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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:31 AM
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Hillary may get the VP spot. If Obama chooses her, I will respect it.

Obama is going to be the nominee. I know you don't like Hillary and the way she campaigned. Neither do I. However, her supporters are democrats, and we need our base united to win this thing in November.

So, please stop with the Hillary bashing. If Obama picks her as VP, respect it (I am not saying he will, however I am saying that a huge proportion of the American population is going to wonder why the hell the candidate who he only narrowly beat isn't on the ticket, if he doesn't choose her. Hillary is in a position to pretty much demand the Veep spot, if she wants it. Her campaign has continued to put her in the highest position of bargaining power. Obama may not have a choice but to take her on, it may be the only way she will throw her full support to his candidacy, and I know you hate it (so do I), he may very well need it to win. If he calculates it is a necessity, then we will have to deal with it. It is politics. It isn't a nice and clean game. It sucks but it is reality.

The most important thing right now is to focus on defeating McCain and put all our energy into the general.

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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:32 AM
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1. Ditto.........
Obama's call and I don't think he will go into VP selection uninformed..... I'll leave it up to his judgement.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:34 AM
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2. It IS his decision, but I would be dissapointed if he chose her
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:40 AM
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7. I feel the same way as you do...I think hillary would be a very bad
choice..and it would disappoint me...
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:35 AM
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16. Agreed.
It would suck the life out of my enthusiasm.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:39 AM
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18. Same here.
I would be crushed, actually. He doesn't need her to win; I'm so sick of hearing that.
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:34 AM
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3. i see the pros and cons
we'll see which outweighs the other

but i can deal with the ticket if he can
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CatnHat Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:35 AM
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4. As a Hillary
supporter. It would be a big mistake for Hillary to accept any deals from Obama and his camp.

I suspect her aspirations are focused more on the future of our country, say like 2012!
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:35 AM
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5. She will have to be shoved down his throat, unfortunately
But he and only he has a decision to make and I will respect his judgment.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:37 AM
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6. Hillary on the ticket is a deal breaker for me.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:42 AM
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8. Me too. There's a reason I chose one of these candidates over the other.
They are NOT interchangeble...

This is NOT mix and match.

One offers hope and change, the other offers fear and stagnation.

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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:46 AM
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9. Personally, I'd rather see her become the next Ted Kennedy in the Senate.
Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 10:46 AM by DinahMoeHum
I don't like the idea of her and her husband and their friends becoming back-seat drivers to Obama.

However, picking the VP is strictly Obama's decision. Whoever he picks, I will support both of them.

Because right now, getting a Democrat into the White House and adding to our leads in the House and Senate and state governments is far more important than having shit fits because 1) your favorite candidate wasn't elected or chosen or 2) the nominated candidates don't completely measure up to YOUR OWN standards.

:kick::kick:
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 10:49 AM
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10. I did not work my ass off for Obama just to have her on the ticket in the end.
No way.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:05 AM
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11. I would seriously have questions regarding Obama
I would view this as being extremely weak. Not at all what this country needs at this time.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:09 AM
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12. He loses credibility with me. It will show me that he is as spineless as most of the democratic
leadership.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:31 AM
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13. I have really ambivalent feelings about this.
One thing that you have to give her is that she certainly is tenacious. I got the following E-mail yesterday and it made me think of her:

WHO OWNS THE BACKYARD?

Vicki Huffman, in PLUS LIVING (Harold Shaw Publishers, 1989),
tells about a man who loved to hunt and bought two pedigreed
setters that he trained to be fine bird dogs. He kept them in a
large, fenced pen in his backyard.

One morning he observed a little bulldog trotting down the alley
behind his home. It saw the two dogs and squeezed under the
fence. The man thought he should perhaps lock up the setters so
they wouldn't hurt the little dog, but changed his mind. Maybe
they would "teach that bulldog a lesson," he reasoned.

As he predicted, fur began to fly, and all of it was bulldog fur.
The feisty intruder soon had enough and squeezed back under the
fence to get away.

To the man's surprise, the visitor returned again the next
morning. He crawled under the fence and once again took on the
tag-team of setters. And like the day before, he soon quit and
squeezed out of the pen.

The incident was repeated the following day, with the same
results.

The man left early the next morning on a business trip
and returned after several weeks. He asked his wife what finally
became of the bulldog.

"You won't believe it," she replied. "At the same time every day
that little dog came to the backyard and fought with our setters.
He never missed a day! It has come to the point now that when our
setters simply hear him snorting down the alley, they start
whining and run down into the basement. Then the little bulldog
struts around our backyard as if he owns it."

That bulldog inspires me when it comes to managing problems. Not that
think I have to fight and impose my will on whatever is in my way. But
I appreciate that little dog's perseverance. He persisted with his
problem until it disappeared.

Dale Carnegie made this observation: "Most of the important
things in the world have been accomplished by people who have
kept on trying when there seemed to be no hope at all." In the
end, it's the persistent bulldog that will own the backyard.

-- Steve Goodier



That bulldog made me think of Hillary Clinton. She's not going to let anyone steal this election away from us; I think that she'd fight to the death first.


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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:32 AM
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14. I will try to get the convention delegates to shitcan that idea
;-)
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:33 AM
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15. Ditto. Only VP pick that could be a dealbreaker for me would be a GOP anti-choicer like Hagel. nt
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WA98070 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:38 AM
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17. What change would this represent? Bill is an albatross.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 11:45 AM
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19. I can't believe those supporting Obama will abandon him

I am stunned that those who support him would abandon him, if he was forced to make this political calculus.

I don't want her either. But, I don't want McCain more.
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