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Tue Jun-03-08 07:52 AM
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Why would Bob Beckel be spreading the Michelle Obama rumor on Fox and saying it is going to drop |
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tomorrow? He also said it would make Clinton the nominee, it is so big. What is he doing? Is he a Clinton shill? http://greenroom.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/06/03/beckels-obama-bombshell/
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Tue Jun-03-08 07:54 AM
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1. maybe he was with another prostitute |
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and the wingnuts are blackmailing him
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Tue Jun-03-08 07:55 AM
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2. they are trying with all of their might to freeze the superdelegates |
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Tue Jun-03-08 07:55 AM
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3. but I never thought he was a Clinton guy before today. Is he? nt |
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Tue Jun-03-08 07:58 AM
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9. he is a Foxnews democrat, like Ferraro and Estrich |
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struggling to maintain his relevance.
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:46 AM
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42. Well, he ran Mondale's 1984 Campaign. Take it from there. |
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Who friggin' knows what these guys will do to pay that Georgetown mortgage?
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Tue Jun-03-08 07:55 AM
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4. The "Whitey Tape" with co-star Farrakhan? |
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Tue Jun-03-08 07:56 AM
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5. Go suck an egg. Everyone knows Faux Ooze is a sack of bull hockey. |
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Tue Jun-03-08 07:56 AM
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6. Perhaps trying to freeze the super delegates? |
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Tue Jun-03-08 07:56 AM
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7. Is It Idle Or Idol Speculation? |
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Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 07:57 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
If there is explosive news we will hear about it in the fullness of time...
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Tue Jun-03-08 07:57 AM
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8. This is the guy who paid a 21 year-old hooker with a check, right? |
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Tue Jun-03-08 07:59 AM
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11. wasn't that Jerry Springer ? |
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or did Beckel do the same thing ?
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:02 AM
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15. I think Springer's hooker was slightly older. |
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Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 08:04 AM by VolcanoJen
Beckel's hooker was trying to extort him for more money, but he really did do the deed: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/beckel1.htmlHe wrote her some pretty large checks... maybe she was just watering his plants or something. :-)
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:08 AM
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19. interesting, it actually helped that he paid her with a check |
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to prove the extortion thing . what a loser though, bragging to some hookers he is paying 300 an hour for sex about what a big man he is in dc and how much money he has.
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:13 AM
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24. She's Actually Quite Attractive |
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She said that Beckel should give her a "sign" when he's on tv...
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Tue Jun-03-08 07:58 AM
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10. Why tomorrow? And unless there really is such a bombshell, what |
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Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 08:01 AM by Benhurst
possible purpose does it serve to build up such expectations? :shrug:
It's hard to imagine, even in the unlikely event there were such a revelation out there, it would automatically make Clinton the nominee. Wouldn't a brokered convention be more likely? If the Obama people threw their support to a third party (Gore, Edwards, X?) wouldn't the outcome be the end of Clinton's quest for the nomination as well?
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Tue Jun-03-08 07:59 AM
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12. don't know. Are you one of those who think Fox news is "Fair and Balanced"? |
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if so, that explains your question.
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:01 AM
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14. God no. Fox sucks. But my suprise was that Beckel a Democratic strategist is spreading this. nt |
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:00 AM
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13. I'll believe it when I see it. |
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Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 08:41 AM by ErinBerin84
If not, wouldn't be the first time someone on Fox lied.
upon reading what was written at the link (I cringed at going to the Fox website), he "heard it through the pipeline?" Some people say. I won't hold my breath. Again, if this turns up tomorrow, I'll talk about it then/
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:03 AM
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16. Isn't Beckel in the tank for Obama? |
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:09 AM
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20. He has been singing Obama's praises for 3 months |
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:13 AM
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25. He's touted Hillary on the ticket |
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Beckel has spent months defending both Obama and Clinton. I've certainly never heard or read anything by him bashing Clinton.
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:20 AM
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29. Then you missed him the other night |
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The gist was Clinton=bad Obama=good
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:23 AM
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31. You said he's been praising Obama for three months, though. |
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In the middle of May he wrote a pretty decent piece explaining why Hillary should be on the ticket, if it's something she wants.
For the record, I'm pretty sure he's a Fox News guy so of course I missed him the other night. :-)
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:31 AM
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36. Well, I don't watch Fox much but every time I have seen him |
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on the show, he has been praising Obama and that started about mid February.
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:10 AM
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21. He Plays It Pretty Square |
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But he is always defending Obama and (never) attacking him...
As I said, Sunday, this tape exists or it doesn't, and to talk about it as if it does is grossly unfair to Obama...
I don't think it exists...
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:21 AM
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30. I have no idea if there is a tape or not |
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If there is something like what is being described around the net, then the repuke slime machine will be working overtime in October
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:25 AM
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32. Remember all the rumors about Obama's "bitter" comments in San Fran... |
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... and how it was videotaped, and that video would be released any moment?
Funny because I don't remember ever seeing it... the only thing that ever emerged was sandbagging "citizen journalist" Mayhill Fowler's audiotape.
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:32 AM
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38. Well, there probably was a tape or video of some sort since |
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most of those events are taped but who knows who would have the copy.
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:07 AM
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18. Desperate Attempt to Freeze out the super Delegates |
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they don't want Obama to go over the top tonight. They need it to continue.
