Will Obama supporters freak out when HRC debt is paid?

[panhead1961]

The only reasons I could see why HRC stayed in the race so long were:

1. She is delusional and REALLY believed she was the candidate for the people.
2. She thought Obama would crash and burn and she could just waltz in.
3. She had to stay in the race to pay off her debt.

If the campaigns combine will Obama pay off her debt? Will the money we gave to Obama for his campaign somehow become tainted now that it is going to pay off HRC's debt? Personally I don't Care. That is a small price to pay to get Obama in the White House.

All of our children (they are all old enough to vote) are excited about politics for the first time. That is happening all over the country and that is what is going to win the presidential election.

Now it is time to Focus on the future, especially our children's and grandchildren's future. Bring the troops home. Get the pot smokers out of jail. Fix the electrical grid. Fix the roads and bridges. Take back our country.

[TornadoTN]

1. I won't be happy about it, but it's of little consequence

If it gets her out of the race and she actually works FOR him, then I won't have a problem with the money that I sent to his campaign being used to do so. Sure, it doesn't thrill me to know that my money will go towards these ends, but it does get us past this mess we are stuck in now.

However, if she and her husband don't work for the party and for Obama's election in the general, well - I won't be too pleased with any of them.

[Brundle_Fly]

46. LITTLE CONSEQUENCE !!!!111!!!

yeah its pretty minor. =)

[calmblueocean]

2. It's hard to see the money that poor folks scrimpted for pay off debts of one of the richest people

in America.

From what I understand, though, it was Obama's camp that offered this deal, not Hillary's camp that suggested it, so much of the blame for how insensitive this would look would be on their heads. I agree it's worth it if it ends the infighting.

[LaurenG]

3. Not me. I don't care if Obama pays it or not. That's life and it's only money.

I'm done caring about the stupid campaign debts. Lets get on with the "show" now.

[yellowwood]

4. I don't know about "freaking out."

But it would let me know that the Obama campaign doesn't need my money.

[CatnHat]

5. Don't bother

the crude remarks about the Clinton's. Don't the Obama supporters ever stop.

[high density]

6. No, it won't happen because Obama can't pay her debt under the law

It would violate the campaign contribution limits.

He could hold fund raisers for her or whatever, but he can't take money from his coffers and transfer it to Clinton.

[panhead1961]

18. What if she is on the ticket?

I thought it would be illegal also, but politics are pretty slimy

[RaleighNCDUer]

27. That will never happen. nt

[papau]

39. That would unify party and Obama fans prefer giving the finger to 50% of party

[iamthebandfanman]

53. nah, just 10%

you know, the dillusional say anything folks who claim they are democrats.

[marshall]

7. As long as it's only used to pay off the moms and pops and schools, etc.

I don't want to see it used to reimburse Hillary for the money she "loaned" herself. She can eat that debt and Bill can take on a few extra speaking gigs to make up the loss.

[NotThisTime]

16. exactly...

[madwivoter]

8. I don't think that can happen

I think the only thing Obama can do for her is to hold fundraisers, his campaign can't reconcile her debt straight up, campaign finance laws would effect that.

She can suspend her campaign and continue fundraising herself (which is what I think she will do).

[patrice]

9. I think it is a good idea. I sure would like to help write THAT contract! nt

[DS1]

10. I see it as a blatant shakedown of the new guy on the block

But, if he goes for it and gets some protection through the rest of the campaign, I suppose that's okay.

[Frustratedlady]

11. I thought it was in the rules of the party that one campaign could not pay

another campaign's debt? Am I wrong?

I believe it said that another campaigner could help by asking their supporters to donate to a campaigner who was in trouble, but not contribute funds that had been earmarked for their own campaign.

[IDemo]

22. Not party rules, but FEC rules:

A federal candidate's authorized committee(s) may contribute no more than $2,000 per election to another federal candidate's authorized committee(s).

http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/contriblimits.shtml

[Jazzgirl]

30. IDemo, I reposted what you said below.

Hope it's okay but I don't think people are reading. :-)

[IDemo]

33. It boosts GD-P popcorn sales to speculate on this topic

Which is why it gets posted again and again. ;)

[Jazzgirl]

49. LOL, okay....I'll make sure my head doesn't explode.

[BklynChick]

12. whatever it takes, i see it all as working towards the GE

[GalleryGod]

13. It's a political Fact of Life, Folks!

I don't like it...when a losing campaign (HRC's since March and the 11 losses in a row) goes "In the Red" to stay in the race, diminish the leader of the pack, has their fundraisers dessert them or become "tapped out" and thus The Party (remember US?) has to hold fundraisers to "retire the debt".

I think Patti Solis-Doyle, (she of the $95,000 on Deli platters for Iowa Caucus sites and free Hillary Helicopter rides) should pony-up the first $1,000.

EOM

[lojasmo]

14. She's loaded. She doesn't need the cash.

To hamstring Obama by forcing him to pay her for the good money she threw after bad is rediculous. I don't think he'll pay.

If he does, I won't care too much, though. I'll still contribute and volunteer.

[Kittycat]

15. I see it two ways...

I don't see why he should GIVE away donations, after she's run such a smearing & divisive campaign. However...

If it's done by him just sending out some letters, and making a couple appearances, I have no real issue. I just don't want him spending a lot of time actively soliciting on her behalf. He needs to build his own war chest now.

[WeDidIt]

17. Obama can chiip in a maximum of $2300

That's the law.

[IDemo]

24. $2000

The personal contribution limit was raised to $2300, but the limit from one campaign committee to another remained at $2000.

