can't believe you're actually a Democrat. Repulsive and pitiful.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:19 AM
Response to Reply #11
18. Maybe you should read about what Dean is up to
then you would know how pitiful your comments are.
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jsmirman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 06:07 AM
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34. More BS. Maybe you should spell out your intimations so I can rip them apart
instead of posting your empty drivel.

Come on, let's see what you've got. All you have is vague bull crap.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:18 AM
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17. and pray tell how did Obama and Dean treat women so badly
please give me something specific

Was it because they forced Senator Clinton to vote for the IWR, when over 20 Democratic Senators voted against it?

Was it because they forced Senator Clinton to vote for the Kyle/Lieberman ammendment?

Was it because they forced Senator Clinton to vote against a bill introduced by Senator Feinstein, which called for a ban of cluster bombs in civillian areas

I could continue, but the facts are that Senator Clinton was her own worst enemy. She had everything going for her. The money, the established political connections, and she blew it. Just the fact that she blew millions on paying people like Penn, for what? If the Senator can't even manage her own campaign, how can she manage a country

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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:17 AM
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32. sounds like the same old "not supporting Hillary is sexist"
http://www.sandmonkey.org/2008/01/29/if-you-endorse-obama-you-are-a-sexist/

Jan. 29, 2008 - Marcia Pappas of NOW accuses Ted Kennedy, Howard Dean, Jim Dean, Alternet, Kucinich, etc. of sexism! Their crime against all women - not endorsing/supporting Hillary.

Why isn't Pappas a sexist? Apparently she was not saying anything about the sexism in the media. She was too busy attacking the sexism of Howard Dean and Ted Kennedy and any other male who wasn't supporting the Tsarina.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 12:58 AM
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5. This is interesting

"...our team has been testing new lines of attack through
independent pro-Clinton communities on the Internet"
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:00 AM
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7. So this document ADMITS that the McLoon camp is behind the Hillbot Hate sites??
There's gotta be a few Hillbots around here feeling really dumb right about now.......
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:03 AM
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10. If they didn't get it yet...
...you know the drill.

Rage is driving that car now, and they loves them some rage.

- as
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:47 AM
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26. Stupid is as stupid does.
For some (about 5-6?), "dumb" would be the impossible dream.
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RandiFan1290 Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:43 AM
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33. H44 is filled with groomers.
Gently massaging the message that Hillary supporters need to vote for McCain in order to punish Obama and Dean. They are stressing that a write in vote for Hillary could be counted as a vote for Obama if the DNC uses their "dirty tricks" again.




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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:50 AM
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30. Let's compare Sen. Obama's voting record to Sen. McCain's voting record
I have heard some people say that since Sen. McCain is a liberal or moderate Republican - he really wouldn't be that bad. After all he is against torture, he supported campaign finance reform and he accepts the scientific consensus about global warming.

But let's take a look and compare how different their voting records actually are.

Let's see if Sen. McCain is REALLY such a moderate or liberal Republican or a maverick:

All figures are interest group ratings from 2007, except when those figures were not available, in such cases I will post the ratings from 2006 or 2005-2006:

The link for Sen. McCain's ratings on Project Vote Smart:

http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=53270&type=category&category=45&go.x=10&go.y=12

The link for Sen. Obama's ratings on Project Vote Smart:

http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=9490

Abortion Issues


In 2007 NARAL Pro-Choice America gave Senator Obama a grade of 100.

In 2007 NARAL Pro-Choice America gave Senator McCain a grade of 0.

Animal Welfare Issues



Senator Obama supported the interests of the The Humane Society of the United States 75 percent in 2007.

Senator McCain supported the interests of the The Humane Society of the United States 25 percent in 2007.
_________________________________

Civil Rights and Human Rights Issues


2007 American Civil Liberties Union gave Senator Obama a grade of 80.

2007 American Civil Liberties Union gave Senator McCain a grade of 50.
______________________________________________________________

2007 Senator Obama supported the interests of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights 85 percent in 2007

2007 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights 15 percent in 2007.
________________________________________________________________________

2006 Senator Obama supported the interests of the Americans United for the Separation of Church and State 100 percent in 2006.

2006 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Americans United for the Separation of Church and State 33 percent in 2006.
________________________________________________________________________

2005-2006 Senator Obama supported the interests of the American Civil Liberties Union 83 percent in 2005-2006.

2005-2006 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Civil Liberties Union 33 percent in 2005-2006.
________________________________________________________________________

2005-2006 Senator Obama supported the interests of the Human Rights Campaign 89 percent in 2005-2006

2005-2005 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Human Rights Campaign 33 percent in
________________________________________________________________________

Conservative Issues


Senator Obama supported the interests of the American Conservative Union 7 percent in 2007.

Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Conservative Union 80 percent in 2007.
_______________________________________________________________________

Education Issues


2007 National Education Association gave Senator Obama a grade of A.

2997 National Education Association gave Senator McCain a grade of F.
___________________________________________________________


Senator Obama supported the interests of the Teachers of English to Speakers of Other Languages (TESOL) 100 percent in 2007

Senator McCain supported the interests of the Teachers of English to Speakers of Other Languages (TESOL) 0 percent in 2007.
________________________________________________________________________

Energy Issues


2005-2006 Senator Obama supported the interests of the Campaign for America's Future 100 percent in 2005-2006 on energy legislation.