It's a forced power play in an attempt to be viable for Veep.
I think the Clinton campaign chances of being Veep would be better if she dropped out and endorsed. I think the Obama camapign is probably watching their actions right now more than anything to determine whether or not she would be a good Veep candidate. Her tenacious spirit for fighting the good fight stands well in her favor, but I think that Obama needs a good show of faith and support.
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:11 AM
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22. It's Fox News. 'Nuff said. |
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:11 AM
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23. 11th-hour scare tactics being applied to Super Delegates. |
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:15 AM
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26. Why is the Obama campaign spinning the transcript? |
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Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 08:17 AM by OzarkDem
I wasn't sure the rumor of the tape was real until I saw the spin that Obama supporters put on the "non-existent" transcript of it.
I'm still not certain it exists, but the Obama response seems strange.
From what I've read, it seems the GOP are the only ones who have the alleged tape and there's no way they're going to release it until after the DNC Convention if Obama gets the nom. They would use it to take him out after the chance has passed to replace him.
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:28 AM
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You're begging for this tape to be true. Anything, anywhere to make Hillary the President.
This crap is only going to last for one more week after tomorrow so enjoy it. After that, your ass will be booted off of here for spouting nonsense against Obama.
You can always head for Hillaryis44
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:33 AM
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39. But he was spinning it |
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It was on his web site and he made an issue out of it when no one knows if there even is a tape.
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:47 AM
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43. links or it didn't happen. |
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:58 AM
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45. You will have do a google search and possibly a Utube search |
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for the video on the spin that says the word is "why'd he and not whitey. Also type in Booman
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Tue Jun-03-08 09:05 AM
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Who's the "he" are you talking about? Booman or Barack?
Because, as far as I know, Barack has not posted anything about this.
HOWEVER, a user of the diary-based platform on mybarackobama.com has. But that's not a campaign source, that's just some schlub, likely one of us, from the intarwebs.
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Tue Jun-03-08 09:09 AM
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47. Supposedly the "he" is GWB |
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Isn't mybarackobama.com part of Obama's web site?
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Tue Jun-03-08 09:16 AM
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49. yes, but anyone can post anything there, including you, me, or G. Gordon Liddy |
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Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 09:17 AM by Teaser
just set up an account. It's like DKos.
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:16 AM
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27. Did anybody actually see him or do we have a rumor from FOX |
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Sorry, I do not watch Fox and certainly not at 6am.
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:18 AM
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28. He works for Fox News |
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:26 AM
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33. Go spread your shit over at the Freeperville. They love this garbage over their. Don't take your |
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trash and dump it hear at DU.
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:27 AM
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34. To keep the supers from endorsing today or tomorrow so they can say Obama is weak. |
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They want him to lose in NOV. This is all part of their game.
If they Clintons had this, they would have released it already.
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:31 AM
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37. To be fair, isn't the Vanity Fair article every bit as damaging to the Clinton campaign... |
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... if not more so, than this "alleged" video of Michelle Obama that has yet to surface?
:shrug:
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:35 AM
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40. That article has been pretty much debunked |
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as based on rumors. The writer had no credible sources, just pure speculation. Bill is no saint but I suspect that most of the article was bunk.
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:42 AM
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Media Matters jumped on it, mostly on the issue of unnamed sources, but it's only just getting out there and Purdum is standing by his story. The Clinton camp is of course peeved about it, but have yet to debunk the article based on the claims, instead they're just smearing Todd Purdum.
It's a very damaging article if we're talking about presidential spouses. Given Bill Clinton's history, it's difficult not to at least find Purdum's article plausible on its face. Far more damaging than the utter speculation of Bill and other women is the fact that it's well-known and non-debunkable that he runs around with Ron Burkle.
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:57 AM
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44. Most of the MSM pundits are calling |
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it for what it is.........the usual hit piece on the Clintons, all bunk and no substance but people believe what they want to. The Clintons are used to it and they are only hated in their own country. The rest of the world loves them. We have art clients from all over the planet and I get emails daily telling me how much the people of various countries love Bill and Hillary. One of my clients suggested that the only person that gets blammed for stuff more than Bill Clinton is God, so the man is in pretty good company.
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Tue Jun-03-08 09:13 AM
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48. Why would a "Democrat" be posting this crap on DU? |
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What is he/she doing? Is he/she a Republican shill?
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Tue Jun-03-08 09:18 AM
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50. Wasn't that supposed to be relased TODAY? 9 AM ? |
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Tue Jun-03-08 09:20 AM
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51. Internet posters do not speak for the Obama campaign. If bloggers are speculating... |
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about what could or could not be on a tape, it does not make the tape a reality. Do you really think that an unrelated blogger typing up his speculations somehow imputes Michelle Obama? That's crazy.
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Tue Jun-03-08 09:30 AM
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52. Any DEMOCRATIC spokesperson on Fox News is NOT a Democratic spokesperson |
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A Democrat does whore himself or herself to Fox News as a Contributor. The act of whoring oneself to Fox News is evidence that one is not a Democrat, a fortiori such person cannot be a Democratic spokesperson.
He's a jerk who has no stroke in the party in 2008. Like Susan Estrich, he's a hollow voice from bad times long ago.
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