[WeDidIt]

26. Ahhh, I thought they raised that one, too

My bad.

[RaleighNCDUer]

32. Well, that's $6600 right there - that will help a lot.

2000 from the campaign, 2300 from him, and 2300 from Michelle.

I'm sure Hillary would appreciate it. That just leaves $10,993,400.00 to go.

[NoFederales]

19. Yup; no more funds until I'm assured by Obama's Campaign that

my donations don't help pay off HER DEBT (same for the DNC), and that she will NOT be his VP on the Democratic ticket. Shitty though that sounds, I have had it with the Clintons forevermore.

NoFederales

[TornadoTN]

31. I'm with you on that point - no more money until we get a clarification

My wife and I have been discussing this very point, and while neither of us would be happy if he did pay off her campaign debts, we would still support him.

That being said, we will not donate any more money to his campaign until we get a reasonable assertion that the money will not be spent on paying off her debt or her debt has been repaid and the money will go to the campaign fund. The most disgusting part is that a large portion will go to pay HERSELF back her own money she loaned the campaign!

As far as FEC laws go, it remains to be seen if there is a way around it regarding this issue.

[NoFederales]

38. I see a few posts that claim Obama CANNOT pay off her debt, but will a solicitation from Obama

explicitly state that your donated money is for the GE? I am willing to be exceedingly mulish and dense in this regard, and even moreso with respect to the VP selection. HRC is unacceptable to me as a politician, even moreso as VP on the ticket; several megatons of expletive would only serve to underscore my rejection of her as a politician.

NoFederales

[TornadoTN]

40. Generally, they have the disclaimers with the solicitiations

That state where the money is going and for what reasons. I got a donation solicitation from Obama a few weeks back that had it explained on the back of the sheet rather thoroughly. They don't break down the expenses specifically, line by line, but it does explain for what purposes the money can be used for. I don't recall anything about another candidates debt, which I believe is against the FEC, but who knows if that holds any water or if there are other avenues regarding this.

[NotThisTime]

47. But what about the good press for paying off the little guy, that buys good local press

And I'm not talking about that personal loan, too bad on that

[NoFederales]

50. This should not be about good press, it's about fiscal responsibility,

about paying your debts, intentional transactions/contracts that were made to further a personal cause. HRC is responsible for those debts, that's what I'm saying, and I really do not care if "it's done all the time..." as a disclaimer that one's debts can be turned over to another party.

If HRC is willing to do "run up the tab" and have a sugardaddy take care of it, what does that signify about fiscal responsibility, especially for a politician?

Fiscal Responsibility...it's not a new concept and it should not go unexercised.

NoFederales

[billyoc]

20. No, he'd just do a couple of fundraisers for her, it wouldn't be much.

He could easily fold that into his GE schedule.

[Window]

21. I don't care who pays her debt. Hell, I'd pay her debt if she'll just go... suspend and endures

Sen. Obama. Enough is enough.

[Ichingcarpenter]

23. Let's look at her Expenses as a Pie Chart

He can't use his money in his campaign to pay any of it
its against the law.

[LynneSin]

25. After this is all done - Obama needs Hillary. Nuff said

I'm still disappointed she kept this race going knowing that she was racking up massive debt.

[hokies4ever]

28. Obama can't legally pay her debt

He could hold joint fundraisers with her though, which is very likely.

[Jazzgirl]

29. IS anybody reading any of the comments

stating it is against FEC law for Obama's campaign to pay off her debt.

IDemo posted the below information upthread. It ain't possible!!!!


A federal candidate's authorized committee(s) may contribute no more than $2,000 per election to another federal candidate's authorized committee(s).


http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/contriblimits.shtml

[LaurenG]

35. Thanks for the link and heads up -up thread. nt

[panhead1961]

41. Thanks - I don't trust politics

[shadowknows69]

34. As longs as there's a "endorse and campaign for or shut up" clause

Then I'll contribute myself. What is politics but varying degrees of extortion anyway.

[BlooInBloo]

36. Nope. Every dollar Obama has spent, and all of his work for the last 6 months has been aimed...

at getting her out. I'm not gonna quibble about a little more work, if it facilitates her exit.

[Kokonoe]

37. I thought somebody could just donate 20 mil

To The Clinton Library or sum such. Didn't she just borrow the money from someone else ie. another pocket.

I know it would be illegal, and only repubs can do whatever they want.
Obama needs to be very careful about entangling finances with the Clintons.

[riverwalker]

42. VP would bother me more

I'd rather pay her off to get lost. VP would would tarnish the whole message.

[mod mom]

43. Per tax code it won't be money we donated so WHO CARES of some wealthy big wigs

want to pay off her debt. BTW won't this end any chance of a big run in the future for HRC?

[L0oniX]

44. Aw the poor millionair is in debt ....OMG ...what will she do?

:evilfrown:

[TexasObserver]

45. that's NOT how it will happen

There will be specific events designed to get contributions for her, and Obama will ask his supporters to help her retire her debt. At the same time, many of her maxed out supporters will max out with Obama, so both sides will benefit.

He is not going to use money already raised to retire her debt.

[Hepburn]

48. Frankly, whatever it takes to make her be quiet and go away...

...is fine with me.

[Crunchy Frog]

51. No. As long as it gets her off our party's back, I'm all for it.

Hell, I'll even throw a donation her way myself. What would make me freak is if she ends up as running mate.

[Independent-Voter]

52. I don't think it'll happen, but I'm withholding my $2,300 check for Obama's GE run till this gets

worked out. Already gave my max for the primary, but I'll not fund Veruca's inept, bitter, $ mismanaging ass.