2005-2006 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Campaign for America's
Future 17 percent in 2005-2006 on energy legislation.
____________________________________________________________

Environmental Issues


2007 Based on a point system, with points assigned for actions in support of or in opposition to League of Conservation Voters's position, Senator Obama received a rating of 67.

2007 Based on a point system, with points assigned for actions in support of or in opposition to League of Conservation Voters's position, Senator McCain received a rating of 0.
______________________________________________________________

Family and Children Issues


2007 Based on a point system, with points assigned for actions in support of or in opposition to Children's Defense Fund's position, Senator Obama received a rating of 60.

2007 Based on a point system, with points assigned for actions in support of or in opposition to Children's Defense Fund's position, Senator McCain received a rating of 10.
________________________________________________________
(The Family Research Council is an extremely right-wing organization found and lead by Dr. Richard Dobson)

2007 In 2007 Family Research Council gave Senator Obama a grade of 0.

In 2007 Family Research Council gave Senator McCain a grade of 42.
_______________________________________________________________

Foreign Aid and Policy Issues


Senator Obama supported the interests of the Council for a Livable World 81 percent in 2007

Senator McCain supported the interests of the Council for a Livable World 0 percent in 2007.
____________________________________________________________________

Senator Obama supported the interests of the Peace Action 67 percent in 2006

Senator McCain supported the interests of the Peace Action 50 percent in 2006
________________________________________________________________


Senator Obama supported the interests of the Nuclear Age Peace Foundation 83 percent in 2005-2006.

Senator McCain supported the interests of the Nuclear Age Peace Foundation 25 percent in 2005-2006
______________________________________________________________________.

Health Issues


Senator Obama supported the interests of the American Academy of Family Physicians 100 percent in 2007.

Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Academy of Family Physicians 0 percent in 2007
________________________________________________________________________


Senator Obama supported the interests of the American Academy of Emergency Medicine 100 percent in 2005-2006

Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Academy of Emergency Medicine 0 percent in 2005-2006.
__________________________________________________________________


Senator Obama supported the interests of the American Nurses Association 100 percent in 2005-2006.

Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Nurses Association 20 percent in 2005-2006.
_____________________________________________________________________

Labor


Senator Obama supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 100 percent in 2007.

Senator McCain supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 0 percent in 2007.
______________________________________________________________________

Senator Obama supported the interests of the Service Employees International Union 75 percent in 2007.

Senator McCain supported the interests of the Service Employees International Union 8 percent in 2007.
________________________________________________________________________

Liberal


Senator Obama supported the interests of the Americans for Democratic Action 75 percent in 2007

Senator McCain supported the interests of the Americans for Democratic Action 10 percent in 2007.
_________________________________________________________________

Senator Obama supported the interests of the National Journal - Composite Liberal Score 95.5 percent in 2007.

Senator McCain supported the interests of the National Journal - Liberal on Social Policy 40 percent in 2007

Veterans Issues


2006 Senator Obama supported the interests of the Disabled American Veterans 80 percent in 2006.

2006 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Disabled American Veterans 20 percent in 2006.
________________________________________________________________

2006 In 2006 Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America gave Senator Obama a grade of B+.

2006 In 2006 Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America gave Senator McCain a grade of D.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:51 AM
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31. Nah, most of the white women over 40 I know aren't anywhere near that dumb.
This is only gonna work with a few deranged crazies.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 06:17 AM
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35. McLame will have to pry MY vote from my cold dead hands.
This is all they got against Obama? Experience? Jeremiah Wright? "Chicago politics"? How sad.

Oh well, it sure is interesting to see how they intend to make the sausage...even if it's pathetic sausage.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:48 AM
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39. Who loves you baby? Hanity, Rush, McCain, Fox news, the Republican party.
Just keep this divisive shit up!!!
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:51 AM
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40. Its up to Obama
If he wants to get these women voters to support him, he needs to do some outreach and begin talking seriously about issues important to women. Most women aren't fooled by empty Hope and change rhetoric.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:55 AM
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41. First he has to get past my wanting to scratch his eyes out.
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CatnHat Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:04 AM
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42. Look at your own
candidate. If the guy can't close the deal with McCain, too bad.

It's all on Obama--he is the one to seal the deal--not Clinton supporters. The guy's remarks to working class Americans is unacceptable.

People will make up their own minds, without the pandering from Obama and his camp or articles about how McCain intends to get women to vote for him.

Here's a clue--many Clinton supporters will actually write her in--or just sit home. That's a fact. My own daughter, who was undecided, will also be writing in for Hillary Clinton. Then we will all go independent; after the DNC debacle.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:08 AM
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43. Of course he does.
This has been clear ever since the MSM began pandering to Obama supporters.

McCain is eye Hillary's Women and her Latino constituants.

And he'll get alot of 'em too.
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BobbyVan Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:09 AM
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44. FWIW, the McCain camp is calling the memo a fake.
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