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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:02 AM
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$5.25... that is the Federal Minimum Wage
Ok it will go up since the Dems did something about it

But gas is now running around 4.25\gallon for regular.

And no, not everybody has access to public transportation (which has been hit by increased fees as well)

I know that many think that Americans will remain docile forever

But the prices of gas (and consequently other basic necessities such as oh FOOD) will drive people to at the very least vote for change, and that my friends is my hope... that it stays at voting and demanding change in a peaceful manner

We've seen food riots in other places. Europe is now seeing gas protests... you think Americans will remain docile and nice and quiet forever?

The French Kings learned, to their chagrin, that there is a limit on how far you can push people. So did the Romanovs... and of course King George... thought I'd mention that one too.

Civiil Wars and Revolutions are not sudden events though, so you need to start paying attention to the signs of discontent

For example, on May First we had an honest to goodness truckers protest... I know... the media did its duty (for the corporations) and did not report it. But we had one. I guess, just like the many marches we have seen, it didn't happen since CNN didn't cover it. That is their modus operandi btw.

That is only the beginning. People are talking to each other and since our guv'ment has not bothered to 'splain the facts of life to Joe and Jane Six Pack 'bout peak oil, well Joe and Jane only know their money is getting squeezed and it does not go as far as it used to. Hell, they may even have noticed that by the end of the moth they are short on food and gas. Oh and little money for the movies if you get my drift

Of course, sooner, or later we will have to have this national conversation on peak oil, and the later it happens the more angry they will be. Of course, we may get that talk well after joe and jane are so pissed that they reach for their torches and pitchforks, and if that happens, I don't want to make any bets on how that will end. But keep your ears close to the ground... because we may have something happen here, that will take most Americans, in particular those in charge, by surprise.

Now alert DU'ers who have joined the Cassandra's club, well we have been predicting at the very least a double digit Recession (which is here not that your lovely press will cover it, you need to read that cursed furein press, such as the Telegraph), but we have also been warning of a Depression... Again, them darn foreigners are now talking around the edges about that... and the Telegraph was one of them yesterday. So when that happens, again Joe and Jane will be slightly pissed and will demand some 'splaining from their guv'ment, at the very least.

Ah yes, fun days are ahead of us... and this will be what the next president inherits... and that does not even include a possible attack on Iran or other likely scenarios with this wrecking crew.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:04 AM
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1. THere is a new show coming out about a couple trying to live off the min wage
I think it starts in a few weeks, cant remember the name though
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:06 AM
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2. That should be fun, NOT
it is surreal that we even make shows out of this
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:08 AM
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3. If it helps to get the message out then I am all for it
I am very blessed because my job pays millage, which is a G-D send since I drive over 90 miles per day
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:11 AM
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4. The problem is that our wonderful TEEVEE does not
I repeat this, does not... portray poor people very well

It is part of the indoctrination program

Ah that media analysis class I took over thirty years ago still haunts me. I cannot watch TEEVEE without going BLEECH

In fact, we watch very little Teeveee in this house
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:09 AM
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5. We are different from Europeans

our leaders can bully and beat the crap out of us Americans but we
hardly dare to raise our voices back at them.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:37 AM
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9. We will... there is less of a tradition, but we will
and by the way OUR leaders are banking on us not raising our voices and meekly going along to get along.

US History is full of examples of worker rage. Get ready for one of those periods, in the flesh
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WA98070 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:25 AM
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When will a gallon of gas pass the minimum wage?
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WA98070 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:25 AM
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6. When will a gallon of gas pass the minimum wage?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:38 AM
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10. Current trends, by the end of the summer
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:49 AM
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7. I agree the federal min wage should be higher, currently it is $5.85
not $5.25 as the OP stated. But honestly people would have a better shot at making a difference by talking to their state legislators. The Oregon Min Wage is $7.95 the fourth highest in the nation.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S.A._minimum_wages
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:40 AM
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11. So the first kick took place,
thanks.

It was to take place over two years so you know

And this is not about the minimum wage but about how much it COSTS you to drive and the percentage this takes out of your budget.

You know for things like eating

HUman psychology 101, when people have little or nothing to loose they reach for the tar and feathers in the best of cases

Look up Maslow
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:27 AM
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8. I actually stopped by a Walmart last week and was speaking with
one of the associates in the garden department. She told me that she drives in from 40 miles away to work. I know her hometown and there is a really limited job market there. She told me so much of her income was going to pay for gas to get to work, that she didn't know how much longer she could keep her job.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:41 AM
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12. DING, DING, DING
we have a winner!

By the way, AFTER the depression, and it is coming, we will see a restructuring of the job market as well... and hopefully folks will not have to drive eighty miles both ways
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:44 AM
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13. Oh and this is a BAAADDDD sign... last time we
truly saw this was circa 1929

Hey fellow Cassandras, how do you feel about being vindicated by facts on the ground?

Me quite crappy actually.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:59 PM
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14. Kicking just because it is important and this is where our focus
need to be in the GE. Our economy is in shambles, regardless of what Wall Street mavens and the administration put out there. The GE will be about civil rights, the wars, and the economy (the Bush-McCain trifecta). The sooner we can get this show on the road the sooner we stand a chance to salvage the nation.
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